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Old August 21st 04, 04:12 AM
Skybuck Flying
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Hi,

For a couple of days now I have been noticing a very bright white light in
the sky at night at around 5:00 am.

I am located in the netherlands.

I doesn't really look like a start to me... It's way to bright. Also I
checked at about 2:00 or 3:00 am and the light wasn't there yet ?

I can think of 3 possibilities:

1. It's a star a very bright one and stars move at night that's why I
don't see it at 2 or 3 am.

2. It's the international space station being lit by the sun.

3. It's a plane or something that flies that same router and has a very
bright light. This is unlikely since it hardly moves.

I know the nothern polar star or something like that is very bright... but
it's it supposed to be near the moon or something ? hehe.

I am little baffled about that light.

If it really is the international space station then I would call this
'stars at night horizon pollution' Maybe a thing to come for the future


If it really is a star then that's on bright star !

Bye,
Skybuck.


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Old August 21st 04, 04:59 AM
Algomeysa2
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4. Venus.

"Skybuck Flying" wrote in message
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Hi,

For a couple of days now I have been noticing a very bright white light in
the sky at night at around 5:00 am.

I am located in the netherlands.

I doesn't really look like a start to me... It's way to bright. Also I
checked at about 2:00 or 3:00 am and the light wasn't there yet ?

I can think of 3 possibilities:

1. It's a star a very bright one and stars move at night that's why I
don't see it at 2 or 3 am.

2. It's the international space station being lit by the sun.

3. It's a plane or something that flies that same router and has a very
bright light. This is unlikely since it hardly moves.

I know the nothern polar star or something like that is very bright... but
it's it supposed to be near the moon or something ? hehe.

I am little baffled about that light.

If it really is the international space station then I would call this
'stars at night horizon pollution' Maybe a thing to come for the future


If it really is a star then that's on bright star !

Bye,
Skybuck.




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Old August 21st 04, 05:20 AM
Thomas Cuny
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Algomeysa2 wrote:

4. Venus.


It is not Venus. It is the morning star.

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Old August 21st 04, 05:22 AM
Mad Scientist
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Skybuck Flying wrote:

Hi,

For a couple of days now I have been noticing a very bright white light in
the sky at night at around 5:00 am.

I am located in the netherlands.

I doesn't really look like a start to me... It's way to bright. Also I
checked at about 2:00 or 3:00 am and the light wasn't there yet ?

I can think of 3 possibilities:

1. It's a star a very bright one and stars move at night that's why I
don't see it at 2 or 3 am.

2. It's the international space station being lit by the sun.

3. It's a plane or something that flies that same router and has a very
bright light. This is unlikely since it hardly moves.

I know the nothern polar star or something like that is very bright... but
it's it supposed to be near the moon or something ? hehe.

I am little baffled about that light.

If it really is the international space station then I would call this
'stars at night horizon pollution' Maybe a thing to come for the future


If it really is a star then that's on bright star !

Bye,
Skybuck.



Venus is appearing brighter than normal these days because our whole
solar system is goning through electromagnetic changes caused by
illumination changes in the sun which is being triggered by extra-solar
events. Just in case you wanted to know why Venus is so bright these
days. If the theory of electromagnetic solar-system wide changes (which
are also seen most noticeably in the behaviour of Saturn and its Ring
system, and Jupiter and really all the other planets) is correct, Venus
will continue to grow in overall 'magnitude' of brightness.

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Old August 21st 04, 05:32 AM
Paul Lawler
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"Skybuck Flying" wrote in
:

Hi,

For a couple of days now I have been noticing a very bright white
light in the sky at night at around 5:00 am.


It is the planet Venus.

I doesn't really look like a start to me... It's way to bright. Also I
checked at about 2:00 or 3:00 am and the light wasn't there yet ?


That's because it's not a star, it's a planet.

I can think of 3 possibilities:

1. It's a star a very bright one and stars move at night that's why
I don't see it at 2 or 3 am.

2. It's the international space station being lit by the sun.

3. It's a plane or something that flies that same router and has a
very bright light. This is unlikely since it hardly moves.


Three interesting guesses... at least you didn't say UFO.

I know the nothern polar star or something like that is very bright...
but it's it supposed to be near the moon or something ? hehe.


No, Polaris (the northern polar star) is only the 47th brightest star in
your sky (49th if you include Alpha and Beta Centauri, which are not
visible from the Netherlands).

I am little baffled about that light.

If it really is the international space station then I would call this
'stars at night horizon pollution' Maybe a thing to come for the
future


You certainly can see the International Space Station, but it moves
fairly rapidly (much faster than an airplane). You can find out when it
will next be visible to you at http://www.heavens-above.com.

