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When Two Hurricanes Merge
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/avn-l.jpg
Anyone watching what is going on in the Caribbean? Do you think they will merge like the spots on Jupiter? Anybody still remember the Great White Spot in the Pacific? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Ioke |
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When Two Hurricanes Merge
"kT" wrote in message ... http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/avn-l.jpg Anyone watching what is going on in the Caribbean? Living in Miami we watch every day this time of year. Do you think they will merge like the spots on Jupiter? I don't think that's likely, hurricanes always seem to be surrounded by high pressure areas which keep them spaced out. But when I looked today at the regional water vapor loop, I noticed the same thing you did, that they're 'stacking up'. Just like 05, one low pressure system right after another. But I have to emphasize again what has changed in the last few years. It's their size, the size of the eye is very important to watch. Tropical storm Fay had an eye over a hundred miles across, just like Katrina and Wilma and several other recent storms. Remember, the eye shows how much heat energy is stored. These storms are easily two or three times as large as what is typical. And that doesn't mean two or three times more potential energy, the energy is squared, not multiplied as the eye increases. Look at the last radar image of Andrew, it's eye is about the size of Miami. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/1992andy.JPG Look at the eye of Wilma, almost the size of the ...state. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:W...dfallRadar.png Both reached category 5, but they need to be in two entirely different classes of storms imho. Global warming means hurricanes are now normally the supers. The large eye means a potential for rapid strengthing and maximum speeds. Wilma went from a 80 knot storm that was expected to fall apart once it made landfall, to 135 knot monster in ....THREE HOURS. And it did that overnight which is rather unusual. One storm off the coast of Florida in 05 increased 3 categories in 90 minutes just as it approached landfall. And what this means is that landfall no longer means the storm will quickly dissipate as is usual. Fay just crossed Florida /three times/ without losing hardly any punch. Now, landfall just ****es 'em off. And they're too large and strengthen too quickly to run from them anymore. New Orleans is already talking about a complete evacuation from Gustav if it's follows the expected path. The problem is they have to decide 72 hours in advance. Anybody still remember the Great White Spot in the Pacific? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Ioke That was just a baby at 160mph~ The southern eye wall of Hurricane Wilma passed 40 miles north of my house. "Hurricane Wilma was the most intense hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic basin. In a 30 hour period, the pressure dropped from 982 mbar to the record-low of 882 mbar, while the winds increased to 185 mph (300 km/h). Wilma was the twenty-second storm, thirteenth hurricane, sixth major hurricane, and fourth Category 5 hurricane of the record-breaking 2005 season" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Wilma s |
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On Aug 28, 1:09*am, "jonathan" wrote:
"kT" wrote in ... http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/avn-l.jpg Anyone watching what is going on in the Caribbean? Living in Miami we watch every day this time of year. Do you think they will merge like the spots on Jupiter? I don't think that's likely, hurricanes always seem to be surrounded by high pressure areas which keep them spaced out. But when I looked today at the regional water vapor loop, I noticed the same thing you did, that they're 'stacking up'. Just like 05, one low pressure system right after another. But I have to emphasize again what has changed in the last few years. It's their size, the size of the eye is very important to watch. Tropical storm Fay had an eye over a hundred miles across, just like Katrina and Wilma and several other recent storms. Remember, the eye shows how much heat energy is stored. *These storms are easily two or three times as large as what is typical. And that doesn't mean two or three times more potential energy, the energy is squared, not multiplied as the eye increases. Look at the last radar image of Andrew, it's eye is about the size of Miami.http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/1992andy.JPG Look at the eye of Wilma, almost the size of the ...state.