Sameness of Science and Religion

A singularity is also found in Mathematics, particularly in the study of
rational functions. It is a point at which the function is undefined.

Neal

"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message
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Our thoughts are words,and most of our thoughts come from the words of
great thinkers Lets start with the word "singularity" In science
it is the birth place(seed ) of the universe. Next word that comes into
my mind is "infinity" Infinity could be a totally imaginary word,and
might only exist in our minds. That means although we use it so much in
thinking about our universe,it could very well have no reality in
describing the universe. How does God bring in infinity? The bible
tells us in believing in God you will have ever lasting life. Lots
more sameness comes into my mind,but I would rather hear your thoughts
on this. Best to keep in mind the "G" in my equation could stand for
"God" or "gravity" and there could be a strange and almost complete
sameness in that equation. Bert PS The bible uses singularity by
saying"There is only one God (almost forgot to mention that)

Neal I'm going with the singularity that is at the core of a BH. A
point where spacetime,and energy began. Bert

Neal I'm going with the singularity that is at the core of a BH. A
point where spacetime,and energy began. Bert

G=EMC^2 Glazier ) wrote...
Bert PS The bible uses singularity by
saying"There is only one God (almost forgot to mention that)



Unless you bring up the doctine of the Trinity. Which would open up a
whole new can of worms :-)

-Chris Swartz

G=EMC^2 Glazier ) wrote...
Bert PS The bible uses singularity by
saying"There is only one God (almost forgot to mention that)



Unless you bring up the doctine of the Trinity. Which would open up a
whole new can of worms :-)

-Chris Swartz

"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message...
...

Our thoughts are words,and most of our thoughts come from the words of
great thinkers Lets start with the word "singularity" In science
it is the birth place(seed ) of the universe. Next word that comes into
my mind is "infinity" Infinity could be a totally imaginary word,and
might only exist in our minds. That means although we use it so much in
thinking about our universe,it could very well have no reality in
describing the universe. How does God bring in infinity? The bible
tells us in believing in God you will have ever lasting life. Lots
more sameness comes into my mind,but I would rather hear your thoughts
on this. Best to keep in mind the "G" in my equation could stand for
"God" or "gravity" and there could be a strange and almost complete
sameness in that equation. Bert PS The bible uses singularity by
saying"There is only one God (almost forgot to mention that)

We look for similarity in many things, however there is
little similarity between science and religion. And in fact
there is one most startling difference!...

In order for science to truly work, it must remain open to
new observations that may refine/refute accepted ideas.

And in order for religion to truly work, it must remain
closed, or at the very least, highly resistant, to anything
that would upset the tenets handed down from generation
to generation.

There is another difference i just thought of. When i
traveled to other countries, my hosts were adamant about
taboo subjects, i.e., subjects i should not discuss with the
local inhabitants. There were four of these no-no areas,
and they were...

race
politics
sex
religion

We can note that science is not on this list. Where things
like religion tend to SEPARATE people and can lead to
many nasty results, science has a tendency to rise above
political, religious and other boundaries and to bring
people together.

We may see a few similarities between science and
religion in a very general sense; however, a sameness
about them? When it comes to people and the effects
that science and religion can have on them, science
and religion are as different as day and night!

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Our heads up in the sky,
We're so clueless of our worth...
Whose sky no longer shines
As we lose our Mother-Earth?

As people we must learn
About the care of planet parts,
To leave the world a better turn--
Empower brand new hearts!

Paine Ellsworth

"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message...
...

Our thoughts are words,and most of our thoughts come from the words of
great thinkers Lets start with the word "singularity" In science
it is the birth place(seed ) of the universe. Next word that comes into
my mind is "infinity" Infinity could be a totally imaginary word,and
might only exist in our minds. That means although we use it so much in
thinking about our universe,it could very well have no reality in
describing the universe. How does God bring in infinity? The bible
tells us in believing in God you will have ever lasting life. Lots
more sameness comes into my mind,but I would rather hear your thoughts
on this. Best to keep in mind the "G" in my equation could stand for
"God" or "gravity" and there could be a strange and almost complete
sameness in that equation. Bert PS The bible uses singularity by
saying"There is only one God (almost forgot to mention that)

We look for similarity in many things, however there is
little similarity between science and religion. And in fact
there is one most startling difference!...

In order for science to truly work, it must remain open to
new observations that may refine/refute accepted ideas.

And in order for religion to truly work, it must remain
closed, or at the very least, highly resistant, to anything
that would upset the tenets handed down from generation
to generation.

There is another difference i just thought of. When i
traveled to other countries, my hosts were adamant about
taboo subjects, i.e., subjects i should not discuss with the
local inhabitants. There were four of these no-no areas,
and they were...

race
politics
sex
religion

We can note that science is not on this list. Where things
like religion tend to SEPARATE people and can lead to
many nasty results, science has a tendency to rise above
political, religious and other boundaries and to bring
people together.

