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On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 1:59:20 PM UTC-7, Gene DiGennaro wrote:
Some of us oldtimers here remember a fellow who went by the screename of OM. He was a cantankerous trollish fellow that knew his stuff but internet etiquette was certainly not his forte! He ruled this group for years. It is my sad duty to inform folks that OM aka Bob Mosley passed away today from complications due to diabetes. RIP Bob, we'll miss you. I will not miss him. He was rude and combative. Very poor manners. Not a gentleman. |
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Matthew Ota submitted this idea :
On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 1:59:20 PM UTC-7, Gene DiGennaro wrote: Some of us oldtimers here remember a fellow who went by the screename of OM. He was a cantankerous trollish fellow that knew his stuff but internet etiquette was certainly not his forte! He ruled this group for years. It is my sad duty to inform folks that OM aka Bob Mosley passed away today from complications due to diabetes. RIP Bob, we'll miss you. I will not miss him. He was rude and combative. Very poor manners. Not a gentleman. I miss him. He was indeed rude and combative and not a gentleman, but he made many contributions. When /Columbia/ was lost, he put together a web site that had a lot of information in one place that would otherwise have been spread over the web like debris. /dps -- But happiness cannot be pursued; it must ensue. One must have a reason to 'be happy.'" Viktor Frankl |
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I used to be a regular poster to the sci.space.* groups back when it was still Usenet and before there were kids and mortgages etc. Even won myself a coveted "I corrected Henry Spencer" t-shirt at one point.
Thought I'd pop in to have a look, and amongst all the cobwebs I found this notice of Bob's passing. Yes he could be infuriating at times, and his sometimes combative approach to discussion was not ideal. But personally I often felt much of that was for show. I'm very much saddened to hear that he is no longer with us. As others have said his effort and leadership in establishing the Columbia Accident FAQ over on sci.space.shuttle showed his genuine side. I'm a little late, but to quote Fred Haise..... "Farewell OM, and we thank you". Cheers, Justin Wigg |
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Here is a comment I had posted to this forum earlier this year:
========= ....the reason why SSH became a cesspool was never the fault of any one person in particular. I saw it to be the fault of the group as a whole. If there is ever a case (cyber or non) where one person is being abusively treated, then other members of the community have the opportunity to speak up to voice objection to such behavior. There is a critical mass where a certain number of people are acting abusively, and another certain percentage are choosing to remain silent on the matter, forming a tacit base of approval. THAT is when a turning point is reached and a community becomes toxic. The problem here was never OM as an individual. It was everyone who chose the path of not respecting all members. And it was everyone who remained silent, enabling such toxicity to persist. This is hardly a problem limited to this forum. Nor limited to Usenet. Nor limited to the web. It is a problem that has persisted throughout all of human history. ========= John Glenn died this week. He did not live a perfect life. But he lived a very disciplined, principled life. For me, that puts him into a category with folks like George Washington. Some people live their lives as role models. Others serve as examples of character traits to be avoided. And the line between the two is not always distinct. We are all capable of behavior on either side of that line. Every day we are faced with choices for which side to be on. But eventually those decisions quicken into our habits. And that is what defines us as our character. ~ CT |
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On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 1:59:20 PM UTC-7, Gene DiGennaro wrote:
Some of us oldtimers here remember a fellow who went by the screename of OM. He was a cantankerous trollish fellow that knew his stuff but internet etiquette was certainly not his forte! He ruled this group for years. It is my sad duty to inform folks that OM aka Bob Mosley passed away today from complications due to diabetes. RIP Bob, we'll miss you. In my book that asshole OM Bob Mosley is best forgotten. He was rude, obnoxious and antosocial, hiding behind a handle "OM" and not using his real name, probably paranoid about being physically attacked for all of the insults he posted. He is not even worth remembering. Rot in hell, asshole. |
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From Matthew Ota:
On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 1:59:20 PM UTC-7, Gene DiGennaro wrote: Some of us oldtimers here remember a fellow who went by the screename of OM. He was a cantankerous trollish fellow that knew his stuff but internet etiquette was certainly not his forte! He ruled this group for years. It is my sad duty to inform folks that OM aka Bob Mosley passed away today from complications due to diabetes. RIP Bob, we'll miss you. In my book that asshole OM Bob Mosley is best forgotten. He was rude, obnoxious and antosocial, hiding behind a handle "OM" and not using his real name, probably paranoid about being physically attacked for all of the insults he posted. He is not even worth remembering. Rot in hell, asshole.. Criticize a dead guy for being rude. And then sign off with "Rot in hell, asshole." Irony much? Another person who is no longer with us is George HW Bush. And while he too had his failings, he did uphold a vision of a world that was "kinder and gentler". I'd say that's an admirable goal worth pursuing. Today is the 50th anniversary of the launch of Apollo 8. TLI happened at 9:47:05 am Houston time. And not long after that, these astronauts became the first human beings ever to witness our planet as a whole. December 21st, 1968, fifty years ago today, our species experienced a singular shift in consciousness where the land we live on was no longer seen as fractured with borders. We came to know