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Mental Patient Cavedon #755 "mpc755" wrote: Cavedon, NOT "hanson" wrote: ===== Aether is defined as E=mc^2. ====== hanson wrote: ahahahaha.. Cavy, have you lost your memory now and you forgot that it was you, Cavedon, who posted: ||| Cavedon said: "Aether is defined as E=mc^2". So, Cavy, either your mental problems are worse then I suspected, or you are a devious mother ****er, knowing that you were talking ****, and now you try to place your own turds onto someone else... ahahahahaha....That will work as little as your idiotic claim works, when you ||| Cavedon said: "Aether is defined as E=mc^2". Now, Cavy, since Marvin & Paul Draper have whupped your fat ass with due diligence & proper vengeance, & your only supporter seems to be kike Jacob Navia, who is so stupid that he accusd Porat, the Israeli Zionist, to be "Anti-Semitic".... http://tinyurl.com/The-HW-Rosenthal-interview-XT Cavy, let me guide you back onto the path of righteousness again, & forgive you that you tried to be an intellectual whore. In all likelihood, when you wrote in your preceding post: "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." [ = E/c^2 in modern denotation] you had in your mind the vision and speculation that in Step 1: Matter converts to Energy as per E = mc^2... & Step 2: (the Cavy step): that the gained Energy of step 1 then converts, per Cavy, into Aether per: A = E*c^2... or "displaces it"... Is that what you are trying to say, Cavy, but you just haven't found the right words for it so far? |
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'Ether and the Theory of Relativity - Albert Einstein'
http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html "Since according to our present conceptions the elementary particles of matter are also, in their essence, nothing else than condensations of the electromagnetic field" The electromagnetic field is a state of aether. Matter is condensations of aether. DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' A. EINSTEIN http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish; however, the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether. Matter evaporates into aether. As matter converts to aether it expands in three dimensional space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring aether and matter is energy. Mass is conserved. Energy is conserved. A change in state of that which has mass is energy. When you watch a video of an atomic bomb explosion you are witnessing the physical effects matter converting to aether has on the neighboring matter and aether. The physical effects are energy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_oueK1OQYA Aether is the base material of matter. Aether is the base material, period. Einstein's definition of motion as applied to the ether is defined throughout the following article as the ether does not consist of individual particles which can be separately tracked through time. This can be interpret to mean it can not be known if ether consists of particles or not. 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity - Albert Einstein' http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html "if, in fact nothing else whatever were observable than the shape of the space occupied by the water as it varies in time, we should have no ground for the assumption that water consists of movable particles. But all the same we could characterise it as a medium." "There may be supposed to be extended physical objects to which the idea of motion cannot be applied. They may not be thought of as consisting of particles which allow themselves to be separately tracked through time." "The special theory of relativity forbids us to assume the ether to consist of particles observable through time, but the hypothesis of ether in itself is not in conflict with the special theory of relativity." "According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable;...But this ether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time. The idea of motion may not be applied to it." Since aether is the base material and it can not be known if aether consists of particles or not, there isn't anything aether is made of besides aether itself. What is presently postulated as non-baryonic dark matter is aether. Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter. Force exerted toward matter by aether displaced by matter is gravity. A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. Curved spacetime is displaced aether. |
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"Byron Forbes" wrote in message
... But no matter - we simply make it the oscillation of an atom, spring, whatever. . TD is still flushed. Why do you think relativistic Doppler effect means relativistic time dilation is wrong .. when both are predicted by SR? You clearly cannot think .. did you have problems with putting Lego blocks together as a child? |
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Am 04.09.2011 19:37, schrieb Brad Guth:
