NASA's long-running 'Cover Story' Comes to an End!

On Feb 8, 4:02*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
The Big DP wrote:
Yeah, Brad Guth usually goes sight unseen because, if for
nothing else his sentence structure and his 'interesting' combination of
words tire me out.

I'm still not completely sure he really exists, and isn't just some sort
of random word sentence creation computer program.
But that's probably because I'm a brown-nosing LLPOF incest-cloned Borg
Zionist Nazi. :-D

Pat

Who will get his when the Apollo cows come home...

On Feb 16, 2:06*pm, "The Big DP" wrote:
"Fred J. McCall" wrote in messagenews:kmacn5dgahg4uog5rirhbvus4129uonvo3@4ax .com...



"The Big DP" wrote:

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: "The Big DP" wrote:
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: : The Big DP wrote:
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: : But that's probably because I'm a brown-nosing LLPOF incest-cloned
: Borg
: : Zionist Nazi. :-D
: :
: :
: : *SNORT* hee hee hee...good one, Pat
: :
: : It took me forever to figure out what the "LLPOF" was all about.
: : It's "Liar, Lier, Pants On Fire"... really hard language on his
part.
: :-D
: :
: :
: :Truth be told Pat....I actually had to ask him. How pathetic is THAT?
: :
:
: They don't have Google on your planet?
:
:Ahhhh....I can rest in peace now, I've finally been snubbed by Fred.
Thanks!
:

That's not a 'snub'. *Perhaps you should check a dictionary for the
meaning of that word while you're trying to figure out how to use
Google?

*Chortle* Remember Fred we're talking Brad Guth and his odd use of the
language. It never occurred to me that something Brad would type would be
Google-able. Oh and Fred....being condescending to someone IS a snub. If you
don't think so I love to see you explain why it wouldn't be.


Fred has no clue when he's condescending. He REALLY thinks that he
isn't when he is.

On Feb 17, 12:32*pm, "The Big DP" wrote:
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: : : But that's probably because I'm a brown-nosing LLPOF
incest-cloned
: : Borg
: : : Zionist Nazi. :-D
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: : :
: : : *SNORT* hee hee hee...good one, Pat
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: : : It took me forever to figure out what the "LLPOF" was all about.

On Feb 8, 5:55*pm, "The Big DP" wrote:
"OM" wrote in message

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On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:51:54 -0800, "The Big DP"
wrote:

I have stated more than once that there's very little
of note to contribute by me.

...Then you don't count, much less have the right to criticize me. Not
one word. End of story.

PLONK

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * OM

I am not surprised....but I am saddened. You Coward!

OM is really a character on the Simpsons, or that's what he acts like.

On Feb 5, 8:00*pm, "Jonathan" wrote:
"OM" wrote in message

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On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:44:38 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Well, I think it deserves a more measured response than that...

...Brian, the "measured response" I want to give catamitic trolls like
"jonathan" are carefully measured blows from a Louisville Slugger with
a railroad spike in the business end. Measured to apply the proper
amount of force to cause permanent pain without killing the little
*******, because I'd want him to suffer for the rest of his unnatural
life without being able to troll again.

"jonathan" deserves this as assuredly as a child molester would at the
very minimum.

Ya know, you may find this hard to believe, but directly experiencing
the pure hate of others is surprisingly educational. Why I'm pure evil
to you is odd, I've made it clear for years my goal is to see NASA
have a zero added to it's budget, and soon.

Wait, manned spaceflight or all of NASA? What about all the good solar
stuff and astronomy, unmanned missions to the outer planets, earth
observation?


Space Solar Power
is far more popular than the Moon in the polls. * While also being
within the realm of possibility in technology, competitiveness and
within one of the very largest industries on Earth, energy.
A 'thin' and crucial industry badly needing new sources.

It's only waiting for lower cost to orbit to become practical.

