...Olympic Torch Begins Journey across China...will China burn in it's wake???

The largest protests in twenty years in Tibet are spreading
outside Tibet.

Tibet Protests Widen
http://www.miamiherald.com/519/story/459380.html


In two weeks, in of all places Tibet, the Olympic Torch relay begins
it's long journey across China to the Olympic stadium.

Will the Chinese army and police have enough troops to
put out all the fires the Torch is bound to light?


Jonathan


China banned YouTube the other day.
I wonder why?


Al Jazeera video of Tibet protests.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kfHvJioE_xY

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http://www.seasonsrelease.com/sr/vol1/3poemmychild.html

http://www.seasonsrelease.com/sr/vol...sintheway.html

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On Mar 17, 7:41 pm, "jonathan" wrote:
The largest protests in twenty years in Tibet are spreading
outside Tibet.

Tibet Protests Widen

http://www.miamiherald.com/519/story/459380.html

In two weeks, in of all places Tibet, the Olympic Torch relay begins
it's long journey across China to the Olympic stadium.

Will the Chinese army and police have enough troops to
put out all the fires the Torch is bound to light?

Given what has been happening, here's what I think the response of the
U.S. government should be, if the option is indeed still available.

Since foreign reporters have been expelled from Tibet - well, don't we
assume a bank robbery is in progress when the closed-circuit cameras
go out in a bank, and send the police?

So launch a pre-emptive strike against China's nuclear capability, and
then perform regime change.

If it turns out that it was just repression as usual, and not
genocide, well, the world is a better place without the Beijing
regime, just like it is without Saddam Hussein, and so that need not
distress us any more than the lack of WMDs in Iraq does.

Of course, it may already be too late. In which case, we will have
another Cold War; once again, nuclear weapons in the hands of tyrants
will force us to sit idly by while horrors like Hungary in 1956 and
Czechoslovakia in 1968 happen again.

John Savard

"Quadibloc" wrote in message
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On Mar 17, 7:41 pm, "jonathan" wrote:
The largest protests in twenty years in Tibet are spreading
outside Tibet.

Tibet Protests Widen

http://www.miamiherald.com/519/story/459380.html

In two weeks, in of all places Tibet, the Olympic Torch relay begins
it's long journey across China to the Olympic stadium.

Will the Chinese army and police have enough troops to
put out all the fires the Torch is bound to light?

Given what has been happening, here's what I think the response of the
U.S. government should be, if the option is indeed still available.

Since foreign reporters have been expelled from Tibet - well, don't we
assume a bank robbery is in progress when the closed-circuit cameras
go out in a bank, and send the police?



In order to receive the Olympics, Beijing pledged to improve
their policies on human rights. We could assume that pledge
is being broken. In fact, from day one, they never took any
steps at all. Yet the IOC, most govts and large corporations
are remaining silent. Why? Could it be the immense profits
these western entities see in the billion plus Chinese market?

But maybe you're right, human rights for a FIFTH of the planet
are unimportant, not worth losing any sleep over.
And maybe you're right, the only way to do a thing about....anything
these days is with bombs.

You are right, you are completely powerless in the face of such
opposition, such as with the largest dictatorship in the world, and
the largest corporations and economic powers in the world.
They rule us now, that is the promise of a successful Olympics
in Beijing. You fail to see their agenda, and our costs in the
future.

So, lets follow your advice, and let them do just whatever the
heck they like. Break any promise, abuse any human rights
and impose upon us the kind of capitalism practiced today in China.
Where the people have no say at all in anything, and must accept
whatever ..The Coca-Cola & Communism Corporation...feels
is appropriate to give us.

Ya, maybe you're right. Let's give up.
And place our future in their loving hands.



So launch a pre-emptive strike against China's nuclear capability, and
then perform regime change.

Of course, it may already be too late. In which case, we will have
another Cold War; once again, nuclear weapons in the hands of tyrants
will force us to sit idly by while horrors like Hungary in 1956 and
Czechoslovakia in 1968 happen again.


The last scenario is what happens when we listen to you.

There is a third possibility. Which is that the Chinese people
stand up and demand democracy. Change from within is always
the best possible alternative.

I'm merely pointing out the simple....mathematical fact that during
these Olympics, the Chinese people find the best possible conditions
for such peaceful internal change for quite some time. It may be decades
before another critical point like this comes along, where even a few
determined people can make a difference.

It was just a couple dozen monks that started the worst dissent in
China in over fifty years. Why was it so easy for them now???

Because of the govts hypersensitivity to anything that might blemish
their cherished Olympics, their cherished legitimacy.

Their actions are showing why such world-wide legitimacy should
be denied. Until China, or any country, is ruled by consent of the
people, they should not be given.....legal status.

That's what these Olympics are all about, we are about to say that
communism...dictatorships....repression...no human rights....abusive
economic systems are all just OK....legal....legitimate
.....ACCEPTABLE.

No they are not.

I'm not going to let China (BIG BROTHER) and Coca -Cola (BIG MONEY)
....write all the rules for our future without rasing a fuss.

But you go ahead and look the other way.


Jonathan


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