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Old March 27th 13, 03:15 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity
Hannu Poropudas[_2_]
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Default Anomaly Large Cold Spot and an Asymmetry in Temperatures on OppositeHemispheres of the Sky

Please take a look article about Planck data:

http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2...tatistics?lite


This graphic highlights anomalies seen in the Planck data. One Anomaly
is an Asymmetry in the Average Temperatures on Opposite Hemispheres of
the Sky (indicated by the curved line), with slightly higher average
temperatures in the southern ecliptic hemisphere and slightly lower
average temperatures in the northern ecliptic hemisphere. This runs
counter to the mainstream view that the universe should be broadly
similar in any direction we look. There Is Also a Cold Spot that
Extends Over a Patch of Sky That Is Much Larger Than Expected
(Circled). The anomalous regions have been enhanced here to make them
more clearly visible.

Do you have any ideas of cause of these anomalies?


Hannu Poropudas
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Old March 27th 13, 03:27 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity
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Default Anomaly Large Cold Spot and an Asymmetry in Temperatures onOpposite Hemispheres of the Sky

On Mar 27, 10:15*am, Hannu Poropudas wrote:
Please take a look article about Planck data:

http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2...planck-probes-...

This graphic highlights anomalies seen in the Planck data. One Anomaly
is an Asymmetry in the Average Temperatures on Opposite Hemispheres of
the Sky (indicated by the curved line), with slightly higher average
temperatures in the southern ecliptic hemisphere and slightly lower
average temperatures in the northern ecliptic hemisphere. This runs
counter to the mainstream view that the universe should be broadly
similar in any direction we look. There Is Also a Cold Spot that
Extends Over a Patch of Sky That Is Much Larger Than Expected
(Circled). The anomalous regions have been enhanced here to make them
more clearly visible.

Do you have any ideas of cause of these anomalies?

Hannu Poropudas


The Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is, a larger
version of a black hole polar jet.

Dark energy is aether emitted into the Universal jet.

It's not the Big Bang; it's the Big Ongoing.
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Old March 27th 13, 05:25 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity
Wayne Callahan
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Default Anomaly Large Cold Spot and an Asymmetry in Temperatures onOpposite Hemispheres of the Sky

mpc755 wrote:

Do you have any ideas of cause of these anomalies?

Hannu Poropudas


The Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is, a larger version of
a black hole polar jet.

Dark energy is aether emitted into the Universal jet.

It's not the Big Bang; it's the Big Ongoing.


Or something completely else
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Old March 27th 13, 11:54 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default Anomaly Large Cold Spot and an Asymmetry in Temperatures onOpposite Hemispheres of the Sky

On Mar 27, 7:15*am, Hannu Poropudas wrote:
Please take a look article about Planck data:

http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2...planck-probes-...

This graphic highlights anomalies seen in the Planck data. One Anomaly
is an Asymmetry in the Average Temperatures on Opposite Hemispheres of
the Sky (indicated by the curved line), with slightly higher average
temperatures in the southern ecliptic hemisphere and slightly lower
average temperatures in the northern ecliptic hemisphere. This runs
counter to the mainstream view that the universe should be broadly
similar in any direction we look. There Is Also a Cold Spot that
Extends Over a Patch of Sky That Is Much Larger Than Expected
(Circled). The anomalous regions have been enhanced here to make them
more clearly visible.

Do you have any ideas of cause of these anomalies?

Hannu Poropudas


Exactly, nothing uniform nor otherwise consistent about that map
generated via Planck.

http://m.static.newsvine.com/servist....jpg&width=600

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Old March 28th 13, 12:11 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity
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Default Anomaly Large Cold Spot and an Asymmetry in Temperatures on Opposite Hemispheres of the Sky

Hannu Poropudas wrote:
Please take a look article about Planck data:

http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2...tatistics?lite


This graphic highlights anomalies seen in the Planck data. One Anomaly
is an Asymmetry in the Average Temperatures on Opposite Hemispheres of
the Sky (indicated by the curved line), with slightly higher average
temperatures in the southern ecliptic hemisphere and slightly lower
average temperatures in the northern ecliptic hemisphere. This runs
counter to the mainstream view that the universe should be broadly
similar in any direction we look. There Is Also a Cold Spot that
Extends Over a Patch of Sky That Is Much Larger Than Expected
(Circled). The anomalous regions have been enhanced here to make them
more clearly visible.

