Why did the Universe have a beginning but not God?

Why God Didn't Have a Beginning

09.01.2009


Source: Pravda.Ru


URL: http://english.pravda.ru/science/mys...od_Beginning-0

By Babu G. Ranganathan

We've all asked the question from the age of two. Why did the universe
have a beginning but not God? If God didn't have a beginning why
should the universe have a beginning. Couldn't the universe just have
always existed? Why a need for God?

The answer is found in understanding why the universe had to have a
beginning. Science supports Einstein's claim that the universe is a
closed system. That means it has finite energy. Even though energy
cannot be created or destroyed (by any natural processes), over time
the useful energy in the universe becomes more and more useless. This
is known in science as the Second Law of Thermodynamics. If the
universe were eternal then all of the energy would have become totally
useless by now and I wouldn't be writing this article and you wouldn't
be reading it either!

Isn't the Second Law of Thermodynamics merely an expression of
probability? Yes, but the probability is so high and certain that the
odds of just one calorie of energy spontaneously defying the Second
Law would be trillions times trillions to one, and the universe is
made up of far more than just one calorie of energy!

We know from the First Law of Thermodynamics in science that matter/
energy cannot be created from nothing by any natural process. Since
the second law teaches us that the universe does not have the ability
to have sustained itself from all eternity and first law teaches us
that the universe could not have brought itself into existence, the
only logical and rational conclusion is that a supernatural power
(God) brought the universe into existence. Furthermore, the complexity
and order in the universe logically points to a supreme mind. Disorder
in the universe is because of chance but the high degree of order can
only be rationally explained due to a supreme mind or intelligence.

Natural laws may explain how the order in the universe operates, but
mere undirected natural laws are insufficient to explain the origin of
that order. Even in life, once there is a complete and living cell
then the code and mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more
cells. The problem is how did life come about when there was no
already existing directing code and mechanism in nature.

And what about the stars? Oh, yes, gravity may explain how the order
found in the precise courses of trillions of stars is maintained, but
gravity cannot explain the origin of that order!

What about natural selection? Natural selection is a passive process
in nature making sure that only the fit survive. Natural selection
doesn't produce anything. It can only "select" from what is produced.
Natural selection is not an energy converting and directing mechanism,
and natural selection only operates once there is life and
reproduction and not before.

God's nature doesn't require that He have a beginning. God is self-
sustaining. The universe is not. And because the universe is not
ultimately self-sustaining, the universe requires creation (a
beginning) as well as a supreme designer and a supreme sustainer. In
other words, the universe requires God.

Ultimately, however, scientists concede that the Second Law of
Thermodynamics will conquer the entire universe and the universe, if
left to itself, will end in what scientists predict will be a heat
death because all of the energy in the universe will reach a uniform
state where no more work of any kind will be possible. Even a
contracting and expanding universe would no longer be possible in such
a state. This proves, as mentioned earlier, that the universe could
not be eternal or otherwise it would have long ago reached this point
of uniform energy decay or level.

All of this simply supports the belief that an intelligent power
outside of nature and the universe was responsible for its origin and
order.

Science cannot prove that we came about by creation or by chance
processes, but educators and students should be free to investigate
and make up their own minds as to which position the scientific
evidence best supports.

Belief in neither chance origins nor creation is necessary to the
actual study of science itself. One can understand the human body and
become a first class surgeon regardless of whether he or she believes
the human body is the result of the chance forces of Nature or of a
Supreme Designer.

It takes faith to believe we're here by chance. It takes faith to
believe we were created by God.

The author, Babu G. Ranganathan, has a B.A. degree with concentrations
in theology and biology and has been recognized for his writings on
religion and science in the 24th edition of Marquis "Who's Who In The
East". The author's website may be accessed at www.religionscience.com.


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Why God Didn't Have a Beginning

09.01.2009


Source: Pravda.Ru


URL: http://english.pravda.ru/science/mys...od_Beginning-0

By Babu G. Ranganathan

We've all asked the question from the age of two. Why did the universe
have a beginning but not God? If God didn't have a beginning why
should the universe have a beginning. Couldn't the universe just have
always existed? Why a need for God?

The answer is found in understanding why the universe had to have a
beginning. Science supports Einstein's claim that the universe is a
closed system. That means it has finite energy. Even though energy
cannot be created or destroyed (by any natural processes), over time
the useful energy in the universe becomes more and more useless. This
is known in science as the Second Law of Thermodynamics. If the
universe were eternal then all of the energy would have become totally
useless by now and I wouldn't be writing this article and you wouldn't
be reading it either!

***God had a beginning. It is just that he existed before the beginning.
Didn't think it was easy to understand God, did you?