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:W...dfallRadar.png Both reached category 5, but they need to be in two entirely different classes of storms imho. Global warming means hurricanes are now normally the supers. The large eye means a potential for rapid strengthing and maximum speeds. Wilma went from a 80 knot storm that was expected to fall apart once it made landfall, to 135 knot monster in ....THREE HOURS. *And it did that overnight which is rather unusual. *One storm off the coast of Florida in 05 increased 3 categories in 90 minutes just as it approached landfall. And what this means is that landfall no longer means the storm will quickly dissipate as is usual. Fay just crossed Florida /three times/ without losing hardly any punch. Now, landfall just ****es 'em off. And they're too large and strengthen too quickly to run from them anymore. New Orleans is already talking about a complete evacuation from Gustav if it's follows the expected path. The problem is they have to decide 72 hours in advance. Anybody still remember the Great White Spot in the Pacific? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Ioke That was just a baby at 160mph~ The southern eye wall of Hurricane Wilma passed 40 miles north of my house. "Hurricane Wilma was the most intense hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic basin. In a 30 hour period, the pressure dropped from 982 mbar to the record-low of 882 mbar, while the winds increased to 185 mph (300 km/h). Wilma was the twenty-second storm, thirteenth *hurricane, sixth major hurricane, and fourth Category 5 hurricane of the record-breaking 2005 season"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Wilma This has happened a number of time this year. Check out the Meto data on tropical cyclones. They separate themselves out almost as if they are acoustic or light waves. There is a sequence of similar things happening right now in the North tlantic. I postd a few charts of it on a MSN site I have had for a while: http://groups.msn.com/Weatherlore/sh...oto&PhotoID=12 I haven't sorted them out very well so check the charts for the dates on their legend. I have also been looking at their knock on seismic event which would be a logical stage if they are acoustic in nature, would it not? Pop over to sci.geo.earthquakes or alt.talk.weather. There is always room for a little more cross posting on usenet. Best retards. |
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On Aug 28, 5:14*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:09*am, "jonathan" wrote: "kT" wrote in ... http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/avn-l.jpg Anyone watching what is going on in the Caribbean? Living in Miami we watch every day this time of year. Do you think they will merge like the spots on Jupiter? I don't think that's likely, hurricanes always seem to be surrounded by high pressure areas which keep them spaced out. But when I looked today at the regional water vapor loop, I noticed the same thing you did, that they're 'stacking up'. Just like 05, one low pressure system right after another. But I have to emphasize again what has changed in the last few years. It's their size, the size of the eye is very important to watch. Tropical storm Fay had an eye over a hundred miles across, just like Katrina and Wilma and several other recent storms. Remember, the eye shows how much heat energy is stored. *These storms are easily two or three times as large as what is typical. And that doesn't mean two or three times more potential energy, the energy is squared, not multiplied as the eye increases. Look at the last radar image of Andrew, it's eye is about the size of Miami.http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/1992andy.JPG Look at the eye of Wilma, almost the size of the ...state.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:W...dfallRadar.png Both reached category 5, but they need to be in two entirely different classes of storms imho. Global warming means hurricanes are now normally the supers. The large eye means a potential for rapid strengthing and maximum speeds. Wilma went from a 80 knot storm that was expected to fall apart once it made landfall, to 135 knot monster in ....THREE HOURS. *And it did that overnight which is rather unusual. *One storm off the coast of Florida in 05 increased 3 categories in 90 minutes just as it approached landfall. And what this means is that landfall no longer means the storm will quickly dissipate as is usual. Fay just crossed Florida /three times/ without losing hardly any punch. Now, landfall just ****es 'em off. And they're too large and strengthen too quickly to run from them anymore. New Orleans is already talking about a complete evacuation from Gustav if it's follows the expected path. The problem is they have to decide 72 hours in advance. Anybody still remember the Great White Spot in the Pacific? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Ioke That was just a baby at 160mph~ The southern eye wall of Hurricane Wilma passed 40 miles north of my house. "Hurricane Wilma was the most intense hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic basin. In a 30 hour period, the pressure dropped from 982 mbar to the record-low of 882 mbar, while the winds increased to 185 mph (300 km/h). Wilma was the twenty-second storm, thirteenth *hurricane, sixth major hurricane, and fourth Category 5 hurricane of the record-breaking 2005 season"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Wilma This has happened a number of time this year. Check out the Meto data on tropical cyclones. They separate themselves out almost as if they are acoustic or light waves. There is a sequence of similar things happening right now in the North tlantic. I postd a few charts of it on a MSN site I have had for a while:http://groups.msn.com/Weatherlore/sh...howPhoto&Photo... I haven't sorted them out very well so check the charts for the dates on their legend. I have also been looking at their knock on seismic event which would be a logical stage if they are acoustic in nature, would it not? Pop over to sci.geo.earthquakes or alt.talk.weather. There is always room for a little more cross posting on usenet. They are not alown: http://groups.msn.com/Weatherlore/sh...oto&PhotoID=13 |
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Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Aug 28, 5:14 am, Weatherlawyer wrote: On Aug 28, 1:09 am, "jonathan" wrote: "kT" wrote in ... http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/avn-l.jpg Anyone watching what is going on in the Caribbean? Living in Miami we watch every day this time of year. Do you think they will merge like the spots on Jupiter? I don't think that's likely, hurricanes always seem to be surrounded by high pressure areas which keep them spaced out. But when I looked today at the regional water vapor loop, I noticed the same thing you did, that they're 'stacking up'. Just like 05, one low pressure system right after another. But I have to emphasize again what has changed in the last few years. It's their size, the size of the eye is very important to watch. Tropical storm Fay had an eye over a hundred miles across, just like Katrina and Wilma and several other recent storms. Remember, the eye shows how much heat energy is stored. These storms are easily two or three times as large as what is typical. And that doesn't mean two or three times more potential energy, the energy is squared, not multiplied as the eye increases. Look at the last radar image of Andrew, it's eye is about the size of Miami.http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/1992andy.JPG Look at the eye of Wilma, almost the size of the ...state.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:W...dfallRadar.png Both reached category 5, but they need to be in two entirely different classes of storms imho. Global warming means hurricanes are now normally the supers. The large eye means a potential for rapid strengthing and maximum speeds. Wilma went from a 80 knot storm that was expected to fall apart once it made landfall, to 135 knot monster in ....THREE HOURS. And it did that overnight which is rather unusual. One storm off the coast of Florida in 05 increased 3 categories in 90 minutes just as it approached landfall. And what this means is that landfall no longer means the storm will quickly dissipate as is usual. Fay just crossed Florida /three times/ without losing hardly any punch. Now, landfall just ****es 'em off. And they're too large and strengthen too quickly to run from them anymore. New Orleans is already talking about a complete evacuation from Gustav if it's follows the expected path. The problem is they have to decide 72 hours in advance. Anybody still remember the Great White Spot in the Pacific? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Ioke That was just a baby at 160mph~ The southern eye wall of Hurricane Wilma passed 40 miles north of my house. "Hurricane Wilma was the most intense hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic basin. In a 30 hour period, the pressure dropped from 982 mbar to the record-low of 882 mbar, while the winds increased to 185 mph (300 km/h). Wilma was the twenty-second storm, thirteenth hurricane, sixth major hurricane, and fourth Category 5 hurricane of the record-breaking 2005 season"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Wilma This has happened a number of time this year. Check out the Meto data on tropical cyclones. They separate themselves out almost as if they are acoustic or light waves. There is a sequence of similar things happening right now in the North tlantic. I postd a few charts of it on a MSN site I have had for a while:http://groups.msn.com/Weatherlore/sh...howPhoto&Photo... I haven't sorted them out very well so check the charts for the dates on their legend. I have also been looking at their knock on seismic event which would be a logical stage if they are acoustic in nature, would it not? Pop over to sci.geo.earthquakes or alt.talk.weather. There is always room for a little more cross posting on usenet. They are not alown: http://groups.msn.com/Weatherlore/sh...oto&PhotoID=13 Looking at it today I see what you mean, these things are just rolling off the ends of periodic density waves in the atmosphere, a la Jupiter. |
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