Not to mention the idea makes sense on many other levels, it's
easy to sell and could become very popular in the foreseeable
future, given the negative trends within the current energy market.
It's the only renewable that can tap directly into baseload
power.

It can be very popular with the greens, and with big business.
It can appeal to the doves that wish to spread prosperity
world wide, as well as the hawks that see it as a solution
to our greatest single national security weakness.

What happens if it go into the wrong hands?


It can start a new and large high tech industry which requires
solutions to the high cost to orbit. Which alone can enable
anything else we wish to do in space.

And Space Solar Power is engineering on a grand scale, so
much so, that it's accomplishments will easily become a
permanent player in the largest of all stages, the night sky.
And it's benefits seen as a turning point in human history.

Apollo saved the world from itself in winning the cold war.

The USSR fell in upon itself. And the Cold War raged on 20 years after
Apollo.


Repeating Apollo means doing just that again.
But from the greatest global threats of ....today.

Fossil fuels and climate change.

NASA needs to become an advisor, not just
a pawn, stand up and say that they can
solve those two problems. They CAN!

Where does the DOE fit in? NSF?

If for no other reason than that, they SHOULD!.
And there's no reason why an ambitious SSP
program can't begin tomorrow within the
existing budget. As pure research is the first
step, not the hardware.

You haven't thought how ALL the players would get involved. How are
you going to lift the barrier to entry as imposed by oil companies
using fossil fuels to now retool and invest into SSP?


Being a leader in space means being the first to figure out
how to put space activity ....to good use.


No, NASA needs to get us there it is up to industry to figure out how
to use it.

On Feb 5, 1:38*pm, bob haller safety advocate wrote:
On Feb 5, 7:13 am, "Jeff Findley" wrote:

"Jonathan" wrote in message

m...

The manned space program is, and always has been, a military oriented
program. The civilian cover stories of the early rocket days became
institutionalized.

This is absolutely false.

Jeff

all the original boosters, were adapted military ICBMs. Spece was a
public way to show our capabilities. Heck someone even wated to
detoinate a NUKE on the moons surface facing earth

Someone also wanted to use the Grand Canyon as a nuclear waste sight.
Those "someones" usually get voted out the next term.

On Feb 17, 9:52*am, Eric Chomko wrote:
On Feb 5, 8:00*pm, "Jonathan" wrote:



"OM" wrote in message

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On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:44:38 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Well, I think it deserves a more measured response than that...

...Brian, the "measured response" I want to give catamitic trolls like
"jonathan" are carefully measured blows from a Louisville Slugger with
a railroad spike in the business end. Measured to apply the proper
amount of force to cause permanent pain without killing the little
*******, because I'd want him to suffer for the rest of his unnatural
life without being able to troll again.

"jonathan" deserves this as assuredly as a child molester would at the
very minimum.

Ya know, you may find this hard to believe, but directly experiencing
the pure hate of others is surprisingly educational. Why I'm pure evil
to you is odd, I've made it clear for years my goal is to see NASA
have a zero added to it's budget, and soon.

Wait, manned spaceflight or all of NASA? What about all the good solar
stuff and astronomy, unmanned missions to the outer planets, earth
observation?



Space Solar Power
is far more popular than the Moon in the polls. * While also being
within the realm of possibility in technology, competitiveness and
within one of the very largest industries on Earth, energy.
A 'thin' and crucial industry badly needing new sources.

It's only waiting for lower cost to orbit to become practical.

Not to mention the idea makes sense on many other levels, it's
easy to sell and could become very popular in the foreseeable
future, given the negative trends within the current energy market.
It's the only renewable that can tap directly into baseload
power.

It can be very popular with the greens, and with big business.
It can appeal to the doves that wish to spread prosperity
world wide, as well as the hawks that see it as a solution
to our greatest single national security weakness.

What happens if it go into the wrong hands?



It can start a new and large high tech industry which requires
solutions to the high cost to orbit. Which alone can enable
anything else we wish to do in space.

