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Old June 5th 10, 06:37 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique,sci.astro
Pentcho Valev
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Default CAPACITORS VIOLATING THE SECOND LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS

A few years ago, at the 2002 First International Conference on Quantum
Limits to the Second Law, I tried to draw the attention to the fact
that charged capacitors immersed in water develop a strange pressure
between the plates, a pressure that, on close inspection, seems to
violate the second law of thermodynamics:

http://link.aip.org/link/?APCPCS/643/430/1

http://www.wbabin.net/valev/valev2.pdf

The scientific community remained silent and hostile but now I see the
idea that capacitors can violate the second law has been developed
ever since:

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/...912.4818v3.pdf
"Recently (Physics Letters A 374 (2010) 1801) the concept of vacuum
capacitor spontaneously charged harnessing the heat absorbed from a
single thermal reservoir at room temperature has been introduced..."

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/...904.3188v4.pdf
"In this paper we describe a vacuum spherical capacitor that generates
a macroscopic voltage between its spheres harnessing the heat from a
single thermal reservoir at room temperature. (...) The author wishes
also gratefully acknowledge stimulating and encouraging discussions
with Prof. Daniel P. Sheehan (University of San Diego) during the
preparation of an early draft of the manuscript."

Bravo, Daniel P. Sheehan! You were hostile in 2002 but now I see you
have taken some notice of what I told you. Your triumph will come
soon:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...usd-professor/
"Clean-cut and middle-aged, a tenured professor at a conservative
Catholic university, Sheehan is hardly a rebel. Yet for years, he and
a few other physicists have been pressing peers to re-examine the
Second Law of Thermodynamics, one of the most celebrated and cherished
tenets of physics. (...) But Sheehan suggests big things are possible
if even the tiniest of violations can be proven, and ultimately
exploited in an economically feasible way. For example, it might
become possible to convert ambient heat into an infinite energy
source, he said."

Pentcho Valev

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Old June 5th 10, 03:03 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique,sci.astro
Pentcho Valev
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Default CAPACITORS VIOLATING THE SECOND LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS

http://www.physorg.com/news110191847.html
"When exposed to a high-voltage electric field, water in two beakers
climbs out of the beakers and crosses empty space to meet, forming the
water bridge. The liquid bridge, hovering in space, appears to the
human eye to defy gravity."

In a strong electrical field water dipoles are ordered in such a way
that thermal agitation of molecules produces a SPECIFIC PRESSURE
inside the liquid acting in the direction of the field (it is this
pressure that makes the water bridge described above "defy gravity").
In certain experiments this specific pressure can lift water: the
energy needed for lifting is in fact heat absorbed from the
surroundings. If lifted water is allowed to leave the field pushed by
the specific pressure (for instance, when water has been lifted
between the plates of a capacitor, the specific pressure could push it
through a hole in one of the plates), the liquid will form, ideally,
an eternal waterfall outside the strong field. Perhaps the device
cannot be of any practical use as a heat engine but still it violates
the second law of thermodynamics.

Pentcho Valev wrote:

A few years ago, at the 2002 First International Conference on Quantum
Limits to the Second Law, I tried to draw the attention to the fact
that charged capacitors immersed in water develop a strange pressure
between the plates, a pressure that, on close inspection, seems to
violate the second law of thermodynamics:

http://link.aip.org/link/?APCPCS/643/430/1

http://www.wbabin.net/valev/valev2.pdf

The scientific community remained silent and hostile but now I see the
idea that capacitors can violate the second law has been developed
ever since:

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/...912.4818v3.pdf
"Recently (Physics Letters A 374 (2010) 1801) the concept of vacuum
capacitor spontaneously charged harnessing the heat absorbed from a
single thermal reservoir at room temperature has been introduced..."

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/...904.3188v4.pdf
"In this paper we describe a vacuum spherical capacitor that generates
a macroscopic voltage between its spheres harnessing the heat from a
single thermal reservoir at room temperature. (...) The author wishes
also gratefully acknowledge stimulating and encouraging discussions
with Prof. Daniel P. Sheehan (University of San Diego) during the
preparation of an early draft of the manuscript."

