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I have been "quoted" by the local netkook (who can't spell) who wrote,
"Berndt sez Failure is an option". Of course I didn't say that. Failure is not an option. Failure is a fact of life. Almost 100 years of powered flight have shown we can't build an aircraft that doesn't crash. We can't build a car that guarantees the safety of its occupants in a crash. We can't build a ship that doesn't sink. Failure is a fact of life, and we ought to be thankful that there are those who will gladly stand on the shoulders of those who have gone before them and risk everything. We are where we are today in aviation because somebody pushed the flight envelope to expand our knowledge envelope. Some gave their lives in doing so and taught us even more about aircraft safety, or metal fatigue, or instability, or complacency, or oversight, etc. Jon |
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"Jon Berndt" wrote:
We can't build a ship that doesn't sink. The submarine community will be surprised to learn that... G D. -- The STS-107 Columbia Loss FAQ can be found at the following URLs: Text-Only Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq.html Enhanced HTML Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq_x.html Corrections, comments, and additions should be e-mailed to , as well as posted to sci.space.history and sci.space.shuttle for discussion. |
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Anyone who says "failure is not an option", does not completely understand
the problem. Al "Jon Berndt" wrote in message ... I have been "quoted" by the local netkook (who can't spell) who wrote, "Berndt sez Failure is an option". Of course I didn't say that. Failure is not an option. Failure is a fact of life. Almost 100 years of powered flight have shown we can't build an aircraft that doesn't crash. We can't build a car that guarantees the safety of its occupants in a crash. We can't build a ship that doesn't sink. Failure is a fact of life, and we ought to be thankful that there are those who will gladly stand on the shoulders of those who have gone before them and risk everything. We are where we are today in aviation because somebody pushed the flight envelope to expand our knowledge envelope. Some gave their lives in doing so and taught us even more about aircraft safety, or metal fatigue, or instability, or complacency, or oversight, etc. Jon |
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On 2003-09-11, Derek Lyons wrote:
"Jon Berndt" wrote: We can't build a ship that doesn't sink. The submarine community will be surprised to learn that... G D. ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH! Perfect logic, and that's almost as bad as some of the things I come up with! LOL. Steve |
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:52:29 -0500, "Jon Berndt"
wrote: We can't build a ship that doesn't sink. ....This is true. In anticipation of a Derek Lyons retort, I submit that a sub is not a ship, but a boat. OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr |
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OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org
wrote: "Jon Berndt" wrote: We can't build a ship that doesn't sink. ...This is true. In anticipation of a Derek Lyons retort, I submit that a sub is not a ship, but a boat. The submariners call it a "boat" and not a "ship". |
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OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org
wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:52:29 -0500, "Jon Berndt" wrote: We can't build a ship that doesn't sink. ...This is true. In anticipation of a Derek Lyons retort, I submit that a sub is not a ship, but a boat. 'Boat' is a slang term when referring to submarines. Were it an actual 'boat' (as the Navy terms such things) it would not have a hull number, a CO, or have 'USS' in front of the name it wouldn't have. D. -- The STS-107 Columbia Loss FAQ can be found at the following URLs: Text-Only Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq.html Enhanced HTML Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq_x.html Corrections, comments, and additions should be e-mailed to , as well as posted to sci.space.history and sci.space.shuttle for discussion. |
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In message , Derek Lyons
writes OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:52:29 -0500, "Jon Berndt" wrote: We can't build a ship that doesn't sink. ...This is true. In anticipation of a Derek Lyons retort, I submit that a sub is not a ship, but a boat. 'Boat' is a slang term when referring to submarines. Were it an actual 'boat' (as the Navy terms such things) it would not have a hull number, a CO, or have 'USS' in front of the name it wouldn't have. In that case, why does General Dynamics have an Electric Boat Division? |
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"Derek Lyons" wrote in message ... OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:52:29 -0500, "Jon Berndt" wrote: We can't build a ship that doesn't sink. ...This is true. In anticipation of a Derek Lyons retort, I submit that a sub is not a ship, but a boat. 'Boat' is a slang term when referring to submarines. Were it an actual 'boat' (as the Navy terms such things) it would not have a hull number, a CO, or have 'USS' in front of the name it wouldn't have. Has that changed? All PT Boats had a hull number and a CO (but they obviously did not have a USS or a name). Granted, PT Boats are no more, but I don't know about River boats, etc. (and as I recall, not an USN vessels are USS, correct? (like support vessels?) D. -- The STS-107 Columbia Loss FAQ can be found at the following URLs: Text-Only Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq.html Enhanced HTML Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq_x.html Corrections, comments, and additions should be e-mailed to , as well as posted to sci.space.history and sci.space.shuttle for discussion. |
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