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We, first loosers for 100 years.
Just one strange idea: mankind don't have now space capabilities comparable
what we had 30 years ago. It seems it is first time mankind is "dropping back" in technology - or is there some other examples in history (well there was a time after collapse of Roman Empire when a lot of technologies were lost, but my post is about last 200-400 years) Best, Vello |
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"Vello" wrote:
Just one strange idea: mankind don't have now space capabilities comparable what we had 30 years ago. It seems it is first time mankind is "dropping back" in technology - or is there some other examples in history (well there was a time after collapse of Roman Empire when a lot of technologies were lost, but my post is about last 200-400 years) Nice thesis, but it founders on the rocks of reality. There isn't a capability that we had thirty years ago that we know don't have. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. |
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Derek Lyons wrote:
"Vello" wrote: Just one strange idea: mankind don't have now space capabilities comparable what we had 30 years ago. It seems it is first time mankind is "dropping back" in technology - or is there some other examples in history (well there was a time after collapse of Roman Empire when a lot of technologies were lost, but my post is about last 200-400 years) Nice thesis, but it founders on the rocks of reality. There isn't a capability that we had thirty years ago that we know don't have. Based on a loose definition of 30 years, the ability to launch a mission to the moon on a few months leadtime. |
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"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
... "Vello" wrote: Just one strange idea: mankind don't have now space capabilities comparable what we had 30 years ago. It seems it is first time mankind is "dropping back" in technology - or is there some other examples in history (well there was a time after collapse of Roman Empire when a lot of technologies were lost, but my post is about last 200-400 years) Nice thesis, but it founders on the rocks of reality. There isn't a capability that we had thirty years ago that we know don't have. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. Well, but we are in progress. Knowledge how to make concrete instead of bricks-stones was lost surely some period later then last Roman concrete building was erected:-) Today we have yet capabilities, but we lack will. Situation well comparable with last centuries of Pax Romana when people turn more on "dolce vita". And just by facts - at least for last centuries any generation had have in use technologies superior to what last generation had. Today we can't travel faster then 40 years ago, we can't go to Moon or in the deepest point of sea. Well, we think we could do all that if we will. But, probably, there is something wrong just with our "will". We don't will to go further any more? |
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Derek Lyons wrote: Nice thesis, but it founders on the rocks of reality. There isn't a capability that we had thirty years ago that we know don't have. Based on a loose definition of 30 years, the ability to launch a mission to the moon on a few months leadtime. Based on a loose definition of reality too... as we never had that ability. Each landing was the culmination of months and years of planning and training. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. |
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"Vello" wrote:
And just by facts - at least for last centuries any generation had have in use technologies superior to what last generation had. Today we can't travel faster then 40 years ago, And somebody in 1770 couldn't ride a horse any faster than the Greeks 20 centuries before. in 1870 we couldn't sail any faster than the Armada 400 years before... we can't go to Moon or in the deepest point of sea. Because we cannot do so on a moments notice does not mean that we cannot go if the desire and requirement exists. Well, we think we could do all that if we will. But, probably, there is something wrong just with our "will". We don't will to go further any more? No. There's simply no need to do so. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. |
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Derek Lyons wrote:
wrote: Derek Lyons wrote: Nice thesis, but it founders on the rocks of reality. There isn't a capability that we had thirty years ago that we know don't have. Based on a loose definition of 30 years, the ability to launch a mission to the moon on a few months leadtime. Based on a loose definition of reality too... as we never had that ability. Each landing was the culmination of months and years of planning and training. True. But any given mission could have been repurposed at a fairly short leadtime, if a big glowing "land here for membership of the Galctic Bowling League" sign appeared on the moon. |
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"Christopher M. Jones" wrote:
Derek Lyons wrote: "Vello" wrote: And just by facts - at least for last centuries any generation had have in use technologies superior to what last generation had. Today we can't travel faster then 40 years ago, And somebody in 1770 couldn't ride a horse any faster than the Greeks 20 centuries before. in 1870 we couldn't sail any faster than the Armada 400 years before... Strange as it may sound, both of those assertions are incorrect. Not all horses, nor all sailing vessels, are the same. Compare, for example, the speed of a Spanish Galleon (~8 kts) vs. the speed of a Yankee Clipper built centuries later (~18 kts). Strange as it may sound.. When you exclude edge cases and highly specialized craft... (I.E. the Clippers) you find my assertion correct. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. |
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