Bravo, Daniel P. Sheehan! You were hostile in 2002 but now I see you
have taken some notice of what I told you. Your triumph will come
soon:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...usd-professor/
"Clean-cut and middle-aged, a tenured professor at a conservative
Catholic university, Sheehan is hardly a rebel. Yet for years, he and
a few other physicists have been pressing peers to re-examine the
Second Law of Thermodynamics, one of the most celebrated and cherished
tenets of physics. (...) But Sheehan suggests big things are possible
if even the tiniest of violations can be proven, and ultimately
exploited in an economically feasible way. For example, it might
become possible to convert ambient heat into an infinite energy
source, he said."

Pentcho Valev

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Old June 6th 10, 07:52 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique,sci.astro
Pentcho Valev
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Default CAPACITORS VIOLATING THE SECOND LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS

Today's scientists stop reading, thinking, even breathing, as soon as
they bump into the idea that the second law of thermodynamics might be
false or that Einstein's 1905 light postulate might be false:

http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com...html#seventeen
George Orwell: "Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as
though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It
includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive
logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are
inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of
thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction.
Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity."

So a number of fundamental questions simply cannot be discussed in
today's science. One of them is:

Why does immersing a constant-charge parallel-plate capacitor in water
drastically DECREASE (80 times) the force of attraction between the
plates while inserting a SOLID dielectric between the plates INCREASES
the force of attraction?

Pentcho Valev wrote:

http://www.physorg.com/news110191847.html
"When exposed to a high-voltage electric field, water in two beakers
climbs out of the beakers and crosses empty space to meet, forming the
water bridge. The liquid bridge, hovering in space, appears to the
human eye to defy gravity."

In a strong electrical field water dipoles are ordered in such a way
that thermal agitation of molecules produces a SPECIFIC PRESSURE
inside the liquid acting in the direction of the field (it is this
pressure that makes the water bridge described above "defy gravity").
In certain experiments this specific pressure can lift water: the
energy needed for lifting is in fact heat absorbed from the
surroundings. If lifted water is allowed to leave the field pushed by
the specific pressure (for instance, when water has been lifted
between the plates of a capacitor, the specific pressure could push it
through a hole in one of the plates), the liquid will form, ideally,
an eternal waterfall outside the strong field. Perhaps the device
cannot be of any practical use as a heat engine but still it violates
the second law of thermodynamics.

A few years ago, at the 2002 First International Conference on Quantum
Limits to the Second Law, I tried to draw the attention to the fact
that charged capacitors immersed in water develop a strange pressure
between the plates, a pressure that, on close inspection, seems to
violate the second law of thermodynamics:

http://link.aip.org/link/?APCPCS/643/430/1

http://www.wbabin.net/valev/valev2.pdf

The scientific community remained silent and hostile but now I see the
idea that capacitors can violate the second law has been developed
ever since:

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/...912.4818v3.pdf
"Recently (Physics Letters A 374 (2010) 1801) the concept of vacuum
capacitor spontaneously charged harnessing the heat absorbed from a
single thermal reservoir at room temperature has been introduced..."

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/...904.3188v4.pdf
"In this paper we describe a vacuum spherical capacitor that generates
a macroscopic voltage between its spheres harnessing the heat from a
single thermal reservoir at room temperature. (...) The author wishes
also gratefully acknowledge stimulating and encouraging discussions
with Prof. Daniel P. Sheehan (University of San Diego) during the
preparation of an early draft of the manuscript."

Bravo, Daniel P. Sheehan! You were hostile in 2002 but now I see you
have taken some notice of what I told you. Your triumph will come
soon:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...usd-professor/
"Clean-cut and middle-aged, a tenured professor at a conservative
Catholic university, Sheehan is hardly a rebel. Yet for years, he and
a few other physicists have been pressing peers to re-examine the
Second Law of Thermodynamics, one of the most celebrated and cherished
tenets of physics. (...) But Sheehan suggests big things are possible
if even the tiniest of violations can be proven, and ultimately
exploited in an economically feasible way. For example, it might
become possible to convert ambient heat into an infinite energy
source, he said."