If it really is a star then that's on bright star !


Well... it really is one bright planet. The brightest in fact.
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Old August 21st 04, 05:53 AM
Paul Lawler
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Mad Scientist wrote in
et.cable.rogers.com:

Venus is appearing brighter than normal these days because our whole
solar system is goning through electromagnetic changes caused by
illumination changes in the sun which is being triggered by
extra-solar events. Just in case you wanted to know why Venus is so
bright these days. If the theory of electromagnetic solar-system wide
changes (which are also seen most noticeably in the behaviour of
Saturn and its Ring system, and Jupiter and really all the other
planets) is correct, Venus will continue to grow in overall
'magnitude' of brightness.


Actually, Venus is appearing brighter these days because it is closer to
us. In a couple of months when it is farther away from us it will appear
dimmer (thus invalidating your theory of electromagnetic solar-system wide
changes). Before you deride me as a know nothing, I suggest you wait a
couple of months and observe for yourself.
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Old August 21st 04, 06:12 AM
Mad Scientist
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Paul Lawler wrote:

Mad Scientist wrote in
et.cable.rogers.com:

Venus is appearing brighter than normal these days because our whole
solar system is goning through electromagnetic changes caused by
illumination changes in the sun which is being triggered by
extra-solar events. Just in case you wanted to know why Venus is so
bright these days. If the theory of electromagnetic solar-system wide
changes (which are also seen most noticeably in the behaviour of
Saturn and its Ring system, and Jupiter and really all the other
planets) is correct, Venus will continue to grow in overall
'magnitude' of brightness.



Actually, Venus is appearing brighter these days because it is closer to
us. In a couple of months when it is farther away from us it will appear
dimmer (thus invalidating your theory of electromagnetic solar-system wide
changes).


Even if they are elliptical in orbits, still doesn't explain why Venus
appears brighter, since it is farther away from the sun, where it gets
its light from. Physicists say that the reason the outer planets are so
dim to the naked eye is because they are so far away from us, meaning
the farther out they are from the sun, the less easily they are spotted
by the naked eye. And if distance from the sun had anything to do with
magnitude, truly, just to play devils advocate, Mercury would be
immensely bright because it is so close to the sun. In other words I
disagree with you when you suggeset that such a small distance change
due to orbit could result in such a magnitude increase which is
remarkably noticeable to the naked eye amateur astronomer. I wouldn't
doubt that Venus will increasingly become noticeable extending into more
and more daylight hours as the electromagnetic changes increase with
time. And your assertion that electromagnetic solar-system wide changes
is invalidated by my claim, does not change one bit. Luminosity changes
in the sun are already taking place, and Auroral activity in the
ionasphere is also just one small effect which is and will be noticed
throughout the entire solar system. These luminosity changes within the
sun triggered by extra-solar events, will also effect the magnitude or
overall brightness of the moon as well, which others have
noticed,(flashlights being hardly useful anymore during a full moon for
example) and all the other planets, not just Venus and this has been
noticed by many observers.


Before you deride me as a know nothing, I suggest you wait a
couple of months and observe for yourself.



Well stop deriding me for knowing 'nothing' and your respect will be
returned in kind. Those are the rules I play by.

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Old August 21st 04, 06:13 AM
Skybuck Flying
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"Paul Lawler" wrote in message
. 125.201...
"Skybuck Flying" wrote in
:

Hi,

For a couple of days now I have been noticing a very bright white
light in the sky at night at around 5:00 am.


It is the planet Venus.

I doesn't really look like a start to me... It's way to bright. Also I
checked at about 2:00 or 3:00 am and the light wasn't there yet ?


That's because it's not a star, it's a planet.

I can think of 3 possibilities:

1. It's a star a very bright one and stars move at night that's why
I don't see it at 2 or 3 am.

2. It's the international space station being lit by the sun.

3. It's a plane or something that flies that same router and has a
very bright light. This is unlikely since it hardly moves.


Three interesting guesses... at least you didn't say UFO.

I know the nothern polar star or something like that is very bright...
but it's it supposed to be near the moon or something ? hehe.


No, Polaris (the northern polar star) is only the 47th brightest star in
your sky (49th if you include Alpha and Beta Centauri, which are not
visible from the Netherlands).

I am little baffled about that light.

If it really is the international space station then I would call this
'stars at night horizon pollution' Maybe a thing to come for the
future


You certainly can see the International Space Station, but it moves
fairly rapidly (much faster than an airplane). You can find out when it
will next be visible to you at http://www.heavens-above.com.

If it really is a star then that's on bright star !


Well... it really is one bright planet. The brightest in fact.


Ok I was a bit afraid I would get responses like:

"Ofcourse there are lights in the sky, those are called 'stars' stupid."