On Sep 3, 6:09 pm, Thomas wrote: Am 03.09.2011 18:38, schrieb GSS: Occasional dissidents come with own ideas, but get no audience. Why? Well, who wanted to listen? The mainstream 'high-priests' do not want and do not need and their staff is carefully selected for 'flexibility' (smart, corrupt, brainwashed). Those do not dare to listen and endlessly reject every dissident word. TH The mainstream status-quo specifically trains and hires FUD-masters, and otherwise has an unlimited devout army of mostly public funded brown-nosed clowns that always claim being Atheist that only happen to act/react exactly like Zionists/Jews, and otherwise they always claim being politically independent when in fact they strictly follow the money that has the fewest strings attached. Therefore publishing whatever as offering any better interpretation or that of a new or improved deductive formulated theory, simply doesn't get noticed. Outsiders are also systematically banished and/or excluded (aka blackballed), as well as the mainstream goes out of its way in order to discredit any possible threat to their mainstream status-quo. Mafia, Hitler and Jesus/Semite freaks pretty much have to function as a borg collective, because they each have little if anything else to work with. Science is important and should not be subject to political cabal. If these people exist and somehow act like you say, than they do greater harm to people than wars! Science is what develops all these little goodies, from pharmacy to cell phones. If any of these sciences is derailed for unethical reasons, than these developments are not beneficial any more or do not happen at all. so people don't get cured, because these cures were not developed. Possible machines are still unknown, because somebody does not want them. Personally I think, the so called 'Growing Earth' theory is correct. Only - this subject seem to be buried very deep and nobody is allowed to discuss it. But it is by no means justified to silence the outsiders, because the subject seems to be important and has far reaching implications. The method is to reject, insist on unplausible alternative models, ignore evidence, deny critique, silence dissidents. Even physical violence against critics seems possible, or application of secret operations to discredit unwanted persons. All this comes at a price: this is the loss of new ideas and developments, because the unwanted thinkers than had to think about how to escape from their 'Gulag' (prison, mental hospital, army unit, debt, marriage, bread job ...) and not about new little goodies. TH |
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On Sep 4, 7:52*pm, "Y.Porat" wrote:
On Sep 3, 6:38*pm, GSS wrote: Agreed that grasping the intricacies of physical phenomena and developing theories thereof, is a slow and tedious process which forms an integral part of our evolution. But why mistaken beliefs, erroneous assumptions and wrong theories go undetected, uncorrected for hundreds of years even in the modern age of instant communications? Why the collective wisdom of millions of scientists in the 'Mainstream Scientific Establishment' cannot detect, check or correct the follies of a few individuals for hundreds of years? The case in point is the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein. Precious human and material resources are being wasted in sustaining the mistaken beliefs in 'length contraction', 'time dilation', 'spacetime curvature' and fictitious 'Inertial Reference Frames in relative motion'. Recently Pentcho Valev had quoted some excerpts from an article, "Einstein's sceptics: Who were the relativity deniers?" in New Scientist, 18 November 2010 by Milena Wazeck. [Yet what flourishes today on the fringes of the internet was much more prominent in the 1920s, in the activities of a movement that included physics professors and even Nobel laureates. Who were Einstein's opponents? (...) Gehrcke was an experimental physicist at the Imperial Technical Institute in Berlin. Like many experimentalists of that era, he felt uncomfortable with the rise of a theory that demanded a reformulation of the fundamental concepts of space and time. In 1921 he argued that giving up the idea of absolute time threatened to confuse the basis of cause and effect in natural phenomena. (...) Another motivation was more noble. Einstein's opponents were seriously concerned about the future of science. They did not simply disagree with the theory of general relativity; they opposed the new foundations of physics altogether. The increasing role played by advanced mathematics seemed to disconnect physics from reality. "Mathematics is the science of the imaginable, but natural science is the science of the real," Gehrcke stated in 1921. Engineer Eyvind Heidenreich, who found relativity incomprehensible, went further: "This is not science. On the contrary, it is a new brand of metaphysics." (...) By the mid-1920s Einstein's opponents were facing overwhelming resistance, and most refrained from taking a public stance against the theory of relativity. Many of them simply gave up, and the Academy of Nations ceased to serve as the central organisation campaigning against Einstein, though it lingered on until the early 1930s. But the anti-relativists did not revise their opinion. In 1951, Gehrcke was still writing letters about the fight against relativity. "The day will come where everything about this theory will be abandoned by the world at large, but when will this be?" he asked. The debate about relativity lingers on today. Though the new generation of Einstein's opponents have mostly moved their protests online, they share some fundamental characteristics with their predecessors.] It is not a normal phenomenon that mistaken beliefs, erroneous assumptions and wrong theories could go undetected, uncorrected for hundreds of years, in spite of the relentless efforts of many intellectuals. It