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Old September 24th 12, 01:22 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Paul Schlyter[_3_]
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:15:50 +0100, Dr J R Stockton
wrote:
Also, the Earth's axis does not point at Polaris, and is not likely

to
do so within the lifetime of any of us. It does point continuously

at a
slowly-moving point currently near Polaris, though.


However, the North Celestial Pole will approach Polaris until it gets
closest to Polaris around the year 2100, when it will be about half a
degree (= approx. one apparent lunar diameter) away from it. So
Polaris will become better and better as a pole star during the
entire remaining lifetimes of almost all of us.
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Old September 24th 12, 06:49 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sep 24, 1:22*pm, Paul Schlyter wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:15:50 +0100, Dr J R Stockton

wrote:
Also, the Earth's axis does not point at Polaris, and is not likely

to
do so within the lifetime of any of us. *It does point continuously

at a
slowly-moving point currently near Polaris, though.


However, the North Celestial Pole will approach Polaris until it gets
closest to Polaris around the year 2100, when it will be about half a
degree (= approx. one apparent lunar diameter) away from it. So
Polaris will become better and better as a pole star during the
entire remaining lifetimes of almost all of us.


The polar coordinates turn 360 degrees each annual orbit to the
central Sun and it is affirmed to a 100% observational certainty using
the sequence of images of Uranus -

http://www.daviddarling.info/images/...gs_changes.jpg

The polar coordinates act like a beacon for the Earth's orbital
behavior hence precession as it has previously been considered is
unhelpful in ways readers here must not realize.

Try again guys,raising your own standards is all that is needed to
make sense of the images above and it means setting old perspectives
aside and adopting peoper ones commensurate with the power of today's
imaging.This stuff is actually exciting in the proper hands !.

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Old September 24th 12, 08:13 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sep 24, 11:49*am, oriel36 wrote:

The polar coordinates turn 360 degrees each annual orbit to the
central Sun and it is affirmed to a 100% observational certainty using
the sequence of images of Uranus -


We don't need the wonders of modern imaging to tell us how Tycho
Brahe's version of the solar system worked, we just don't consider
that model helpful - we prefer the one by Copernicus.

John Savard
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Old September 25th 12, 08:10 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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This is long since gone past a joke - what happens is that the older
perspective of axial precession is getting in the way of the
observational certainty that the polar coordinates turn 360 degrees to
the central Sun by virtue that they are carried around by the orbital
behavior of the Earth,itself an entirely separate motion to daily
rotation.Were men serious about astronomy and this matter, which
includes the huge area of planetary climate, I would not have to talk
over science fiction fans or is there some prohibition against people
doing their jobs if indeed they are paid to be astronomers ?.

http://www.daviddarling.info/images/...gs_changes.jpg

Two separate axes are required to account for the seasons and why the
natural noon cycles vary and these two rotations to the central Sun
can be positively identified from time lapse footage and especially
from Hubble -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXPSFNZ9Q7E

It is time to move on this in an honest way,not the awful mess they
are now trying to create with rotation and plate tectonics without
referring to the astronomical principle and observation of
differential rotation in exposed rotating fluid compositions.





 




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