Fun At The Cape

Hi folks, I'm posting from Florida, and just back last night from two days
at the Cape, seeing the exhibits there.

It was a lot of fyn, and we did get to see most of it all. The only relative
surprise was the ticket prices, about $53 US for it all, including one of
the bus tours ( As in '92, we did the shuttle tour, this time, we did the
then and now tour ). Turned out that said tickets were good for two days,
though, a good thing indeed.

So, from the rocket garden, the visitor's centre, the IMAX films ( We had
just enough time to see both The Dream Is Alive, which I first saw on a
day trp to Toronto for it in '85, and the ISS film, in 3-D, which really
worked for it very well ), the Saturn V centre, with some very nifty views
of the hardware, including the flown ASTP CM, and the unused CSM 119, and
the presentation there was cool, with a full sized LM dropping out of the
dark to a lunar scene, and the ascent stage lifting off from there.

The busses don't stop at the VAB anymore, makes sense, what with security
and that the Saturn V isn't outdoors right by it anymore, so no real call
to make a stop, but the view as we pass by is excellent, and you can see
all three OPFs, both crawlers, and one MLP.

The stop at SLC-34 was quite moving, as was seeing the astronauts memorial
wall, though on that one, it would be nice to add in the lost cosmonauts
( Not Geo's ones ! g ), too.

It was great to really have the time to do the place up well, as in '92,
she-who-was-to-be-my-ex and I had only about 5 hours available. And, it
was rather satisfying to be able to answer the g/f's questions, along
with a few from other folks. :-)

One driving tip, if you're there, and headed towards Tampa: I-4, near
Disney and west, mile 55-50, or so, had construction on it that made that
five mile stretch take an hour to get through, last night. Both ways.
Ugh.

The weather was excellent. No rain, and comfy.

Andre

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On or about 9 Feb 2004 16:04:21 GMT, Andre Lieven made the sensational claim that:
Hi folks, I'm posting from Florida, and just back last night from two days
at the Cape, seeing the exhibits there.

And you didn't visit? :-(

Seriously, try to hangout till Fri. Titan IV. :-)
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The only relative
surprise was the ticket prices, about $53 US for it all, including one of
the bus tours ( As in '92, we did the shuttle tour, this time, we did the

Do you believe its a fair price for what you get to see?

"Hallerb" wrote in message
...
The only relative
surprise was the ticket prices, about $53 US for it all, including one of
the bus tours ( As in '92, we did the shuttle tour, this time, we did the

Do you believe its a fair price for what you get to see?

No, because it requires payment for things that are of no interest.

Andre Lieven wrote:
... It was a lot of fyn, and we did get to see most of it all. The only relative
surprise was the ticket prices, about $53 US for it all, including one of
the bus tours ( As in '92, we did the shuttle tour, this time, we did the
then and now tour ). Turned out that said tickets were good for two days,
though, a good thing indeed.

The 2-day admission surprised me as well. A very Good Thing! How did
you find out about that? IIRC there is no mention that a ticket is good
for 2 days anywhere. I asked and found out, but they don't readily
volunteer that information. There's no mention of it on the website either.

So, from the rocket garden, the visitor's centre, the IMAX films ( We had

Did you get a chance to see the putative "art gallery" in the IMAX
building? I enjoyed that very much. The first day I was there KSC was
a madhouse. Wall-to-wall people. Turns out that it was a special day
for county residents to get in free or something. The "art gallery" was
empty. Some very nice work there. The problem, I think, is that
everyone's in a rush to see and do as much as possible so getting into a
more relaxed art-viewing mode isn't easy.

just enough time to see both The Dream Is Alive, which I first saw on a
day trp to Toronto for it in '85, and the ISS film, in 3-D, which really
worked for it very well ), the Saturn V centre, with some very nifty views
of the hardware, including the flown ASTP CM, and the unused CSM 119, and
the presentation there was cool, with a full sized LM dropping out of the
dark to a lunar scene, and the ascent stage lifting off from there.

I thought the LM dropping show was tacky. #1 on my list of things that
should be eliminated.

The busses don't stop at the VAB anymore, makes sense, what with security

It's also a hazardous place. Fueled SRB segments are in there. That
alone was enough reason to shut down the VAB to visitors. I remeber
going in there years ago on a previous trip.

and that the Saturn V isn't outdoors right by it anymore, so no real call
to make a stop, but the view as we pass by is excellent, and you can see
all three OPFs, both crawlers, and one MLP.

Are they still painting one of the MLPs?

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No, because it requires payment for things that are of no interest.

Scott I was asking the person who went. YES WE KNOW! that everything should be
free and if theres not enough donations it should be left to rot or be hauled
away

Here we have someone who went and I wionder if they thought it was worth the
money/

Two days is excellent because it really takes that long to see stuff

When I was there the historic tour was a driver and guide on a bus holding
perhaps 20 people max. Really nice guide and driver answered TONS of questions

LooseChanj wrote in
:
Seriously, try to hangout till Fri. Titan IV. :-)

That should be Saturday, its window is 1:21pm - 5:21 pm on the 14th.

Jeff Clark
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In article , dg411
@FreeNet.Carleton.CA says...
We had
just enough time to see both The Dream Is Alive, which I first saw on a
day trp to Toronto for it in '85

Are they still showing the faded and scratched print that I say about 7
years ago?


and the ISS film, in 3-D, which really worked for it very well

This is one of the very best "you are there" films I have ever seen.
Better than anything done in CinemaScope, better than anything done in
70mm, better than anything done in OmniMAX or (2-D) IMAX. Gosh, it is
even comparable to Cinerama.
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:48:34 GMT, Bruce Palmer
wrote:

The busses don't stop at the VAB anymore, makes sense, what with security

It's also a hazardous place. Fueled SRB segments are in there. That
alone was enough reason to shut down the VAB to visitors. I remeber
going in there years ago on a previous trip.

When I was there, ~18 months ago, the bus stopped at the old S-V area,
which served as a fenced-in tourist photo area for the VAB. Don't
they do that, anymore? I doubt that it matters; the building is so
huge that you lose all sense of scale, that close. I thought it was
much more impressive at first site, while approaching on the causeway
from the mainland.

BTW, my photo page has moved to http://www.pivot.net/~beady/KSC.html


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When I was there, ~18 months ago, the bus stopped at the old S-V area,
which served as a fenced-in tourist photo area for the VAB. Don't
they do that, anymore? I doubt that it matters; the building is so

That was a awesome stop hope they still stop there.

Is there ANY WAY to get in the VAB?