***And whenever posing a question, don't give the answer.
That is for those of whom you asked the question.

Mark The cosmos never had nothing. It always had two intrinsic things
SPACE ENERGY & GRAVITY. That was all it needed to create all that6 is
over infinite time TreBert

Measurement is finite. Zero is inverse infinity, not finite.
How would you know if the wavelength were truly zero or not ?

"Jeffâ–²Relf" wrote...
in message |b...

Measurement is finite. Zero is inverse infinity, not finite.

I think i've always known that; i just never could quite put
it into words. Thank you for that, Jeff! I've always felt
disgusted when an otherwise intelligent person would tell
me, "There is no division by zero! Division by zero is...

U N D E F I N E D !"

It's always seemed "counterintuitive" to me. So you've
defined it... divide anything by zero and you get infinity.
I can see some interesting mathematical ricochets, but i
cannot realistically apply it.

How would you know if the wavelength were truly zero or not ?

I don't know. With an EM wave, if the v drops to zero then
so does the wavelength. And as the frequency approaches
infinity, the wavelength would approach zero. For particles
the wavelength decreases as the momentum increases, but
can theoretically never reach zero since it is directly
proportional to Planck's constant.

I'm thinking in cave-man terms where you hold a baseball
bat between your hands. And the bat represents the freq.
spectrum. At your left hand is the point of, say, zero freq.,
and at your right hand is the point of zero wavelength.

When something reaches "truly zero", it just changes its
polarity and keeps on going, right? So all you have to do
is note the precise moment when the polarity changes?

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

P.S.: "You can't have a light without a dark to stick it in."
Arlo Guthrie

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“ When [ a metaphysical wavelength ] reaches ‘ truly zero ’,
it just changes its polarity and keeps on going, right? �.

I've no idea why that might be true.
If a wavelength were truly zero then its momentum would be infinite.

Infinite momentum is more energy than
the known Universe multiplied by 999^999^999 !

How many pink elephants are in your room right now ?
The answer is not “ zero �, not with infinite precision.

"Jeffâ–²Relf" wrote...
in message |g...

“ When [ a metaphysical wavelength ] reaches ‘ truly zero ’,
it just changes its polarity and keeps on going, right? �.

I've no idea why that might be true.
If a wavelength were truly zero then its momentum would be infinite.

Infinite momentum is more energy than
the known Universe multiplied by 999^999^999 !

How many pink elephants are in your room right now ?
The answer is not “ zero �, not with infinite precision.

It seems to be a "dual-nature" thing with you as with most
people. Infinity and zero are like the horse 'n carriage, love
and marriage, and so on. You can't have one without the
other?

I look around and see zero pink elephants. Works for me.

Give away all the coins in your pocket. Give them to any
person you see who needs them more than you do. How
many coins are left in your pocket, eh?

The answer is most definitely zero with precision getting
so close to infinite that it may as well *be* infinitee.

(Oh shucks, there was a dime stuck way deep down. sigh
Back to the ol' drawing board. g)

By gosh, by golly! That smiley looks like a cyclops wearing
a dunce cap!

Electromagnetic energy caps out. That's why there is such
a thing as "c". But that places no such cap on the energy
that actually comprises space. Spatial energy has a freq.
spectrum all its own. Don't mind me, i'm just thinking out
loud...

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

P.S.: "You can't have a light without a dark to stick it in."
Arlo Guthrie

P.P.S.: http://Astronomy.painellsworth.net
http://PoisonFalls.painellsworth.net
http://TheInternetStory.painellsworth.net

“ I look around and see zero pink elephants. �,
you told me.

Are you sure ? I hid a elephant embryo inside your PC.
It's small, but it ain't Zero.

“ Electromagnetic energy caps out. �,

How can you be so sure ?
No measurement is infinitely precise.

"Jeffâ–²Relf" wrote in message...
|J...

“ I look around and see zero pink elephants. �,
you told me.

Are you sure ? I hid a elephant embryo inside your PC.
It's small, but it ain't Zero.

“ Electromagnetic energy caps out. �,

How can you be so sure ?
No measurement is infinitely precise.

I'm not sure, Jeff. In fact, if i'm not mistaken, i think i was
being sarcastic. I guess birds and stars are still flyin' round
my head, because i can't seem to find that damn embryo
anywhere!

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

P.S.: "I wasted time, and now doth time waste me."
William Shakespeare

P.P.S.: http://Astronomy.painellsworth.net
http://PoisonFalls.painellsworth.net
http://TheInternetStory.painellsworth.net

“ I can't seem to find that damn embryo anywhere! �, you told me.
Did you check under the bed ? Maybe it's lost in the blankets.