One Way Manned Mission to Mars.

On Apr 7, 10:06 am, (Todd H.) wrote:
steve writes:
A one way trip to Mars is not so unlikely as it sounds.
Even if the initial trip is planned as a one way trip there will
always be the possibility of a return if world opinion and technology
can be swung to this cause.
Being the first person on MArs would be such a claim to fame that many
people would volunteer.

Virgin Galactic is actively looking for such people actually.
According to Richard Branson's interview on Craig Ferguson's show last
week. There appear to be stories about Virgin and Nasa sharing
technology out there too.

In 1969, there was a waiting list for Moon flights on Pan Am...

Andre

On Apr 7, 1:22 am, steve wrote:
A one way trip to Mars is not so unlikely as it sounds.
Even if the initial trip is planned as a one way trip there will
always be the possibility of a return if world opinion and technology
can be swung to this cause.
Being the first person on MArs would be such a claim to fame that many
people would volunteer.

The resources to achieve a minimum one way trip are not much more than
was required by the Apollo missions. Probably 1/10th of that required
for a return trip.
The danger of radiation in space is mimimized by only making the trip
once from Earth to Mars and as the return journey is probably going to
be even more dangerous due to weight considerations improves the
astronauts chances of survival.
Food could be provided for the full life expectancy of the crew
andfresh produce grown on Mars would be a bonus.

I think this actually may occur in the private sector as the ultimate
thrill trip and could already be afforded by a few people who might go
themselves or cover the costs for volunteers to carry out the trip.

Getting a dead or soon to be dieing astronaut to Mars for as little as
350 billion worth of our hard earned loot isn't a problem. We could
have accomplished that much as of decades ago. Getting the body-bag
worth of that astronaut remains back to Earth is not quite so easy, or
biologically wise.

I wonder what good $350B could have accomplished in robotics and of
extremely fast interstellar probes?
.. - Brad Guth

Todd H. wrote:
Virgin Galactic is actively looking for such people actually.
According to Richard Branson's interview on Craig Ferguson's show last
week. There appear to be stories about Virgin and Nasa sharing
technology out there too.


The Virgin Galactic Mars Base release was a April Fool's joke, you know.
I might volunteer for a one-way Mars mission; not to be first on another
planet, but to be someplace where you aren't deluged with advertising 24/7.

Pat

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Todd H. wrote:
Virgin Galactic is actively looking for such people actually.
According to Richard Branson's interview on Craig Ferguson's show last
week. There appear to be stories about Virgin and Nasa sharing
technology out there too.

The Virgin Galactic Mars Base release was a April Fool's joke, you know.
I might volunteer for a one-way Mars mission; not to be first on another
planet, but to be someplace where you aren't deluged with advertising
24/7.

Pat

What do you mean? How the heck do you think they'd make your trip
affordable, they'd deluge you with advertising.

"Tired of Spam in your Monthly Earth Food Shipments? Upgrade to Devilled
Ham for only $15.95/oz!"





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Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:
What do you mean? How the heck do you think they'd make your trip
affordable, they'd deluge you with advertising.
"Tired of Spam in your Monthly Earth Food Shipments? Upgrade to Devilled
Ham for only $15.95/oz!"


There's just no escaping it, is there?
If I find those Martian sausage plants like in "Robinson Crusoe On
Mars", and the AE-65 communications antenna is going to "accidentally"
fall off the exterior of the spacecraft around ten minutes later.

Pat

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Todd H. wrote:
Virgin Galactic is actively looking for such people actually.
According to Richard Branson's interview on Craig Ferguson's show last
week. There appear to be stories about Virgin and Nasa sharing
technology out there too.

The Virgin Galactic Mars Base release was a April Fool's joke, you know.
I might volunteer for a one-way Mars mission; not to be first on another
planet, but to be someplace where you aren't deluged with advertising
24/7.

Pat

What do you mean? How the heck do you think they'd make your trip
affordable, they'd deluge you with advertising.

"Tired of Spam in your Monthly Earth Food Shipments? Upgrade to Devilled
Ham for only $15.95/oz!"





--
Greg Moore
SQL Server DBA Consulting Remote and Onsite available!
Email: sql (at) greenms.com http://www.greenms.com/sqlserver.html

On Apr 7, 9:29 am, BradGuth wrote:
On Apr 7, 1:22 am, steve wrote:

A one way trip to Mars is not so unlikely as it sounds.
Even if the initial trip is planned as a one way trip there will
always be the possibility of a return if world opinion and technology
can be swung to this cause.
Being the first person on MArs would be such a claim to fame that many
people would volunteer.

The resources to achieve a minimum one way trip are not much more than
was required by the Apollo missions. Probably 1/10th of that required
for a return trip.
The danger of radiation in space is mimimized by only making the trip
once from Earth to Mars and as the return journey is probably going to
be even more dangerous due to weight considerations improves the
astronauts chances of survival.
Food could be provided for the full life expectancy of the crew
andfresh produce grown on Mars would be a bonus.

I think this actually may occur in the private sector as the ultimate
thrill trip and could already be afforded by a few people who might go
themselves or cover the costs for volunteers to carry out the trip.

Getting a dead or soon to be dieing astronaut to Mars for as little as
350 billion worth of our hard earned loot isn't a problem. We could
have accomplished that much as of decades ago. Getting the body-bag
worth of that astronaut remains back to Earth is not quite so easy, or
biologically wise.

I wonder what better good $350B could have accomplished in robotics
and of extremely fast interstellar probes?
. - Brad Guth

The even more spendy 20 year NASA plan of action for having a team of
humans situated on Mars is pie in the sky, as well pie in the face of
logic and reason.

The honest birth-to-grave (meaning all-inclusive) cost of
accomplishing anything off-world as orchestrated by our NASA, is
simply anything but short of going to cost us a good ten fold more
than we're being told.

Of compact robotics is what's barely doable as is, and still without a
viable flyby-rocket lander makes for such robotic deployments as
extremely limited and far less reliable for deploying much of anything
but small/compact technology applications of relatively robust but low
mass applications of direct surface touch science gathering.

The orbital and spectrum sensitive imaging that can provide far better
than 100mm resolution (with 10mm/pixel becoming doable), can detect
with great sensitivity as to the mineralogy of Mars as is, is in fact
obtaining better planetology science than from what's in orbit around
Earth.

There isn't hardly a square meter of Mars not within the archives of
imaging and of detailed spectral derived mineralogy science as is, and
of taking this down to 10mm resolution or even of physically touching
each and every cm2 isn't going to hardly alter the existing science or
human survivability aspects of Mars.

It's time to move onto an extremely nearby planet that is geothermally
active and has unlimited local energy to burn (so to speak), meaning
Venus.
.. - Brad Guth