We may see a few similarities between science and
religion in a very general sense; however, a sameness
about them? When it comes to people and the effects
that science and religion can have on them, science
and religion are as different as day and night!

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Our heads up in the sky,
We're so clueless of our worth...
Whose sky no longer shines
As we lose our Mother-Earth?

As people we must learn
About the care of planet parts,
To leave the world a better turn--
Empower brand new hearts!

Paine Ellsworth

Painius wrote,

We look for similarity in many things,
however there is little similarity between
science and religion.

With one major exception, Paine. The void-space paradigm (VSP). The VSP
with its trappings of flying 'magical messengers' available in unlimited
numbers on demand, geodesics that can crush massive stars into black
holes, plus the unquestioning, unwavering belief of its adherents in the
face of reason, makes the VSP a full-fledged
religion.

..in order for religion to truly work, it
must remain closed, or at the very least,
highly resistant, to anything that would
upset the tenets handed down from
generation to generation.

Fits the VSP to a 'T', does it not?

There is another difference i just thought
of.... my hosts were adamant about
taboo subjects, i.e., subjects i should not discuss...

Like the literal mechanism of gravity and the ludicrousness
(ludicrosity?) of the VSP, maybe?

Try to really, really analyze this one statement, really wrap your head
around it, and see what is revealed about the robustness of the "Void":

"THERE IS NO PERCEPTIBLE UPPER LIMIT TO THE AMPLITUDE OF EM RADIATION
TRANSMISSIBLE."

Do y'all begin to 'get it' yet?

oc

"It is described abstractly in mathematical language, _but not
explained_."

Painius wrote,

We look for similarity in many things,
however there is little similarity between
science and religion.

With one major exception, Paine. The void-space paradigm (VSP). The VSP
with its trappings of flying 'magical messengers' available in unlimited
numbers on demand, geodesics that can crush massive stars into black
holes, plus the unquestioning, unwavering belief of its adherents in the
face of reason, makes the VSP a full-fledged
religion.

..in order for religion to truly work, it
must remain closed, or at the very least,
highly resistant, to anything that would
upset the tenets handed down from
generation to generation.

Fits the VSP to a 'T', does it not?

There is another difference i just thought
of.... my hosts were adamant about
taboo subjects, i.e., subjects i should not discuss...

Like the literal mechanism of gravity and the ludicrousness
(ludicrosity?) of the VSP, maybe?

Try to really, really analyze this one statement, really wrap your head
around it, and see what is revealed about the robustness of the "Void":

"THERE IS NO PERCEPTIBLE UPPER LIMIT TO THE AMPLITUDE OF EM RADIATION
TRANSMISSIBLE."

Do y'all begin to 'get it' yet?

oc

"It is described abstractly in mathematical language, _but not
explained_."

"Bill Sheppard" wrote in message ...
Painius wrote,

We look for similarity in many things,
however there is little similarity between
science and religion.

With one major exception, Paine. The void-space paradigm (VSP). The VSP
with its trappings of flying 'magical messengers' available in unlimited
numbers on demand, geodesics that can crush massive stars into black
holes, plus the unquestioning, unwavering belief of its adherents in the
face of reason, makes the VSP a full-fledged
religion.

Lately, there is more and more discussion and learning
about "dark energy." Scientists are calling it a "property
of space itself" rather than just an inhabitant of space, as
"normal" energy seems to be.

It's beginning to appear that the VSP is on its way out of
the mainstream, and that what you are calling the "VED"
is what the mainstream is calling "dark energy."

..in order for religion to truly work, it
must remain closed, or at the very least,
highly resistant, to anything that would
upset the tenets handed down from
generation to generation.

Fits the VSP to a 'T', does it not?

No argument here, Bill.

There is another difference i just thought
of.... my hosts were adamant about
taboo subjects, i.e., subjects i should not discuss...

Like the literal mechanism of gravity and the ludicrousness
(ludicrosity?) of the VSP, maybe?

Actually no... such things were not taboo, they were just not
subjects of general interest.

Try to really, really analyze this one statement, really wrap your head
around it, and see what is revealed about the robustness of the "Void":

"THERE IS NO PERCEPTIBLE UPPER LIMIT TO THE AMPLITUDE OF EM RADIATION
TRANSMISSIBLE."

Do y'all begin to 'get it' yet?

oc

"It is described abstractly in mathematical language, _but not
explained_."

Are you talking amplitude? or frequency? There is such a thing
as saturation when it comes to the strength of EM radiation;
however, i know of know upper limitation on frequency in the
radiation spectrum.

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Sometimes OH! my mind grips a thought so unkind
That it twists me to heights of contortion...
I'm often so glad that my mom and my dad
Didn't follow along with abortion!

Paine Ellsworth