Pentcho Valev

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Old June 6th 10, 12:41 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique,sci.astro
Elijahovah
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Default CAPACITORS VIOLATING THE SECOND LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS

If the pressure between walls of a submarine causes it to rise or
submerge without effecting the internal pressure for the crew; cannot
the same principle be used to lift off up thru atmosphere. If liquid
water defies gravity, cannot solid people. People once thought
hydrogen balloon blimps could be it until they exploded in fire. But
what about other means to defy gravity. It has already been
demonstrated that an electric field can be diverted away and around
from people working on electricity.
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Old June 6th 10, 07:30 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique,sci.astro
Edward Green
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Default CAPACITORS VIOLATING THE SECOND LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS

On Jun 5, 1:37*am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
A few years ago, at the 2002 First International Conference on Quantum
Limits to the Second Law, I tried to draw the attention to the fact
that charged capacitors immersed in water develop a strange pressure
between the plates, a pressure that, on close inspection, seems to
violate the second law of thermodynamics:

http://link.aip.org/link/?APCPCS/643/430/1

http://www.wbabin.net/valev/valev2.pdf

The scientific community remained silent and hostile but now I see the
idea that capacitors can violate the second law has been developed
ever since:

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/...912.4818v3.pdf
"Recently (Physics Letters A 374 (2010) 1801) the concept of vacuum
capacitor spontaneously charged harnessing the heat absorbed from a
single thermal reservoir at room temperature has been introduced..."

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/...904.3188v4.pdf
"In this paper we describe a vacuum spherical capacitor that generates
a macroscopic voltage between its spheres harnessing the heat from a
single thermal reservoir at room temperature. (...) The author wishes
also gratefully acknowledge stimulating and encouraging discussions
with Prof. Daniel P. Sheehan (University of San Diego) during the
preparation of an early draft of the manuscript."

Bravo, Daniel P. Sheehan! You were hostile in 2002 but now I see you
have taken some notice of what I told you. Your triumph will come
soon:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...challenge-usd-...
"Clean-cut and middle-aged, a tenured professor at a conservative
Catholic university, Sheehan is hardly a rebel. Yet for years, he and
a few other physicists have been pressing peers to re-examine the
Second Law of Thermodynamics, one of the most celebrated and cherished
tenets of physics. (...) But Sheehan suggests big things are possible
if even the tiniest of violations can be proven, and ultimately
exploited in an economically feasible way. For example, it might
become possible to convert ambient heat into an infinite energy
source, he said."


Sheehan sent me a copy of one of his papers, once, when such things
were thinkable on sci.physics.
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Old June 6th 10, 07:34 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique,sci.astro
Edward Green
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Default CAPACITORS VIOLATING THE SECOND LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS

On Jun 6, 2:52*am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Today's scientists stop reading, thinking, even breathing, as soon as
they bump into the idea that the second law of thermodynamics might be
false or that Einstein's 1905 light postulate might be false:

http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com...html#seventeen
George Orwell: "Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as
though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It
includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive
logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are
inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of
thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction.
Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity."

So a number of fundamental questions simply cannot be discussed in
today's science. One of them is:

Why does immersing a constant-charge parallel-plate capacitor in water
drastically DECREASE (80 times) the force of attraction between the
plates while inserting a SOLID dielectric between the plates INCREASES
the force of attraction?

...

I don't know. But why would such a thing violate the second law of
thermodynamics?
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Old June 7th 10, 03:24 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique,sci.astro
Pentcho Valev
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Crimestop is combined with doublethink, that is, although today's
scientists stop short at the threshold of any thought that is REALLY
dangerous for the second law of thermodynamics and Einstein's 1905
light postulate, they know both principles are false and are not
afraid to hint at the falsehood and even extract career and money from
the heresy as long as they see no REAL danger:

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feat...w_%2B_Disorder
"It is widely considered unforgivable heresy to doubt the second law,
thanks in part to a famous passage declaring its infallibility by the
British astrophysicist Sir Arthur Eddington (who, incidentally, coined
the phrase "the arrow of time"). Nevertheless, in recent years the
second law has been challenged as vigorously as health care reform and
Arizona's anti-immigration legislation. (...) "Over the last 10-15
years an unparalleled number of challenges has been proposed against
the status of the Second Law of Thermodynamics," Italian physicist
Germano D'Abramo notes in a recent issue of Physics Letters A. During
that time, more than 50 such papers have appeared in the refereed
literature, he writes."

http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/a...ls.php?id=5538
Paul Davies: "Was Einstein wrong? Einstein's famous equation E=mc2 is
the only scientific formula known to just about everyone. The "c" here
stands for the speed of light. It is one of the most fundamental of
the basic constants of physics. Or is it? In recent years a few
maverick scientists have claimed that the speed of light might not be
constant at all. Shock, horror! Does this mean the next Great
Revolution in Science is just around the corner?"

