The Big Space Station

"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message
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David If you go back and read my post you will find I said "robot
space station" Never wanted astronauts going to Jupiter. Its to long a
trip. You are so intent to find fault with what I post that
you jump before you read what I'm saying. Bert

Uh...

"I know it will never be done,but its an idea that I like. NASA has to
scrape those old shuttles,so lets attach them to the space station,and
use them to push the space station to Jupiter. their pay load just has
to be extra fuel. It is better than putting them on display,for they
have a sad history,and beside the awesome Saturn V they look Micky
Mouse. Bert"

BV.

My position is that I'm not altogether convinced that we had the
technology back in the late 60's to make it happen

Not only did we HAVE the technology (we've not advanced that far even now), but
we DID go and anyone who even THINKS we didn't should take a Long Walk off a
Short Pier.


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On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:37:34 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
m wrote:

"I know it will never be done,but its an idea that I like. NASA has to
scrape those old shuttles,so lets attach them to the space station,and
use them to push the space station to Jupiter. their pay load just has
to be extra fuel. It is better than putting them on display,for they
have a sad history,and beside the awesome Saturn V they look Micky
Mouse. Bert"

I'm sure there will be lots of reasons why this wouldn't work, however
as I'm not familiar with the design of the meccano set we are talking
about nor qualified to make that assessment I'll take the attitude
that it isn't a possible option.

Andrew

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Bert posted:

If you go back and read my post you will find I said "robot
space station"

No YOU read YOUR OWN POSTING!!! You posted:

Hi Eddie The public lost interest in the Rube Goldberg shuttle because
it went round and round. They lost interest in the space station the day
it was completed,for it goes round and round. We the public like to go
places,and explore. We have seen the surface of Venus,and Mars,and can
save the pictures. Having the space station orbiting Jupiter
would be a great accomplishment. I think 3 of its moons are more
interesting than Jupiter,or any other objects in our solar system.
I know the space station would still have all of its inertia,but it is
in orbit already. Would like to hear from an engineer if the shuttles
can be used as tug boats in space.

Not one word of this is "robot". You clearly are criticizing the ISS,
for that is the ONLY space station currently in orbit around the Earth.
Even in your earlier posting (which I am not referering to at all), you
did not clearly state that the station was to be unmanned. Moving ISS
to Jupiter is incredibly stupid, not to mention being incredibly
expensive. The station is designed to support a HUMAN presence in space
and not to act as a deep-space research platform (why in the world do
you think that there are all those pressurized modules on it?). There
is no logical reason to do this, as small dedicated probes could do
observations of Jupiter and its moons at a vastly lower cost. Now, for
once in your life, PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!
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David Read my July 5th post." Robot space station: Never once
mentioned astronauts Jupiter is to far. Astronauts are very brave,but
they are not stupid. Do you think they would ride those Rube Goldberg
shuttles that were made to be reusable.and ended up as more expensive
and a killer. Bert PS Think before you jump(if possible)

Hi Eddie NASA is 100% political.It runs on government money. In the
past 3 years we have gone many trillions of dollars in the red.If NASA
Mars lander fails NASA will have its budget slashed. If it finds
CO2,rock,dust and no "water" that will not go over to big. Would
like to know if there is anyone aboard the space station now?
Bert

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:31:39 -0400 (EDT),
(G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

Hi Eddie You have to face reality. Todays NASA just don't have the
right stuff. I did not like the way they fired the styrofoam into the
flat area of the wing. The leading curved area(front part) of the wing
would be the area that would have been hit. We have to realize at 1.22
minutes of the flight both the wing,and the Styrofoam would have been
going in the same direction. That makes a big difference,and it was not
tested under these conditions. The Columbia was the shuttle that had
cracked pipes from old age.(high pressure pipes.) It is a smoking
gun,and like the Challenger will do the best it can as all political
agencies do,"stone wall and cover things up". They will end up saying
they fixed the Styrofoam problem(better glue) and it is now safe to fly
the shuttles again.

One positive thing that we can expect from this situation however is
that once the shuttle is up there in orbit they will point some high
power telescopes at it to inspect the structure of the shuttle.

It's a pity they didn't do that before.

Andrew

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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message
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David Read my July 5th post." Robot space station: Never once
mentioned astronauts Jupiter is to far. Astronauts are very brave,but
they are not stupid. Do you think they would ride those Rube Goldberg
shuttles that were made to be reusable.and ended up as more expensive
and a killer. Bert PS Think before you jump(if possible)

Bert...I agree attacking you without facts is equal to your posting without
facts. The fact of the matter however is that your July 5th post reads:

"I know it will never be done,but its an idea that I like. NASA has to
scrape those old shuttles,so lets attach them to the space station,and
use them to push the space station to Jupiter. their pay load just has
to be extra fuel. It is better than putting them on display,for they
have a sad history,and beside the awesome Saturn V they look Micky
Mouse. Bert"

Where is the word Robot in that quote?

BV.

"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message
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Hi Eddie You have to face reality. Todays NASA just don't have the
right stuff. I did not like the way they fired the styrofoam into the
flat area of the wing.
snip

Bert, check out http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...-shuttle_x.htm
and you will see that they fired a glancing blow to the edge of the wing.
The impact occurred on the underside at the edge the wing as is expected
happened to Columbia.

BV.

"Jonathan Silverlight" wrote in message
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snip
To be fair to Bert, his July 4th post did include the word robot. It's a
remarkably silly idea, but the word was there.
snip

I see that. Thanks for the tip. My apologies to Bert. I was referencing his
July 5th, 2003 post in which he posted the same concept sans ROBOT. I stand
corrected.

BV.