Terraforming Mars

wolfhedd wrote:
you must have missed my idea of placing possibly electromagnets in
the soil with enough power to counter act this, just an idea..... but
worth research it seems..

We can't even keep our own planet's eco system under control - no way we
can terraform some other planet or moon.

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now theres cinfidence for you in ones self. why do you think we cant keep
our own planet in control, because of overpopulation and lack of caring, so
obvoiusly your attitide towards is the exact kind of thing we need to avoid.
wolf

"Opus Penguin" wrote in message
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wolfhedd wrote:
you must have missed my idea of placing possibly electromagnets in
the soil with enough power to counter act this, just an idea..... but
worth research it seems..

We can't even keep our own planet's eco system under control - no way we
can terraform some other planet or moon.

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Pear pimples for hairy fishnuts?

If you enjoy reading science fiction, try the series, Red Mars, Green Mars,
Blue Mars.

Tom,
Tucson

"wolfhedd" wrote in message
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now theres cinfidence for you in ones self. why do you think we cant keep
our own planet in control, because of overpopulation and lack of caring,
so
obvoiusly your attitide towards is the exact kind of thing we need to
avoid.
wolf

"Opus Penguin" wrote in message
om...
wolfhedd wrote:
you must have missed my idea of placing possibly electromagnets in
the soil with enough power to counter act this, just an idea..... but
worth research it seems..

We can't even keep our own planet's eco system under control - no way
we
can terraform some other planet or moon.

--
____________________________
Pear pimples for hairy fishnuts?





Hmm, the concept of huge, localized electromagnets is actually quite good!
More effect may even be added by the metals in the crust of Mars.
There would be quite a battle between solar/cosmic forces and the localized
magnetic fields.
And how many magnets would be required to maintain an overall hospitable
atmosphere?

Yet in just such studies and implementations you may discover ways to
improve your own planet's ecosystems.
All in all, this idea of localized magnetic niches is exemplary.

Darla

Hi Darla It would be easier to get trees to grow on the Earth's south
pole than on Mars. The antarctic continent is the biggest continent,and
has plenty of water. Just putting say 10 large mirrors in orbit to
reflect the heat of the sun would melt the ice. Have to have our cities
built higher,and that is a good idea even now with the atmosphere
temperature rising. Putting magnets on Mars surface to create a global
magnetic field can't work . Bert

"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message
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Hi Darla It would be easier to get trees to grow on the Earth's south
pole than on Mars. The antarctic continent is the biggest continent,and
has plenty of water. Just putting say 10 large mirrors in orbit to
reflect the heat of the sun would melt the ice. Have to have our cities
built higher,and that is a good idea even now with the atmosphere
temperature rising. Putting magnets on Mars surface to create a global
magnetic field can't work . Bert


Creating a global magnetic field is not the aim, friend Bert.

The aim is to create localized niches of habitable Marsian surface.
I will not say whether or not this would work in practice.
There is much to learn from the attempt to formulate the concept into a
working theory.

And the electromagnets have already been proposed by Wolfhedd to be
installed Beneath the surface of Mars:

Wolfhedd wrote:
. . . my idea of placing possibly electromagnets in
the soil with enough power to counter act this, just an idea..... but
worth research it seems..

This presumably because the magnets would have to be huge and powerful, and
therefore a possible health hazard to humans in close proximity.

Mirrors to melt the antarctic ice? a touchy and dangerous proposition, Bert.
There is a delicate balance which keeps ocean levels and shorelines from
rising too fast, too soon.
If you throw off this balance with your 10 large orbiting mirrors, there
might be "hell to pay."

Darla

NO WAY, Leave our planet alone, please its overpoplualted, its reached its
sustainable growth limit, as dictated by food shortages and lack of fresh
water and too many damn people shoulder to shoulder, not enough wilderness
for solice. Of course there will be more water if we melt the caps, but
the temperature changes will kill off the desert that are in a fine
balance. Not to mention the ocean levels as Darla Mentions. alot Tropical
and coastal areas will be destroyed, and most of our(human and animal)
nutrition comes from
the coastlines and estuaries.
Thats why we can go to mars, alleviate some of the pain we
inflict on our mother earth. If we do any kind of experimenting, i suggest
we do it to another planet, like one that has potential like mars. Dont be
fooled by prosperous growth, its not really prosperous, it only takes from
another part of teh world. i am an arctic expeditioner, where am i supposed
to go when its all gone, and then we will still be looking to mars. So why
beat a dead horse. Especially when we are already on our way to mars?
Thanks Darla too, i thought or hoped somebody might see the benefit of
electromagnets.
wolf

"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message
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Hi Darla It would be easier to get trees to grow on the Earth's south
pole than on Mars. The antarctic continent is the biggest continent,and
has plenty of water. Just putting say 10 large mirrors in orbit to
reflect the heat of the sun would melt the ice. Have to have our cities
built higher,and that is a good idea even now with the atmosphere
temperature rising. Putting magnets on Mars surface to create a global
magnetic field can't work . Bert

On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 18:40:52 -0700, "Cotton Spandey"
wrote:

If you planted any single seed at all on mars, within 20 years, the entire
planet would be a flourishing bisophere, and the temperature would be within
earth-like ranges.

Mark my words.


mark them with what?

how activce is the earth's biosphere way up in the stratosphere?
that'd be the partial gas pressure that any earth life would have to
operate with on Mars.
floushing biosphere? yeah. extremophiles like cold loving extreme
low pressure functioning bacteria. maybe.

loads and loads of inert heat trapping SF6, along with perfluoronated
short chain hydrocarbons like C4F10. several comet loads of water
would help too.

Hi Darla Well I said the cities would have to be raised. Well Darla
Mars has plenty of iron for making magnets. They don't have to be made
permanent,but could be electric magnets. They would be stronger. Still a
compass on Mars would point straight down (probably does today) the same
way a compass points straight down on the Earth's magnetic north pole.
My thoughts would be to build dome cities,and the dome made to only let
in helpful radiation. Have my pulse fusion invention that needs a large
dome anyway.,and make a Earth's atmosphere
kept at a temperature of 73F . The biggest problem that Mars has, even
for a large dome city is its soil that never had life. Here on Earth
the first 10 inches(top soil) keeps 6.2 billion people alive. Your
virtual friend Bert

I remember on an old cartoon called "Darkwing Duck", one of the villans
spliced himself with a tree so he could photosynthesize. I always thought,
"What a great idea!!!!". But, wouldn't you get too fat if you were into
going to the beach all the time?

Matty-o






"Dat's Me" wrote in message
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Green skin: Photosynthesis - although, how this'd work with fur I have no
idea. :-)