http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com...html#seventeen
George Orwell: "Doublethink means the power of holding two
contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both
of them. The Party intellectual knows in which direction his memories
must be altered; he therefore knows that he is playing tricks with
reality; but by the exercise of doublethink he also satisfies himself
that reality is not violated. The process has to be conscious, or it
would not be carried out with sufficient precision, but it also has to
be unconscious, or it would bring with it a feeling of falsity and
hence of guilt. Doublethink lies at the very heart of Ingsoc, since
the essential act of the Party is to use conscious deception while
retaining the firmness of purpose that goes with complete honesty. To
tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any
fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary
again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed,
to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take
account of the reality which one denies - all this is indispensably
necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to
exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is
tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this
knowledge ; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead
of the truth. (...) It need hardly be said that the subtlest
practitioners of doublethink are those who invented doublethink and
know that it is a vast system of mental cheating. In our society,
those who have the best knowledge of what is happening are also those
who are furthest from seeing the world as it is. In general, the
greater the understanding, the greater the delusion ; the more
intelligent, the less sane."

Pentcho Valev wrote:

Today's scientists stop reading, thinking, even breathing, as soon as
they bump into the idea that the second law of thermodynamics might be
false or that Einstein's 1905 light postulate might be false:

http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com...html#seventeen
George Orwell: "Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as
though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It
includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive
logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are
inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of
thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction.
Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity."

So a number of fundamental questions simply cannot be discussed in
today's science. One of them is:

Why does immersing a constant-charge parallel-plate capacitor in water
drastically DECREASE (80 times) the force of attraction between the
plates while inserting a SOLID dielectric between the plates INCREASES
the force of attraction?

http://www.physorg.com/news110191847.html
"When exposed to a high-voltage electric field, water in two beakers
climbs out of the beakers and crosses empty space to meet, forming the
water bridge. The liquid bridge, hovering in space, appears to the
human eye to defy gravity."

In a strong electrical field water dipoles are ordered in such a way
that thermal agitation of molecules produces a SPECIFIC PRESSURE
inside the liquid acting in the direction of the field (it is this
pressure that makes the water bridge described above "defy gravity").
In certain experiments this specific pressure can lift water: the
energy needed for lifting is in fact heat absorbed from the
surroundings. If lifted water is allowed to leave the field pushed by
the specific pressure (for instance, when water has been lifted
between the plates of a capacitor, the specific pressure could push it
through a hole in one of the plates), the liquid will form, ideally,
an eternal waterfall outside the strong field. Perhaps the device
cannot be of any practical use as a heat engine but still it violates
the second law of thermodynamics.

A few years ago, at the 2002 First International Conference on Quantum
Limits to the Second Law, I tried to draw the attention to the fact
that charged capacitors immersed in water develop a strange pressure
between the plates, a pressure that, on close inspection, seems to
violate the second law of thermodynamics:

http://link.aip.org/link/?APCPCS/643/430/1

http://www.wbabin.net/valev/valev2.pdf

The scientific community remained silent and hostile but now I see the
idea that capacitors can violate the second law has been developed
ever since:

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/...912.4818v3.pdf
"Recently (Physics Letters A 374 (2010) 1801) the concept of vacuum
capacitor spontaneously charged harnessing the heat absorbed from a
single thermal reservoir at room temperature has been introduced..."

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/...904.3188v4.pdf
"In this paper we describe a vacuum spherical capacitor that generates
a macroscopic voltage between its spheres harnessing the heat from a
single thermal reservoir at room temperature. (...) The author wishes
also gratefully acknowledge stimulating and encouraging discussions
with Prof. Daniel P. Sheehan (University of San Diego) during the
preparation of an early draft of the manuscript."

Bravo, Daniel P. Sheehan! You were hostile in 2002 but now I see you
have taken some notice of what I told you. Your triumph will come
soon:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...usd-professor/
"Clean-cut and middle-aged, a tenured professor at a conservative
Catholic university, Sheehan is hardly a rebel. Yet for years, he and
a few other physicists have been pressing peers to re-examine the
Second Law of Thermodynamics, one of the most celebrated and cherished
tenets of physics. (...) But Sheehan suggests big things are possible
if even the tiniest of violations can be proven, and ultimately
exploited in an economically feasible way. For example, it might
become possible to convert ambient heat into an infinite energy
source, he said."

Pentcho Valev

 




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