points to a serious malady in the body of 'Mainstream Scientific Establishment'. In my opinion, following factors have contributed to the growth of this malady. (a) Growing *complexity of mathematical models developed to represent physical reality, often obscure the physical reality to such an extent that the difference between the two is lost in wilderness. (b) It is generally believed that a physical theory can only be invalidated through the results of practical experiments, but the founding assumptions of the theory are rarely examined or tested in depth. (c) Often particular interpretations of observations made during practical experiments are announced as results of those experiments. (d) With the advent of specialization and super-specialization, the expertise in different fields of science has got compartmentalized to such an extent that no body expects an 'outsider' to check or correct any erroneous assumptions made in a specialized field of research. (e) All established systems of training new scientists, invariably contain an implicit component of 'indoctrination' that encourages maintenance of status quo and discourages questioning of the established beliefs and dogmas. However, it still remains an enigma as to how the mistaken beliefs, erroneous assumptions and wrong theories could go undetected, uncorrected for hundreds of years, in spite of the relentless efforts of many intellectuals? Learned readers are requested to share their views on this issue. Further, kindly refer to my following two papers published in a mainstream international journal of physics, which clearly establish that the theory of Relativity is founded on erroneous assumptions and sustained by mistaken beliefs. 1. *Proposed experiment for detection of absolute motion Abstract: According to special theory of relativity, all motion is relative and existence of any privileged or absolute inertial frame of reference, which could be practically distinguished from all other inertial frames, is ruled out. However, we may define an absolute or universal reference frame as the one which is at rest with respect to the center of mass of the universe and assume the speed c of propagation of light to be an isotropic universal constant in that frame. Any motion with respect to such a reference frame will be called "absolute motion." The proposed experiment establishes the feasibility of detection of such an absolute motion by measuring the up-link and down-link signal propagation times between two fixed points on the surface of earth. With current technological advancements in pulsed lasers, detectors, precision atomic clocks, and computers, feasibility of the proposed experiment has been confirmed. Successful conduct of the proposed experiment will initiate a paradigm shift in fundamental physics. This paper demonstrates that the second postulate of SR is wrong, and that the Newtonian notions of absolute space and time are correct. It describes a simple doable experiment to confirm the same.https://sites.google.com/a/fundament.../Home/book_fil... 2. *Demystification of the spacetime model of relativity Abstract: The geometrical interpretation of gravitation in general theory of relativity imparts certain mystical properties to the spacetime continuum. The mystic connotations associated with this spacetime model may be attributed to the fallacious depiction of spacetime as a physical entity. This paper proves that the spacetime continuum in general relativity is a simple mathematical model and not a physical entity. This paper establishes the fact that GR is founded on the mistaken belief that the spacetime is a physical entity which can even get "curved". It has been clearly demonstrated that spacetime is not a physical entity but just a mathematical 4D 'graphical' template used to compute gravitational trajectories of particles as geodesic curves. The so called "curvature" of spacetime is an utterly misleading 'misnomer' which just represents a non-zero value of the Riemann tensor composed from the scaling factors of different axes of the 'graphical' template.https://sites.google.com/a/fundament.../Home/book_fil... GSShttp://book.fundamentalphysics.info/ ------------------------- you ddint innovate much: manythings you said above were climes before you evn by me Y.Porat for instance i said *it much *shorter and bluntly for *instance: ''one of the *greatest *disasyers that happened to 'modern physics was that dunb mathematicians *that understand only mathematics took over physics !! physics is far of being only mathematics moreover *only current amthematics can cope only very little with real physics problems just a few days ago i published here a short article called: 'not all particles can be defined by mathematical formula '' and i am in middle of explaing it i claomed long ago that CURVED SPACE TIME IS A HUGE *WAIST *OF HUMAN RESOURCES ! SPACE IS NOTHING AND HAVE NO PROPERTIES EXCEPT HOSTING MASS !! insteadof that i suggested the CIRCLON abery basic particle that moves naturally in curved paths not because something is forcing it but that is as 'it was born *(a new basic *paradigm that has to repalce curved space 2 i claimes the first time in history of physics that NO MASS - THE ONLY MASS- NO REAL * PHYSICS !! that is aborting immediately the W of Z particles the only 3 or 4 Quarks *with 90 percent mass as builders of the Proton *(Neutron ) i found and proved that the photon has nonzero mass (about exp-90 * Kilograms) 2 yet you have to be selective SR *(unlike GR !!) is right *!!! it is based on the fact that as velocity becomes bigger and bigger it becomes more difficult to *add more velocity !! TIME is not absolute: you *have no time without movement !! so time is nothing but relative comparison of motion realtive to some CHOSEN MOTION REFERENCE * * * * 11 iow there is no 'absolute time !!! and by that Einstein *is right including all that is acociated with movement !!! 