I didn't occur to me that it might be a planet... now that I read this I can
believe it...

Since I euhm heard something like this before about planets being visible at
night because they were close by and stuff like that.

Also what you mention about the space station being visible is cool.. I was
wondering about that.

At one night I was looking up and I see this white dot in the sky falling
really smoothly across the sky indeed much faster than a plane.

It went so smooth I thought to myself that must be some kind of satelite...
I think this was somewhere in 1999 up to maybe 2001.

I am not sure if the international space station was already being
constructed then ?

If not maybe it was mir or something other satelite ? or maybe my date is
wrong.

Anyway it went by very fast... I don't really have the patience to look at
the sky for more than a minute...

So seeing the international space station fly by will require very exact
timing for me and no clouds though sun shining on it etc

I think it's good that I mentioned too that the light was first not there
and later it was there.... what does that mean exactly ?

Like in the middle ages we would say the planet moved across the sky.... but
eum... we know earth rotates ?

So that would mean that all the other stars rotate as well... so that means
the stars and the venus the planet simply rotated into my sight from my
window

Hmm it would be cool if I could write a pager... that pages me a minute
before the space station flies over

I did look at the webpage... but I dont understand it... I dont know what my
coordinates are

Bye,
Skybuck.


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Old August 21st 04, 06:13 AM
Mad Scientist
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Skybuck Flying wrote:

"Paul Lawler" wrote in message
. 125.201...

"Skybuck Flying" wrote in
:


Hi,

For a couple of days now I have been noticing a very bright white
light in the sky at night at around 5:00 am.


It is the planet Venus.


I doesn't really look like a start to me... It's way to bright. Also I
checked at about 2:00 or 3:00 am and the light wasn't there yet ?


That's because it's not a star, it's a planet.


I can think of 3 possibilities:

1. It's a star a very bright one and stars move at night that's why
I don't see it at 2 or 3 am.

2. It's the international space station being lit by the sun.

3. It's a plane or something that flies that same router and has a
very bright light. This is unlikely since it hardly moves.


Three interesting guesses... at least you didn't say UFO.


I know the nothern polar star or something like that is very bright...
but it's it supposed to be near the moon or something ? hehe.


No, Polaris (the northern polar star) is only the 47th brightest star in
your sky (49th if you include Alpha and Beta Centauri, which are not
visible from the Netherlands).


I am little baffled about that light.

If it really is the international space station then I would call this
'stars at night horizon pollution' Maybe a thing to come for the
future


You certainly can see the International Space Station, but it moves
fairly rapidly (much faster than an airplane). You can find out when it
will next be visible to you at http://www.heavens-above.com.


If it really is a star then that's on bright star !


Well... it really is one bright planet. The brightest in fact.



Ok I was a bit afraid I would get responses like:

"Ofcourse there are lights in the sky, those are called 'stars' stupid."

I didn't occur to me that it might be a planet... now that I read this I can
believe it...

Since I euhm heard something like this before about planets being visible at
night because they were close by and stuff like that.

Also what you mention about the space station being visible is cool.. I was
wondering about that.

At one night I was looking up and I see this white dot in the sky falling
really smoothly across the sky indeed much faster than a plane.

It went so smooth I thought to myself that must be some kind of satelite...
I think this was somewhere in 1999 up to maybe 2001.

I am not sure if the international space station was already being
constructed then ?

If not maybe it was mir or something other satelite ? or maybe my date is
wrong.

Anyway it went by very fast... I don't really have the patience to look at
the sky for more than a minute...

So seeing the international space station fly by will require very exact
timing for me and no clouds though sun shining on it etc

I think it's good that I mentioned too that the light was first not there
and later it was there.... what does that mean exactly ?

Like in the middle ages we would say the planet moved across the sky.... but
eum... we know earth rotates ?

So that would mean that all the other stars rotate as well... so that means
the stars and the venus the planet simply rotated into my sight from my
window

Hmm it would be cool if I could write a pager... that pages me a minute
before the space station flies over

I did look at the webpage... but I dont understand it... I dont know what my
coordinates are

Bye,
Skybuck.


If you watch the skies every night, you will tiny little stars moving
across the sky every single night, there are so many satellites up
there. LOL

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Old August 21st 04, 06:20 AM
Skybuck Flying
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You certainly can see the International Space Station, but it moves
fairly rapidly (much faster than an airplane). You can find out when it
will next be visible to you at http://www.heavens-above.com.


Oh cool it has this database where one can lookup it's country and even the
town where one is at

So now I know my latidude and longitude and elevation ? what's that oh well.

Which I will keep secret to prevent a big bomb from falling right on top of
me


 




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