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Old March 21st 07, 01:27 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Pat Flannery
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Well, if nothing else, it's showing the on-time launch reliability
demonstrated by the Shuttle in a privately funded booster.
I still don't think that pre-launch test firing of a engine with an
ablative combustion chamber lining is a good idea.

Pat
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Old March 21st 07, 12:38 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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In article ,
Pat Flannery wrote:

Well, if nothing else, it's showing the on-time launch reliability
demonstrated by the Shuttle in a privately funded booster.


To be fair, they said right up front that multiple aborts were likely,
given the extremely numerous (and probably erring on the side of
paranoid) safety checks added since last year. It's not surprising if
it takes a few tries to shake out all the unintended consequences.

I still don't think that pre-launch test firing of a engine with an
ablative combustion chamber lining is a good idea.


I can see your point. But presumably you know how much it's going to
ablate in the test, and how much you safely need for the real launch,
right?

Best,
- Joe
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Old March 21st 07, 02:47 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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On Mar 20, 8:38 pm, Joe Strout wrote:
Pat Flannery wrote:
Well, if nothing else, it's showing the on-time launch reliability
demonstrated by the Shuttle in a privately funded booster.


To be fair, they said right up front that multiple aborts were likely,
given the extremely numerous (and probably erring on the side of
paranoid) safety checks added since last year.


To be fair, "numerous safety checks" and "probably erring on the side
of paranoid" are precisely the reason that the shuttle launches get
pushed back.

If you are going to be cautious, sometimes you will stop a launch.

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Old March 21st 07, 03:38 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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Did anyone else get creeped out by the sight of the second stage nozzle
glowing orange hot? Yeesh! I hope they remembered that it gets less
cooling in vacuum (that is, in use) than in air (during tests).
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Old March 22nd 07, 11:56 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Rusty
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On Mar 20, 8:38 pm, richard schumacher wrote:
Did anyone else get creeped out by the sight of the second stage nozzle
glowing orange hot? Yeesh! I hope they remembered that it gets less
cooling in vacuum (that is, in use) than in air (during tests).



If the Krell technology had made it white hot, Dr. Morbius was going
to blame the Id.

;-)

Rusty

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Old March 25th 07, 05:16 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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In article ,
richard schumacher wrote:
Did anyone else get creeped out by the sight of the second stage nozzle
glowing orange hot? Yeesh! I hope they remembered that it gets less
cooling in vacuum (that is, in use) than in air (during tests).


Radiation-cooled nozzles often glow quite impressively. The first-stage
nozzles on the old Arianes glowed from takeoff on.
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Old March 26th 07, 04:14 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Pat Flannery
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Henry Spencer wrote:
Radiation-cooled nozzles often glow quite impressively. The first-stage
nozzles on the old Arianes glowed from takeoff on.


They had a beautiful in-flight photo of that taken from one of the
boosters in AW&ST back when Ariane was new.

Pat
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Old March 21st 07, 07:26 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Pat Flannery
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Joe Strout wrote:

To be fair, they said right up front that multiple aborts were likely,
given the extremely numerous (and probably erring on the side of
paranoid) safety checks added since last year. It's not surprising if
it takes a few tries to shake out all the unintended consequences.


Well, whether the satellite went into orbit or not, they did get the
thing into space... and had a successful first-stage burn, which is more
than the Soviet N1 ever did, and I applaud them for that.

Pat

 




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