3 i developed a new model of the Atom and nucleus much of it cannot be described and defined only by * only current *mathematics !!! copyrights of Y.Porat ---------------------- so ''the devil is in the details and you cant say that all modrn physics is wrong !!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The judgement that Einstein was wrong is where science went wrong. He ends up being right. Einstein's opponents will be seen to be wrong. |
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On Sep 5, 10:32*pm, "
wrote: On Sep 4, 7:52*pm, "Y.Porat" wrote: On Sep 3, 6:38*pm, GSS wrote: Agreed that grasping the intricacies of physical phenomena and developing theories thereof, is a slow and tedious process which forms an integral part of our evolution. But why mistaken beliefs, erroneous assumptions and wrong theories go undetected, uncorrected for hundreds of years even in the modern age of instant communications? Why the collective wisdom of millions of scientists in the 'Mainstream Scientific Establishment' cannot detect, check or correct the follies of a few individuals for hundreds of years? The case in point is the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein. Precious human and material resources are being wasted in sustaining the mistaken beliefs in 'length contraction', 'time dilation', 'spacetime curvature' and fictitious 'Inertial Reference Frames in relative motion'. Recently Pentcho Valev had quoted some excerpts from an article, "Einstein's sceptics: Who were the relativity deniers?" in New Scientist, 18 November 2010 by Milena Wazeck. [Yet what flourishes today on the fringes of the internet was much more prominent in the 1920s, in the activities of a movement that included physics professors and even Nobel laureates. Who were Einstein's opponents? (...) Gehrcke was an experimental physicist at the Imperial Technical Institute in Berlin. Like many experimentalists of that era, he felt uncomfortable with the rise of a theory that demanded a reformulation of the fundamental concepts of space and time. In 1921 he argued that giving up the idea of absolute time threatened to confuse the basis of cause and effect in natural phenomena. (...) Another motivation was more noble. Einstein's opponents were seriously concerned about the future of science. They did not simply disagree with the theory of general relativity; they opposed the new foundations of physics altogether. The increasing role played by advanced mathematics seemed to disconnect physics from reality. "Mathematics is the science of the imaginable, but natural science is the science of the real," Gehrcke stated in 1921. Engineer Eyvind Heidenreich, who found relativity incomprehensible, went further: "This is not science. On the contrary, it is a new brand of metaphysics." (...) By the mid-1920s Einstein's opponents were facing overwhelming resistance, and most refrained from taking a public stance against the theory of relativity. Many of them simply gave up, and the Academy of Nations ceased to serve as the central organisation campaigning against Einstein, though it lingered on until the early 1930s. But the anti-relativists did not revise their opinion. In 1951, Gehrcke was still writing letters about the fight against relativity. "The day will come where everything about this theory will be abandoned by the world at large, but when will this be?" he asked. The debate about relativity lingers on today. Though the new generation of Einstein's opponents have mostly moved their protests online, they share some fundamental characteristics with their predecessors.] It is not a normal phenomenon that mistaken beliefs, erroneous assumptions and wrong theories could go undetected, uncorrected for hundreds of years, in spite of the relentless efforts of many intellectuals. It points to a serious malady in the body of 'Mainstream Scientific Establishment'. In my opinion, following factors have contributed to the growth of this malady. (a) Growing *complexity of mathematical models developed to represent physical reality, often obscure the physical reality to such an extent that the difference between the two is lost in wilderness. (b) It is generally believed that a physical theory can only be invalidated through the results of practical experiments, but the founding assumptions of the theory are rarely examined or tested in depth. (c) Often particular interpretations of observations made during practical experiments are announced as results of those experiments. (d) With the advent of specialization and super-specialization, the expertise in different fields of science has got compartmentalized to such an extent that no body expects an 'outsider' to check or correct any erroneous assumptions made in a specialized field of research. (e) All established systems of training new scientists, invariably contain an implicit component of 'indoctrination' that encourages maintenance of status quo and discourages questioning of the established beliefs and dogmas. However, it still remains an enigma as to how the mistaken beliefs, erroneous assumptions and wrong theories could go undetected, uncorrected for hundreds of years, in spite of the relentless efforts of many intellectuals? Learned readers are requested to share their views on this issue. Further, kindly refer to my following two papers published in a mainstream international journal of physics, which clearly establish that the theory of Relativity is founded on erroneous assumptions and sustained by mistaken beliefs. 