Earth as our own spaceship, with each of us as crewmembers, having our own duties to uphold. Our spaceship has a sensitive life support system, and it needs to be cared for. If there is one among us who treats the other crewmembers with cruelty, the kinder and gentler response for us to have is compassion. Understanding of how they got that way. And more importantly, not add to the cruelty ourselves. The Apollo 8 crew of Frank Borman, Jim Lovell and Bill Anders may have launched 50 years ago as homo sapiens. But they returned as homo sapiens+. Humanity had accomplished a singular step in our evolution as a species. The three of them returned with the hope that all of us would learn from what they learned, and that we would start to treat each other with respect and kindness as the standard. No longer harming each other. Well if you listen to the 50th anniversary talks they have given in 2018, you can hear how disappointed they are. We may have progressed in many areas. But in other areas we have stayed mostly the same. As a species, we have not progresses anywhere near as much as they had hoped. We can change this tomorrow if we want. Or more immediately, we have the power to collectively change this right now. Here on this forum there has been some severely nasty things that have been said and done. But that did not end with the most vocal among us having died off. It is still happening this year, in 2018. Still plenty of nastiness. Each of us has the potential to be horrible toward our fellow human beings. Our fellow ssh members. Imagine if, before clicking 'Post', we checked ourselves... If this person I am attempting to communicate with was a member of my crew on a spaceship on our mission, are these words I would present to them? Well Borman-Lovell-Anders would tell us that we actually are. We all are crewmates. ....and we can start right now to treat each other with the respect and kindness that are necessary for treating any fellow crewmember. December 21st fifty years ago today was the moment when we first attained this shift in consciousness. That we are all in this together. It is clear to me that this day was the singular most important day in the entire history of human spaceflight. And can be extended far beyond that. Today is a day that can be used as the anchor point for a New Epoch. It could be known as: - Before Whole Earth Awareness (BWEA) - After Whole Earth Awareness (AWEA) There was a time when primitive peoples understood the Earth to be flat. Some still believe this today. Not everyone will be able to make the shift in consciousness. Evolution has forks, and there will always be those who remain on the old path. But a critical mass have made the shift. And it is up to us to continue with this progress toward the point where it becomes the norm. Today marks "Year 50 AWEA", if you will. From the larger perspective of time, we have barely taken our first steps from the cradle. We have a bright future ahead, so long as we collectively decide to work toward that future cooperatively. There have been many who have been steadfastly confident that we can and will do that. One way to have an excellent reminder is to honor today as a Special Day. It could be called... - Whole Earth Day, - TLI Day, ....or maybe something else. It need not start as a UN Special Day, nor even a special day recognized by your entire town or neighborhood. It can start with each of us who cares about this shift to recognize it for ourselves.. And we can watch it grow from there. And it is quite fitting that the day is December 21st. This is the December solstice. The turning point of the Sun itself. So a perfect day to be celebrated as a turning point for all of humanity as well. ~ CT |
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On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 7:59:20 AM UTC+11, Gene DiGennaro wrote:
Some of us oldtimers here remember a fellow who went by the screename of OM. He was a cantankerous trollish fellow that knew his stuff but internet etiquette was certainly not his forte! He ruled this group for years. It is my sad duty to inform folks that OM aka Bob Mosley passed away today from complications due to diabetes. RIP Bob, we'll miss you. I have not been here since 2001. Sad to here about OM. |
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On 2020-07-17 8:40 AM, Bohica Johnson wrote:
On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 7:59:20 AM UTC+11, Gene DiGennaro wrote: Some of us oldtimers here remember a fellow who went by the screename of OM. He was a cantankerous trollish fellow that knew his stuff but internet etiquette was certainly not his forte! He ruled this group for years. It is my sad duty to inform folks that OM aka Bob Mosley passed away today from complications due to diabetes. RIP Bob, we'll miss you. I have not been here since 2001. Sad to here about OM. Here's a copy of an update I posted a while back in sci.space.policy: What goes for sci.space policy also goes for sci.space.history: If you haven't been following sci.space - sci.space.policy for awhile you should know the following: 1) Pat Flannery passed away in October 2011. 2) The "OM", Bob Mosley passed away in October 2015. 3) Fred McCall passed away in July 2019. 4) Henry Spencer left sci.space.* news groups nearly two decades ago but still posts on the ARocket Mailing List: https://www.freelists.org/archive/arocket/ 5) Mary Shafer never posts here anymore. I don't know what her status is these days. [It is said shes live in retirement and no longer posts after her husband died] 6) Rand Simberg left sci.space.* newsgroups for his own blog he http://www.transterrestrial.com/ 7) Herb Shaltegger left sci.space.* newsgroups for the forums at NASASpaceFlight dot com he https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php 8) Greg Moore has taken over moderation of the sci.space.tech sci.space.science newsgroups. They are pretty much exclusively news bulletins now from NASA and The Planetary Society, but you can still post there when Greg approves it. There is very little traffic here anymore. Most of the discussions have moved to the moderated web forums, like NASA Space Flight dot com (see above). Millennials look at newsgroups like my generation looked at punch cards! |
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