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Old December 26th 03, 07:46 AM
Ahab
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With so many probes failing, maybe a manned mission would be a better way to
collect information on Mars.

Probably more productive in the long run and lends towards gaining valuable
experience in doing future planet explorations.

We have to do it sooner or later anyways. Be more interesting to watch on TV
rather than wars, deaths and fear.

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Old December 26th 03, 08:05 AM
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I am all in favor of a manned expedition to Mars...
as long as the U.S. is not involved.

Menwith

Ahab wrote:

With so many probes failing, maybe a manned mission would be a better way to
collect information on Mars.

Probably more productive in the long run and lends towards gaining valuable
experience in doing future planet explorations.

We have to do it sooner or later anyways. Be more interesting to watch on TV
rather than wars, deaths and fear.

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Ahab


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Old December 26th 03, 04:03 PM
Dave & Janelle
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"Menwith" wrote in message
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I am all in favor of a manned expedition to Mars...
as long as the U.S. is not involved.


Why? They're the only ones currently capable of doing it.
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Old December 26th 03, 05:26 PM
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Ahab wrote:

With so many probes failing, maybe a manned mission would be a better way to
collect information on Mars.

(snip)

Sending humans to do planetary exploration makes less sense than doing
archeology with dynamite. One of the most important differences
between Earth and some other planet is that the other planet has not
been altered by Earth's life forms. When they can absolutely
guarantee the sterility of a manned mission it might begin to make
sense as an information gathering mechanism.

Manned missions to other planets are to science what grave robbers are
to archeology.

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Old December 27th 03, 06:48 AM
Ahab
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Manned missions to the moon didn't cause any problems there or here.

Such crude analogies. With your thinking, maybe we should just stay here on
earth and wait for the sun to blow up.

Manned explorations are inevitable.

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Ahab

"John Popelish" wrote in message
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Ahab wrote:

With so many probes failing, maybe a manned mission would be a better

way to
collect information on Mars.

(snip)

Sending humans to do planetary exploration makes less sense than doing
archeology with dynamite. One of the most important differences
between Earth and some other planet is that the other planet has not
been altered by Earth's life forms. When they can absolutely
guarantee the sterility of a manned mission it might begin to make
sense as an information gathering mechanism.

Manned missions to other planets are to science what grave robbers are
to archeology.

--
John Popelish



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Old December 27th 03, 07:00 AM
Ahab
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Why? They're the only ones currently capable of doing it.

I would think it require the combined efforts for the major world economies
to fund it.


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Old December 27th 03, 08:35 AM
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Default Manned explorations the way?

My message seems to have been garbled in
an internet storm, what I really meant was:
I am all in favor of a manned expedition to Mars...
as long as the U.S. --taxpayer-- is not involved.

Menwith

Dave & Janelle wrote:

"Menwith" wrote in message
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I am all in favor of a manned expedition to Mars...
as long as the U.S. is not involved.


Why? They're the only ones currently capable of doing it.
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http://www.daveboll.com/


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Old December 27th 03, 05:23 PM
Dave & Janelle
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"Menwith" wrote in message
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My message seems to have been garbled in
an internet storm, what I really meant was:
I am all in favor of a manned expedition to Mars...
as long as the U.S. --taxpayer-- is not involved.


Aha - IMHO that makes sense.

On paper, a manned mission to Mars is easily subsumed within NASA's existing
budget. In practice - has a large-scale NASA project *ever* come in within
budget?

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Old December 27th 03, 07:08 PM
John Popelish
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Ahab wrote:

Manned missions to the moon didn't cause any problems there or here.

Such crude analogies. With your thinking, maybe we should just stay here on
earth and wait for the sun to blow up.

Manned explorations are inevitable.


That they may be inevitable does not support the argument that they
are necessary. By the way, how can you know that the junk (and
biological contamination) we left on the Moon will not cause some
problems at some time in the future? At the very least, the
contamination will not be spread by wind. Such is not the case on a
planet with an atmosphere, like Mars. Again, you have the foresight
of a grave robber.

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John Popelish
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Old December 27th 03, 11:51 PM
Dave & Janelle
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"John Popelish" wrote in message
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That they may be inevitable does not support the argument that they
are necessary. By the way, how can you know that the junk (and
biological contamination) we left on the Moon will not cause some
problems at some time in the future? At the very least, the
contamination will not be spread by wind. Such is not the case on a
planet with an atmosphere, like Mars. Again, you have the foresight
of a grave robber.


So - we should stay home, because otherwise we will probably co-immigrate
with some bacteria? Earth has been exchanging organic matter with many other
celestial bodies for billions of years, via impacts.
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