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Why did the Universe have a beginning but not God?
Why God Didn't Have a Beginning 09.01.2009 Source: Pravda.Ru URL: http://english.pravda.ru/science/mys...od_Beginning-0 By Babu G. Ranganathan We've all asked the question from the age of two. Why did the universe have a beginning but not God? If God didn't have a beginning why should the universe have a beginning. Couldn't the universe just have always existed? Why a need for God? The answer is found in understanding why the universe had to have a beginning. Science supports Einstein's claim that the universe is a closed system. That means it has finite energy. Even though energy cannot be created or destroyed (by any natural processes), over time the useful energy in the universe becomes more and more useless. This is known in science as the Second Law of Thermodynamics. If the universe were eternal then all of the energy would have become totally useless by now and I wouldn't be writing this article and you wouldn't be reading it either! Isn't the Second Law of Thermodynamics merely an expression of probability? Yes, but the probability is so high and certain that the odds of just one calorie of energy spontaneously defying the Second Law would be trillions times trillions to one, and the universe is made up of far more than just one calorie of energy! We know from the First Law of Thermodynamics in science that matter/ energy cannot be created from nothing by any natural process. Since the second law teaches us that the universe does not have the ability to have sustained itself from all eternity and first law teaches us that the universe could not have brought itself into existence, the only logical and rational conclusion is that a supernatural power (God) brought the universe into existence. Furthermore, the complexity and order in the universe logically points to a supreme mind. Disorder in the universe is because of chance but the high degree of order can only be rationally explained due to a supreme mind or intelligence. Natural laws may explain how the order in the universe operates, but mere undirected natural laws are insufficient to explain the origin of that order. Even in life, once there is a complete and living cell then the code and mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells. The problem is how did life come about when there was no already existing directing code and mechanism in nature. And what about the stars? Oh, yes, gravity may explain how the order found in the precise courses of trillions of stars is maintained, but gravity cannot explain the origin of that order! What about natural selection? Natural selection is a passive process in nature making sure that only the fit survive. Natural selection doesn't produce anything. It can only "select" from what is produced. Natural selection is not an energy converting and directing mechanism, and natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction and not before. God's nature doesn't require that He have a beginning. God is self- sustaining. The universe is not. And because the universe is not ultimately self-sustaining, the universe requires creation (a beginning) as well as a supreme designer and a supreme sustainer. In other words, the universe requires God. Ultimately, however, scientists concede that the Second Law of Thermodynamics will conquer the entire universe and the universe, if left to itself, will end in what scientists predict will be a heat death because all of the energy in the universe will reach a uniform state where no more work of any kind will be possible. Even a contracting and expanding universe would no longer be possible in such a state. This proves, as mentioned earlier, that the universe could not be eternal or otherwise it would have long ago reached this point of uniform energy decay or level. All of this simply supports the belief that an intelligent power outside of nature and the universe was responsible for its origin and order. Science cannot prove that we came about by creation or by chance processes, but educators and students should be free to investigate and make up their own minds as to which position the scientific evidence best supports. Belief in neither chance origins nor creation is necessary to the actual study of science itself. One can understand the human body and become a first class surgeon regardless of whether he or she believes the human body is the result of the chance forces of Nature or of a Supreme Designer. It takes faith to believe we're here by chance. It takes faith to believe we were created by God. The author, Babu G. Ranganathan, has a B.A. degree with concentrations in theology and biology and has been recognized for his writings on religion and science in the 24th edition of Marquis "Who's Who In The East". The author's website may be accessed at www.religionscience.com. Š 1999-2006. ŤPRAVDA.Ruť. When reproducing our materials in whole or in part, hyperlink to PRAVDA.Ru should be made. The opinions and views of the authors do not always coincide with the point of view of PRAVDA.Ru's editors. |
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Why did the Universe have a beginning but not God?
"Noah's Dove" wrote in message ... Why God Didn't Have a Beginning 09.01.2009 Source: Pravda.Ru URL: http://english.pravda.ru/science/mys...od_Beginning-0 By Babu G. Ranganathan We've all asked the question from the age of two. Why did the universe have a beginning but not God? If God didn't have a beginning why should the universe have a beginning. Couldn't the universe just have always existed? Why a need for God? The answer is found in understanding why the universe had to have a beginning. Science supports Einstein's claim that the universe is a closed system. That means it has finite energy. Even though energy cannot be created or destroyed (by any natural processes), over time the useful energy in the universe becomes more and more useless. This is known in science as the Second Law of Thermodynamics. If the universe were eternal then all of the energy would have become totally useless by now and I wouldn't be writing this article and you wouldn't be reading it either! ***God had a beginning. It is just that he existed before the beginning. Didn't think it was easy to understand God, did you? ***And whenever posing a question, don't give the answer. That is for those of whom you asked the question. |
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Why did the Universe have a beginning but not God?
