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Yep, and it reminds me that I wanted to get one of the 7nm Halpha filters...
Stefan "Richard Crisp" schrieb im Newsbeitrag . net... http://www.sbig.com/sbwhtmls/announc...rowband_f2.htm looks like a great move from them. |
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get it!
"Stefan Lilge" wrote in message ... Yep, and it reminds me that I wanted to get one of the 7nm Halpha filters... Stefan "Richard Crisp" schrieb im Newsbeitrag . net... http://www.sbig.com/sbwhtmls/announc...rowband_f2.htm looks like a great move from them. |
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"Richard Crisp" wrote... http://www.sbig.com/sbwhtmls/announc...rowband_f2.htm looks like a great move from them. Richard, Thanks. I missed that one! I'll have to start saving my pennies!! The equipment available just keeps getting better and better. BTW: At NEAF the SBIG guys told me, that despite what the say officially, my old AO-7 *will* work on the smaller chip STL cameras, (like my 1301E) just not the 11k and 6303. I will need to have an adapter machined, and they said that if the software didn't work they would re-write CCDops so that it would. However, I still think I'll end up with an AO-L at some point, perhaps using one of SBIG's new OAG's or their new 'artificial star' technique. However, I already have a Lumicon giant OAG that might work. George N |
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"George Normandin" wrote in message ... "Richard Crisp" wrote... http://www.sbig.com/sbwhtmls/announc...rowband_f2.htm looks like a great move from them. Richard, Thanks. I missed that one! I'll have to start saving my pennies!! The equipment available just keeps getting better and better. BTW: At NEAF the SBIG guys told me, that despite what the say officially, my old AO-7 *will* work on the smaller chip STL cameras, (like my 1301E) just not the 11k and 6303. I will need to have an adapter machined, and they said that if the software didn't work they would re-write CCDops so that it would. However, I still think I'll end up with an AO-L at some point, perhaps using one of SBIG's new OAG's or their new 'artificial star' technique. However, I already have a Lumicon giant OAG that might work. George N That just underscores what I have been thinking for years which is that I never believe the spin from SBIG, especially from that lawyer guy they have for a mouthpiece. My operating assumption is that they just say whatever happens to suit their business agenda of the day and that's the sole criteria they use for making public statements. My opinion of course but that's how I see it. As a result, I always try to figure out the "angle" of their statements, because I think there always is one that isn't discussed. Back on the subject though, it appears to me that whatever marriage of convenience SBIG had with AstroDon may be out the window. According to something AstroDon told me about three years ago, they fought him tooth and nails when he first popped up on the filter scene and really tried very hard to prevent his products from being successful. When Don told me this he was complaining bitterly about it at that time; he was really ****ed off at them too, that was my key takeaway from that conversation. But market forces prevailed and he managed to overcome their resistance, presumably due to a lack of viable competition at the time in my opinion. But now it looks to me that he has some credible competition that just happens to be the German Dealer for SBIG and it sure looks to me that Goldman may be on his way out at SBIG. For example they don't even list his 50mm filters on their pricelist anymore, at least I couldn't find them (I looked) today (July 3,2007) http://www.sbig.com/sbwhtmls/Pricelist_u.htm I applaud that development because I think his filters are way overpriced for the quality and performance delivered. I see nothing exceptional about his filters other than the price: which is ridiculously expensive in my opinion. I used a set for over two years so I have lots of experience using them. I say the buying public is the big winner the it has been prohibitively expensive for many people to try emission line color imaging until now. But now that Baader is establishing a new price point in the industry, it looks no more expensive to do tricolor emission line imaging than RGB, or very close to the same price. That's really a very positive development in my opinion. I'm sure glad I unloaded my set of AstroDon emission line filters before this new price point was established. I wonder how much longer he will be able to get top dollar for those filters and how much longer a person can still unload their AD narrowbands and still get close to what they paid for them. |
