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Apollo 13 - Midcourse Corrective Burn with LM Engine
Hi All!
I was hoping someone could clarify how the last burn worked using the LM to correct the trajectory for the entry corridor. Mind you, the question evolves from the Apollo 13 movie, which of course may be inaccurate on this event. a. When deciding on an attitude reference point for controlling the burn, a roll maneuver was made to put the earth in view for the COAS. It's a minor question here, but performing such a maneuver without planning it first seems odd. For in reading the flight journals, both the crew and MC would plan roll attitude adjustments quite carefully, i.e. PTC. Did the crews of Apollo roll at will? b. With the earth in the LM window, firing the LM would impart a +x vector (LM), almost 90 degrees out of plane with their trajectory. If this actually happened, then is it accurate to say that the burn was meant to correct their altitude, or H-dot? Regards, Richard Brideau |
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Apollo 13 - Midcourse Corrective Burn with LM Engine
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Richard Brideau wrote: I was hoping someone could clarify how the last burn worked using the LM to correct the trajectory for the entry corridor. Mind you, the question evolves from the Apollo 13 movie, which of course may be inaccurate on this event. In general, the movie should not be taken as gospel. It gets the spirit right, but plays fast and loose with the facts now and then, to simplify complex situations and keep things exciting. -- MOST launched 1015 EDT 30 June, separated 1046, | Henry Spencer first ground-station pass 1651, all nominal! | |
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Apollo 13 - Midcourse Corrective Burn with LM Engine
Jack Crenshaw wrote in message ...
Gene Kranz said that he was shooting for a splashdown in the ocean, and he didn't much care which one, and that was exactly the right attitude at that point. Interesting –what were the factors that made them unable to pick? Was there not enough time for MC to work the precision, given the awkward configuration of the spacecraft (Having the LM attached & using the LM decent engine). Was the crew too constrained on time to perform an alignment? Finally, to correct one last point: I'm about 99.44% sure that the window Lovell was lining up the earth in was the _SIDE_ window of the LM, not the front one. The front one wouldn't make any sense. Again, you want to align the vehicle so that the thrust axis is perpendicular to the radius vector. In simple terms, that means "look out the side window and keep the earth in the center of it." I find something here that is questionable with Doug's response, and yet still unresolved with yours as well. Wouldn't a burn from the LM, perpendicular to the radial vector allow the crew to set the spacecrafts attitude to use the LMP window, and utilize the COAS? It seems to me it would; perhaps I'm misunderstanding the orientation of the radial vector. Richard |
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Apollo 13 - Midcourse Corrective Burn with LM Engine
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Brideau wrote: Jack Crenshaw wrote in message ... Gene Kranz said that he was shooting for a splashdown in the ocean, and he didn't much care which one, and that was exactly the right attitude at that point. Interesting –what were the factors that made them unable to pick? Was there not enough time for MC to work the precision, given the awkward configuration of the spacecraft (Having the LM attached & using the LM decent engine). Was the crew too constrained on time to perform an alignment? (disclaimer - I am not now, nor have I ever been, Gene Kranz) I don't think it was so much "unable to pick" as taking the attitude that, if your Cunning Plan brought them back safely to the South Pacific, then go with it - you could worry about getting them *out* of the South Pacific later. Let's face it, it's not as if they wouldn't be able to mobilise half of most navies by getting Nixon to make some phone calls :-) MCC could manage with sufficient precision - indeed, we've already seen just how good that precision was - but there was no sense, in those first hours/days, of worrying about something that came right at the end until you got there. -- -Andrew Gray |
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Apollo 13 - Midcourse Corrective Burn with LM Engine
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says... Jack Crenshaw wrote in message ... Gene Kranz said that he was shooting for a splashdown in the ocean, and he didn't much care which one, and that was exactly the right attitude at that point. Interesting –what were the factors that made them unable to pick? Was there not enough time for MC to work the precision, given the awkward configuration of the spacecraft (Having the LM attached & using the LM decent engine). Was the crew too constrained on time to perform an alignment? Finally, to correct one last point: I'm about 99.44% sure that the window Lovell was lining up the earth in was the _SIDE_ window of the LM, not the front one. The front one wouldn't make any sense. Again, you want to align the vehicle so that the thrust axis is perpendicular to the radius vector. In simple terms, that means "look out the side window and keep the earth in the center of it." I find something here that is questionable with Doug's response, and yet still unresolved with yours as well. Wouldn't a burn from the LM, perpendicular to the radial vector allow the crew to set the spacecrafts attitude to use the LMP window, and utilize the COAS? It seems to me it would; perhaps I'm misunderstanding the orientation of the radial vector. The LM didn't really have a side window. It had two windows that pointed forward and angled down, and a top window that pointed directly up, along the plus-X axis. Remember, the axis references changed between the LM and the CSM. If you point the thrust axis of the LM perpendicular to the trajectory of the stack, you *can* easily have the LM windows pointed directly forward, at the earth. Because the LM front windows point out along the LM's plus-Z axis (IIRC). -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for | Doug Van Dorn thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup | |
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