Mark The cosmos never had nothing. It always had two intrinsic things
SPACE ENERGY & GRAVITY. That was all it needed to create all that6 is over infinite time TreBert |
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Measurement is finite. Zero is inverse infinity, not finite.
Measurement is finite. Zero is inverse infinity, not finite.
How would you know if the wavelength were truly zero or not ? |
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Measurement is finite. Zero is inverse infinity, not finite.
"Jeffâ˛Relf" wrote...
in message |b... Measurement is finite. Zero is inverse infinity, not finite. I think i've always known that; i just never could quite put it into words. Thank you for that, Jeff! I've always felt disgusted when an otherwise intelligent person would tell me, "There is no division by zero! Division by zero is... U N D E F I N E D !" It's always seemed "counterintuitive" to me. So you've defined it... divide anything by zero and you get infinity. I can see some interesting mathematical ricochets, but i cannot realistically apply it. How would you know if the wavelength were truly zero or not ? I don't know. With an EM wave, if the v drops to zero then so does the wavelength. And as the frequency approaches infinity, the wavelength would approach zero. For particles the wavelength decreases as the momentum increases, but can theoretically never reach zero since it is directly proportional to Planck's constant. I'm thinking in cave-man terms where you hold a baseball bat between your hands. And the bat represents the freq. spectrum. At your left hand is the point of, say, zero freq., and at your right hand is the point of zero wavelength. When something reaches "truly zero", it just changes its polarity and keeps on going, right? So all you have to do is note the precise moment when the polarity changes? happy days and... starry starry nights! -- Indelibly yours, Paine Ellsworth P.S.: "You can't have a light without a dark to stick it in." Arlo Guthrie P.P.S.: http://Astronomy.painellsworth.net http://PoisonFalls.painellsworth.net http://TheInternetStory.painellsworth.net |
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How many pink elephants are in your room right now ?
â When [ a metaphysical wavelength ] reaches â truly zero â,
it just changes its polarity and keeps on going, right? â. I've no idea why that might be true. If a wavelength were truly zero then its momentum would be infinite. Infinite momentum is more energy than the known Universe multiplied by 999^999^999 ! How many pink elephants are in your room right now ? The answer is not â zero â, not with infinite precision. |
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How many pink elephants are in your room right now ?
"Jeffâ˛Relf" wrote...
in message |g... â When [ a metaphysical wavelength ] reaches â truly zero â, it just changes its polarity and keeps on going, right? â. I've no idea why that might be true. If a wavelength were truly zero then its momentum would be infinite. Infinite momentum is more energy than the known Universe multiplied by 999^999^999 ! How many pink elephants are in your room right now ? The answer is not â zero â, not with infinite precision. It seems to be a "dual-nature" thing with you as with most people. Infinity and zero are like the horse 'n carriage, love and marriage, and so on. You can't have one without the other? I look around and see zero pink elephants. Works for me. Give away all the coins in your pocket. Give them to any person you see who needs them more than you do. How many coins are left in your pocket, eh? The answer is most definitely zero with precision getting so close to infinite that it may as well *be* infinitee. (Oh shucks, there was a dime stuck way deep down. sigh Back to the ol' drawing board. g) By gosh, by golly! That smiley looks like a cyclops wearing a dunce cap! Electromagnetic energy caps out. That's why there is such a thing as "c". But that places no such cap on the energy that actually comprises space. Spatial energy has a freq. spectrum all its own. Don't mind me, i'm just thinking out loud... happy days and... starry starry nights! -- Indelibly yours, Paine Ellsworth P.S.: "You can't have a light without a dark to stick it in." Arlo Guthrie P.P.S.: http://Astronomy.painellsworth.net http://PoisonFalls.painellsworth.net http://TheInternetStory.painellsworth.net |
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I hid a elephant embryo inside your PC.
â I look around and see zero pink elephants. â,
you told me. Are you sure ? I hid a elephant embryo inside your PC. It's small, but it ain't Zero. â Electromagnetic energy caps out. â, How can you be so sure ? No measurement is infinitely precise. |
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I hid a elephant embryo inside your PC.
"Jeffâ˛Relf" wrote in message...
|J... â I look around and see zero pink elephants. â, you told me. Are you sure ? I hid a elephant embryo inside your PC. It's small, but it ain't Zero. â Electromagnetic energy caps out. â, How can you be so sure ? No measurement is infinitely precise. I'm not sure, Jeff. In fact, if i'm not mistaken, i think i was being sarcastic. I guess birds and stars are still flyin' round my head, because i can't seem to find that damn embryo anywhere! happy days and... starry starry nights! -- Indelibly yours, Paine Ellsworth P.S.: "I wasted time, and now doth time waste me." William Shakespeare P.P.S.: http://Astronomy.painellsworth.net http://PoisonFalls.painellsworth.net http://TheInternetStory.painellsworth.net |
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Did you check under the bed ?
â I can't seem to find that damn embryo anywhere! â, you told me.
Did you check under the bed ? Maybe it's lost in the blankets. |
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