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On 11-07-17 03:26, Fred J. McCall wrote :
Alain wrote: Also, the fact is that you need to take into account both Special and General Relativity for GPS to work. The satellites are moving fast enough and are far enough out of the gravity well for both effects to be significant. The relevant equations of Special Relativity were originally from Lorentz, and Poincaré showed that they were applicable in real life so it isn't really Einstein's Special Relativity that is needed, it is Poincaré's Relativity. Poincaré used observations of Mercury's orbit for his work. And Einstein used Special Relativity to develop General Relativity and was also aware that tweaking gravitational laws was necessary to accommodate Mercury. Mercury was a proof, not a prerequisite. Go read Henri Poindcaré. It isn't a prerequisite, but it was instrumental in the development of his relativity which predates Einstein's Special Relativity. Of course you don't need to know about mass-energy equivalence to make vegetable soup but it still is important in our everyday lives. Is it? How? As I said, for instance GPS. GPS isn't about mass-energy equivalence. I wasn't talking specifically about mass-energy equivalence. GPS uses Special and General relativity. For usage of mass-energy equivalence in our every day lives, maybe your computer is connected to an electric grid. Maybe there is some nuclear power plant on that grid. You probably already knew about nuclear power plants. I think you are trolling, you are getting close to plonk territory. Another way that telescopes were useful for the discovery of nuclear energy is that Einstein and other scientists at the time were well aware of the "black energy" of that time. That is, they knew that the Sun could not have as an energy source something like burning coal. It wouldn't last long enough. So looking for large amounts of energy hidden within the atom wasn't completely out of nowhere. It also had nothing to do with telescopes. See my reply to Quadibloc. Alain Fournier |
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