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July 15th 06, 03:56 AM
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Why "Project Orion" is more vital now than ever
This from Sky and Tel;
"July 12, 2006 | If astronauts had been on the Moon in early August 1972, they would have been at best terribly queasy, and at worst -- dead. A burst of charged particles that suddenly erupted from the Sun would have caused severe radiation sickness, dosing any unlucky Moonwalkers with about 400 rem -- almost 50,000 times the radiation dose you get from a chest X-ray. Fortunately, the burst, known as a coronal mass ejection (CME), erupted during the months between Apollo 16 and Apollo 17, so no astronauts were harmed. But as NASA looks to return astronauts to the Moon and send them beyond to Mars, the health hazards posed by these solar explosions are a serious concern. . . " Project Orion could take all the equipment needed for a Moon base in one launch. Not the dozens it's going to take. They absolutely cannot afford to have men trotting around the Moon's surface exposed for weeks at a time. They have to erect the buildings and cover them with "soil" as fast as possible. S----- chemical rockets will NOT do the job. And as for Mars....he he he. Might as well just send them in coffins. 
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July 15th 06, 04:44 AM
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Why "Project Orion" is more vital now than ever
Rich wrote: This from Sky and Tel; "July 12, 2006 | If astronauts had been on the Moon in early August 1972, they would have been at best terribly queasy, and at worst -- dead. A burst of charged particles that suddenly erupted from the Sun would have caused severe radiation sickness, dosing any unlucky Moonwalkers with about 400 rem -- almost 50,000 times the radiation dose you get from a chest X-ray. Fortunately, the burst, known as a coronal mass ejection (CME), erupted during the months between Apollo 16 and Apollo 17, so no astronauts were harmed. But as NASA looks to return astronauts to the Moon and send them beyond to Mars, the health hazards posed by these solar explosions are a serious concern. . . " Project Orion could take all the equipment needed for a Moon base in one launch. Not the dozens it's going to take. They absolutely cannot afford to have men trotting around the Moon's surface exposed for weeks at a time. They have to erect the buildings and cover them with "soil" as fast as possible. S----- chemical rockets will NOT do the job. And as for Mars....he he he. Might as well just send them in coffins. How about a project Borion where we send all the space fanatics to Mars in one ship! Won't make it unfried - No Problem! No means of making a viable comminity on Mars at this time - no problem!
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July 15th 06, 10:33 AM
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Why "Project Orion" is more vital now than ever
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ps.com... Rich wrote: rockets will NOT do the job. And as for Mars....he he he. Might as well just send them in coffins. How about a project Borion where we send all the space fanatics to Mars in one ship! Won't make it unfried - No Problem! No means of making a viable comminity on Mars at this time - no problem! How about a project Borion where space fanatics personally fund the cost of sending themselves in on ship. Won't squander my tax dollars no problem. -- Hilton Evans ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lat +42° 11' 07" Lon -71° 04' 35" ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.chempensoftware.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://mysite.verizon.net/hiltonevan...troimaging.htm
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July 15th 06, 01:46 PM
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Why "Project Orion" is more vital now than ever
Rick Evans wrote: wrote in message ps.com... Rich wrote: rockets will NOT do the job. And as for Mars....he he he. Might as well just send them in coffins. How about a project Borion where we send all the space fanatics to Mars in one ship! Won't make it unfried - No Problem! No means of making a viable comminity on Mars at this time - no problem! How about a project Borion where space fanatics personally fund the cost of sending themselves in on ship. Won't squander my tax dollars no problem. -- Yeah...instead of your tax dollars getting spent on that stupid space stuff, they can continue to go to worthwhile projects like the Boston Big Dig, right? ;-)
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July 15th 06, 02:55 PM
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Why "Project Orion" is more vital now than ever
How about we take all those who are against any and all space projects, load
them into some planes and drop'm off on the north pole and let'm WALK back in the middle of winter without any extra supplys. -- The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond Telescope Buyers FAQ http://home.inreach.com/starlord Sidewalk Astronomy www.sidewalkastronomy.info Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net In Garden Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden Blast Off Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/starlords Astro Blog http://starlord.bloggerteam.com/ "Rick Evans" wrote in message news:xD2ug.119$pR4.69@trndny01... wrote in message ps.com... Rich wrote: rockets will NOT do the job. And as for Mars....he he he. Might as well just send them in coffins. How about a project Borion where we send all the space fanatics to Mars in one ship! Won't make it unfried - No Problem! No means of making a viable comminity on Mars at this time - no problem! How about a project Borion where space fanatics personally fund the cost of sending themselves in on ship. Won't squander my tax dollars no problem. -- Hilton Evans ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lat +42° 11' 07" Lon -71° 04' 35" ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.chempensoftware.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://mysite.verizon.net/hiltonevan...troimaging.htm
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July 15th 06, 02:56 PM
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Why "Project Orion" is more vital now than ever
Or to keep on funding the vietnam type wors GWB keeps getting us into.