And Space Solar Power is engineering on a grand scale, so
much so, that it's accomplishments will easily become a
permanent player in the largest of all stages, the night sky.
And it's benefits seen as a turning point in human history.

Apollo saved the world from itself in winning the cold war.

The USSR fell in upon itself. And the Cold War raged on 20 years after
Apollo.



Repeating Apollo means doing just that again.
But from the greatest global threats of ....today.

Fossil fuels and climate change.

NASA needs to become an advisor, not just
a pawn, stand up and say that they can
solve those two problems. They CAN!

Where does the DOE fit in? NSF?

If for no other reason than that, they SHOULD!.
And there's no reason why an ambitious SSP
program can't begin tomorrow within the
existing budget. As pure research is the first
step, not the hardware.

You haven't thought how ALL the players would get involved. How are
you going to lift the barrier to entry as imposed by oil companies
using fossil fuels to now retool and invest into SSP?



Being a leader in space means being the first to figure out
how to put space activity ....to good use.

No, NASA needs to get us there it is up to industry to figure out how
to use it.

Our mutually perpetrated cold-war is far from over (if anything it has
spread), so the to/from cost of dealing with our moon(Selene) shall
remain as cloak and dagger as well as full of unknowns and otherwise
spendy, mostly because everyone gets to reinvent the wheel since we're
kept on the need-to-know list of what was 100% public funded to begin
with.

Thankfully, China doesn't have to screw around.

~ BG

"Eric Chomko" wrote in message
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On Feb 17, 12:32 pm, "The Big DP" wrote:
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: : : The Big DP wrote:
: : :
: : : But that's probably because I'm a brown-nosing LLPOF
incest-cloned
: : Borg
: : : Zionist Nazi. :-D
: : :
: : :
: : : *SNORT* hee hee hee...good one, Pat
: : :
: : : It took me forever to figure out what the "LLPOF" was all
about.
: : : It's "Liar, Lier, Pants On Fire"... really hard language on his
: part.
: : :-D
: : :
: : :
: : :Truth be told Pat....I actually had to ask him. How pathetic is
THAT?
: : :
: :
: : They don't have Google on your planet?
: :
: :Ahhhh....I can rest in peace now, I've finally been snubbed by Fred.
: Thanks!
: :
:
: That's not a 'snub'. Perhaps you should check a dictionary for the
: meaning of that word while you're trying to figure out how to use
: Google?
:
:*Chortle* Remember Fred we're talking Brad Guth and his odd use of the
:language. It never occurred to me that something Brad would type would
be
:Google-able. Oh and Fred....being condescending to someone IS a snub.
If
you
:don't think so I love to see you explain why it wouldn't be.
:

Because it's not. Red isn't blue. If you think it is, I'd love to
see you explain why it is.

You DO enjoy the semantic battle don't you. I would agree that Red isn't
Blue....but I perceive your first remark as a snub, so thus whether or not
you intended it as a snub it doesn't matter. Perception, as 'they' say IS
reality.

With all those perceptions, isn't their only one reality?

In a word? No. Think about that. What you see and what Fred sees and what I
see are all a little different....it may look the same but it isn't, quite.

Fred J. McCall wrote:

Because it's not. Red isn't blue. If you think it is, I'd love to
see you explain why it is.

In the anti-universe, red is blue, black is white, and Obama is the
first white man to be elected president of the Disunited States. ;-)

Pat

"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
...
The Big DP wrote:
With all those perceptions, isn't their only one reality?

In a word? No. Think about that. What you see and what Fred sees and what
I see are all a little different....it may look the same but it isn't,
quite.

There's a newspaper that's looking for people with this viewpoint, and
firing them if they don't have it:
http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/fre...-be-objective/
Mr. Springston didn't have it, and Mr. Springston got canned.
Now, We don't mean that Mr. Springston was literally put in a can of some
sort, but rather that he was fired...not literally set on fire, mind you,
but... ;-)

Pat

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