1. *Proposed experiment for detection of absolute motion Abstract: According to special theory of relativity, all motion is relative and existence of any privileged or absolute inertial frame of reference, which could be practically distinguished from all other inertial frames, is ruled out. However, we may define an absolute or universal reference frame as the one which is at rest with respect to the center of mass of the universe and assume the speed c of propagation of light to be an isotropic universal constant in that frame. Any motion with respect to such a reference frame will be called "absolute motion." The proposed experiment establishes the feasibility of detection of such an absolute motion by measuring the up-link and down-link signal propagation times between two fixed points on the surface of earth. With current technological advancements in pulsed lasers, detectors, precision atomic clocks, and computers, feasibility of the proposed experiment has been confirmed. Successful conduct of the proposed experiment will initiate a paradigm shift in fundamental physics. This paper demonstrates that the second postulate of SR is wrong, and that the Newtonian notions of absolute space and time are correct. It describes a simple doable experiment to confirm the same.https://sites.google.com/a/fundament.../Home/book_fil... 2. *Demystification of the spacetime model of relativity Abstract: The geometrical interpretation of gravitation in general theory of relativity imparts certain mystical properties to the spacetime continuum. The mystic connotations associated with this spacetime model may be attributed to the fallacious depiction of spacetime as a physical entity. This paper proves that the spacetime continuum in general relativity is a simple mathematical model and not a physical entity. This paper establishes the fact that GR is founded on the mistaken belief that the spacetime is a physical entity which can even get "curved". It has been clearly demonstrated that spacetime is not a physical entity but just a mathematical 4D 'graphical' template used to compute gravitational trajectories of particles as geodesic curves.. The so called "curvature" of spacetime is an utterly misleading 'misnomer' which just represents a non-zero value of the Riemann tensor composed from the scaling factors of different axes of the 'graphical' template.https://sites.google.com/a/fundament.../Home/book_fil... GSShttp://book.fundamentalphysics.info/ ------------------------- you ddint innovate much: manythings you said above were climes before you evn by me Y.Porat for instance i said *it much *shorter and bluntly for *instance: ''one of the *greatest *disasyers that happened to 'modern physics was that dunb mathematicians *that understand only mathematics took over physics !! physics is far of being only mathematics moreover *only current amthematics can cope only very little with real physics problems just a few days ago i published here a short article called: 'not all particles can be defined by mathematical formula '' and i am in middle of explaing it i claomed long ago that CURVED SPACE TIME IS A HUGE *WAIST *OF HUMAN RESOURCES ! SPACE IS NOTHING AND HAVE NO PROPERTIES EXCEPT HOSTING MASS !! insteadof that i suggested the CIRCLON abery basic particle that moves naturally in curved paths not because something is forcing it but that is as 'it was born *(a new basic *paradigm that has to repalce curved space 2 i claimes the first time in history of physics that NO MASS - THE ONLY MASS- NO REAL * PHYSICS !! that is aborting immediately the W of Z particles the only 3 or 4 Quarks *with 90 percent mass as builders of the Proton *(Neutron ) i found and proved that the photon has nonzero mass (about exp-90 * Kilograms) 2 yet you have to be selective SR *(unlike GR !!) is right *!!! it is based on the fact that as velocity becomes bigger and bigger it becomes more difficult to *add more velocity !! TIME is not absolute: you *have no time without movement !! so time is nothing but relative comparison of motion realtive to some CHOSEN MOTION REFERENCE * * * * 11 iow there is no 'absolute time !!! and by that Einstein *is right including all that is acociated with movement !!! 3 i developed a new model of the Atom and nucleus much of it cannot be described and defined only by * only current *mathematics !!! copyrights of Y.Porat ---------------------- so ''the devil is in the details and you cant say that all modrn physics is wrong !!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The judgement that Einstein was wrong is where science went wrong. He ends up being right. Einstein's opponents will be seen to be wrong. -------------- he was right about SR (E=m c^2 etc ) yet he was not right about curved space time!! sapce is nothing and has no properties except hosing mass see the ''Circlon' idea that has to come instead ATB Y.Porat -------------------------- |
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