-- The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond Telescope Buyers FAQ http://home.inreach.com/starlord Sidewalk Astronomy www.sidewalkastronomy.info Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net In Garden Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden Blast Off Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/starlords Astro Blog http://starlord.bloggerteam.com/ "RMOLLISE" wrote in message oups.com... Rick Evans wrote: wrote in message ps.com... Rich wrote: rockets will NOT do the job. And as for Mars....he he he. Might as well just send them in coffins. How about a project Borion where we send all the space fanatics to Mars in one ship! Won't make it unfried - No Problem! No means of making a viable comminity on Mars at this time - no problem! How about a project Borion where space fanatics personally fund the cost of sending themselves in on ship. Won't squander my tax dollars no problem. -- Yeah...instead of your tax dollars getting spent on that stupid space stuff, they can continue to go to worthwhile projects like the Boston Big Dig, right? ;-)
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July 15th 06, 04:17 PM
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Why "Project Orion" is more vital now than ever
Starlord wrote: How about we take all those who are against any and all space projects, load them into some planes and drop'm off on the north pole and let'm WALK back in the middle of winter without any extra supplys. Been essentially done! Try that in Mid space now - Your blood boils without your suit and there is no air to breathe -- The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond Telescope Buyers FAQ http://home.inreach.com/starlord Sidewalk Astronomy www.sidewalkastronomy.info Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net In Garden Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden Blast Off Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/starlords Astro Blog http://starlord.bloggerteam.com/ "Rick Evans" wrote in message news:xD2ug.119$pR4.69@trndny01... wrote in message ps.com... Rich wrote: rockets will NOT do the job. And as for Mars....he he he. Might as well just send them in coffins. How about a project Borion where we send all the space fanatics to Mars in one ship! Won't make it unfried - No Problem! No means of making a viable comminity on Mars at this time - no problem! How about a project Borion where space fanatics personally fund the cost of sending themselves in on ship. Won't squander my tax dollars no problem. -- Hilton Evans ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lat +42° 11' 07" Lon -71° 04' 35" ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.chempensoftware.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://mysite.verizon.net/hiltonevan...troimaging.htm
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July 15th 06, 05:29 PM
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Why "Project Orion" is more vital now than ever
You drop someone off at the North Pole in Winter time with out the needed
extra supplys of food and stuff and you know what you get? Frozen Human for desert. -- The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond Telescope Buyers FAQ http://home.inreach.com/starlord Sidewalk Astronomy www.sidewalkastronomy.info Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net In Garden Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden Blast Off Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/starlords Astro Blog http://starlord.bloggerteam.com/ wrote in message oups.com... Starlord wrote: How about we take all those who are against any and all space projects, load them into some planes and drop'm off on the north pole and let'm WALK back in the middle of winter without any extra supplys. Been essentially done! Try that in Mid space now - Your blood boils without your suit and there is no air to breathe -- The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond Telescope Buyers FAQ http://home.inreach.com/starlord Sidewalk Astronomy www.sidewalkastronomy.info Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net In Garden Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden Blast Off Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/starlords Astro Blog http://starlord.bloggerteam.com/ "Rick Evans" wrote in message news:xD2ug.119$pR4.69@trndny01... wrote in message ps.com... Rich wrote: rockets will NOT do the job. And as for Mars....he he he. Might as well just send them in coffins. How about a project Borion where we send all the space fanatics to Mars in one ship! Won't make it unfried - No Problem! No means of making a viable comminity on Mars at this time - no problem! How about a project Borion where space fanatics personally fund the cost of sending themselves in on ship. Won't squander my tax dollars no problem. -- Hilton Evans ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lat +42° 11' 07" Lon -71° 04' 35" ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.chempensoftware.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://mysite.verizon.net/hiltonevan...troimaging.htm
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July 15th 06, 05:50 PM
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Why "Project Orion" is more vital now than ever
"Starlord" wrote in message
... How about we take all those who are against any and all space projects, How about we not generalize criticism of one space project to opposition to all space projects. Borion any and all space projects. -- Hilton Evans ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lat +42° 11' 07" Lon -71° 04' 35" ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.chempensoftware.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://mysite.verizon.net/hiltonevan...troimaging.htm
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July 15th 06, 06:06 PM
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Why "Project Orion" is more vital now than ever
"RMOLLISE" wrote in message
oups.com... Rick Evans wrote: wrote in message ps.com... Rich wrote: rockets will NOT do the job. And as for Mars....he he he. Might as well just send them in coffins. How about a project Borion where we send all the space fanatics to Mars in one ship! Won't make it unfried - No Problem! No means of making a viable comminity on Mars at this time - no problem! How about a project Borion where space fanatics personally fund the cost of sending themselves in on ship. Won't squander my tax dollars no problem. -- Yeah...instead of your tax dollars getting spent on that stupid space stuff, they can continue to go to worthwhile projects like the Boston Big Dig, right? ;-) Nice try Rod, but where have you ever read me argue the merits of the Big Dig, its engineering choices or for that matter its absurd cost overruns. That said, from first hand experience I can say that the I-93 tunnel (not to be confused with the currently closed Ted Williams Tunnel) and Zakim bridge have significantly reduced traffic congestion and the accompanying air pollution in downtown Boston. And yes I do oppose spending money on "STUPID space stuff" such as Bush Moondoggle or the $100 billion and counting orbiting house trailer, while more intelligent scientific space projects are being cut left and right. -- Hilton Evans ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lat +42° 11' 07" Lon -71° 04' 35" ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.chempensoftware.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://mysite.verizon.net/hiltonevan...troimaging.htm
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