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Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: My thoughts on whether or not to fly Shuttle, and the cult of : astronaut worship: : http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...UxNjE5MjM1OTE= Why am I not surprised it is on the National Review? Okay, to the article... Eric |
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:40:00 -0400, in a place far, far away,
h (Rand Simberg) made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: Rand Simberg ) wrote: : My thoughts on whether or not to fly Shuttle, and the cult of : astronaut worship: : http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...UxNjE5MjM1OTE= Why am I not surprised it is on the National Review? I would never try to imagine why you're surprised at anything, Eric. I'm surprised that you can find your way out of bed each morning. Errr...assuming that you actually do... |
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Jeff Findley ) wrote:
: "Rand Simberg" wrote in message : ... : My thoughts on whether or not to fly Shuttle, and the cult of : astronaut worship: : : http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...UxNjE5MjM1OTE= : I think you're on the right track he : What upset people so much about the deaths in Columbia, : I think, was not that they died, but that they died in : such a seemingly trivial yet expensive pursuit. They : weren't exploring the universe-they were boring a multi- : hundred-thousand-mile-long hole in the vacuum a couple : hundred miles above the planet, with children's science- : fair experiments. We were upset because space isn't : important, and we considered the astronauts' lives more : important than the mission. If they had been exploring : another hostile, alien planet, and died, we would have : been saddened, but not shocked - it happens in the : movies all the time. : It happens in history as well. We lost Grissom, White, and Chaffee on the : ground, yet everyone was determined to fix the problems and move foreword : with Apollo. They were heroes, pursuing the goal of landing a man on the : moon in a race with the Soviets. : For some reason, this generation seems to be rediscovering heroes. I'm sure : 9/11 was a huge wake up call that helped start this movement. But today, : astronauts are still regarded as heroes, but they certainly seem to lack a : heroic goal. Going round and round in LEO isn't it. Even going back to the : moon isn't it (been there, done that, thirty-seven years ago). : My question is this, is it even possible for NASA to find a truly heroic : goal for our heroic astronauts? It begs the question of finding real value in ISS and not just using it as a hotel and a life support center. At least with HST we are getting science. Eric : Jeff : -- : "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a : little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor : safety" : - B. Franklin, Bartlett's Familiar Quotations (1919) : . |
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Rand Simberg wrote:
I'm not sure there is (though an expedition to Mars or an asteroid might suffice). I'm also not sure that we should want to. I'd rather get people to think about space as a new frontier where all kinds of pioneers can go, and risk their lives for their own goals and purposes, rather than as a preserve for heroic government employees. I hereby propose that we give forty cubic acres of space to anyone who wants to pioneer it, provided that they liftoff on April 22nd aboard a Conestoga rocket. Anyone who can show that they or their ancestors have been abused by any earthly government also gets a mule. :-) Pat |
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Paul F. Dietz wrote:
And I *still* think a National Astronaut Cemetery would be a great idea. (Cut to image of the tiny graves of the Aerobee mice.) ;-) Pat |
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Pascal Bourguignon wrote:
Yes. All space-bound and space-based ventures should be tax-free. If you find a gold asteroid and import it on Earth: tax free! That's been thought of; the results for the world's economies aren't nice if it ever happens. Still, the importation could be made at record speed....several thousand mph in fact. Pat |
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:46:31 -0400, in a place far, far away, Pat
Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: Rand Simberg wrote: I'm not sure there is (though an expedition to Mars or an asteroid might suffice). I'm also not sure that we should want to. I'd rather get people to think about space as a new frontier where all kinds of pioneers can go, and risk their lives for their own goals and purposes, rather than as a preserve for heroic government employees. I hereby propose that we give forty cubic acres of space to anyone who wants to pioneer it, provided that they liftoff on April 22nd aboard a Conestoga rocket. Forty acres on the moon might be a little more appealling, if it weren't against the Outer Space Treaty... |
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I hereby propose that we give forty cubic acres of space to anyone who wants to pioneer it, provided that they liftoff on April 22nd aboard a Conestoga rocket. Forty acres on the moon might be a little more appealling, if it weren't against the Outer Space Treaty... Yes, but does that forty acres extend into the Lunar regolith regarding mineral rights? Whole piles of titanium down there. Pat |
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