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"Richard Crisp" wrote BTW: At NEAF the SBIG guys told me, that despite what the say officially, my old AO-7 *will* work on the smaller chip STL cameras, (like my 1301E) just not the 11k and 6303. I will need to have an adapter machined, and they said that if the software didn't work they would re-write CCDops so that it would. Richard, Just to clarify: Alan H and the other SBIG guys said that they thought that CCDops already had the ability to operate an AO-7 attached to an STL camera, but just in case it does not, they would be willing to add that capability for me. I'm still not sure that is the way to go, but they recommended it as being cheaper than selling the AO-7 (along with my old ST-9) and buying an AO-L, and just as functional with a 1301E. I assumed that SBIG's "AO-7 won't work on an STL" stance was taken because that is correct for the two biggest chips. Also the AO-7 produces some sort of error (rotation?) that only becomes appearent on really big chips. In any event: I'm all for "cheap is best"! Since I already have an AO-7 and I can get a friend to machine the adapter, I might as will try it. SBIG also recommended keeping the ST-9E and using it as a seperate guide camera rather than purchase of one of the guide heads. However that may be too much heavy equipment for me to deal with since I have to set everything up each time. ....That just underscores what I have been thinking for years which is that I never believe the spin from SBIG, especially from that lawyer guy they have for a mouthpiece. Lawyers at SBIG? I thought that FLI was the New York based camera maker! FLI should be the ones with the lawyers - considering how many we have here in New York!! ....... I say the buying public is the big winner the it has been prohibitively expensive for many people to try emission line color imaging until now. But now that Baader is establishing a new price point in the industry, it looks no more expensive to do tricolor emission line imaging than RGB, or very close to the same price. That's really a very positive development in my opinion........... I have two friends who have been big fans of Baader products of all types. They've not found any defects in their produces, despite the substantially lower prices. I've not tried their stuff myself, but I certainly would consider buying from them. Let competition rule!! Clear skies, George Normandin |
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the us has half the lawyers in the world
california has half the lawyers in the us "George Normandin" wrote in message ... "Richard Crisp" wrote BTW: At NEAF the SBIG guys told me, that despite what the say officially, my old AO-7 *will* work on the smaller chip STL cameras, (like my 1301E) just not the 11k and 6303. I will need to have an adapter machined, and they said that if the software didn't work they would re-write CCDops so that it would. Richard, Just to clarify: Alan H and the other SBIG guys said that they thought that CCDops already had the ability to operate an AO-7 attached to an STL camera, but just in case it does not, they would be willing to add that capability for me. I'm still not sure that is the way to go, but they recommended it as being cheaper than selling the AO-7 (along with my old ST-9) and buying an AO-L, and just as functional with a 1301E. I assumed that SBIG's "AO-7 won't work on an STL" stance was taken because that is correct for the two biggest chips. Also the AO-7 produces some sort of error (rotation?) that only becomes appearent on really big chips. In any event: I'm all for "cheap is best"! Since I already have an AO-7 and I can get a friend to machine the adapter, I might as will try it. SBIG also recommended keeping the ST-9E and using it as a seperate guide camera rather than purchase of one of the guide heads. However that may be too much heavy equipment for me to deal with since I have to set everything up each time. ....That just underscores what I have been thinking for years which is that I never believe the spin from SBIG, especially from that lawyer guy they have for a mouthpiece. Lawyers at SBIG? I thought that FLI was the New York based camera maker! FLI should be the ones with the lawyers - considering how many we have here in New York!! ....... I say the buying public is the big winner the it has been prohibitively expensive for many people to try emission line color imaging until now. But now that Baader is establishing a new price point in the industry, it looks no more expensive to do tricolor emission line imaging than RGB, or very close to the same price. That's really a very positive development in my opinion........... I have two friends who have been big fans of Baader products of all types. They've not found any defects in their produces, despite the substantially lower prices. I've not tried their stuff myself, but I certainly would consider buying from them. Let competition rule!! Clear skies, George Normandin |
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