Do you have any ideas of cause of these anomalies?


Hannu Poropudas


Interesting.
The first thing that comes to mind is that the MBR is assumed to be
residual from the Big Bang, which is strictly hypothetical. So MBR may be
caused by something else.
It is assumed to be greatly redshifted radiation residue from the birth of
our universe, but it could also be thermal radiation that permeates the
not-so-far-away universe.
That the anomalies follow the ecliptic is hardly a coincidence, and it is
unlikely to be a feature of the distant past or distant universe, but more
probably of our very near surroundings. Then, if this is truly so, the MBR
is just MR, with no direct indication that it's redshifted at all, and we'd
have to start looking for what causes it, and why it seems related to the
ecliptic.
I find it hard to believe that the anisotropy matches the ecliptic for no
reason. This makes one of the main evidences of the Big Bang, in fact, a
contradiction. Likely, new Big Bang models will be built to explain this,
but I would try a new approach and start looking for another possible cause
for the M(B?)R.
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Old March 28th 13, 12:21 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity
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Default Anomaly Large Cold Spot and an Asymmetry in Temperatures on Opposite Hemispheres of the Sky

"altergnostic" wrote in message ...

Hannu Poropudas wrote:
Please take a look article about Planck data:

http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2...tatistics?lite


This graphic highlights anomalies seen in the Planck data. One Anomaly
is an Asymmetry in the Average Temperatures on Opposite Hemispheres of
the Sky (indicated by the curved line), with slightly higher average
temperatures in the southern ecliptic hemisphere and slightly lower
average temperatures in the northern ecliptic hemisphere. This runs
counter to the mainstream view that the universe should be broadly
similar in any direction we look. There Is Also a Cold Spot that
Extends Over a Patch of Sky That Is Much Larger Than Expected
(Circled). The anomalous regions have been enhanced here to make them
more clearly visible.

Do you have any ideas of cause of these anomalies?


Hannu Poropudas


Interesting.
The first thing that comes to mind is that the MBR is assumed to be
residual from the Big Bang, which is strictly hypothetical. So MBR may be
caused by something else.
It is assumed to be greatly redshifted radiation residue from the birth of
our universe, but it could also be thermal radiation that permeates the
not-so-far-away universe.
That the anomalies follow the ecliptic is hardly a coincidence, and it is
unlikely to be a feature of the distant past or distant universe, but more
probably of our very near surroundings. Then, if this is truly so, the MBR
is just MR, with no direct indication that it's redshifted at all, and we'd
have to start looking for what causes it, and why it seems related to the
ecliptic.
I find it hard to believe that the anisotropy matches the ecliptic for no
reason. This makes one of the main evidences of the Big Bang, in fact, a
contradiction. Likely, new Big Bang models will be built to explain this,
but I would try a new approach and start looking for another possible cause
for the M(B?)R.
================================================== =
A new approach is simple enough. Start with the photon that is
analogous to this model:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMCf7SNUb-Q
Can you see that the ring gets larger the further it travels?
Can you see that this is not the conventional inverse square law?
Perhaps what you won't see is the "spin" getting slower.
An intelligent man would wonder what that implies.
Lower frequency, longer wavelength, red shift, Doppler, oh wow,
the universe must be expanding.
********.

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Old March 28th 13, 02:14 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity
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Default Anomaly Large Cold Spot and an Asymmetry in Temperatures onOpposite Hemispheres of the Sky

On Mar 27, 10:15*am, Hannu Poropudas wrote:
Please take a look article about Planck data:

http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2...planck-probes-...

This graphic highlights anomalies seen in the Planck data. One Anomaly
is an Asymmetry in the Average Temperatures on Opposite Hemispheres of
the Sky (indicated by the curved line), with slightly higher average
temperatures in the southern ecliptic hemisphere and slightly lower
average temperatures in the northern ecliptic hemisphere. This runs
counter to the mainstream view that the universe should be broadly
similar in any direction we look. There Is Also a Cold Spot that
Extends Over a Patch of Sky That Is Much Larger Than Expected
(Circled). The anomalous regions have been enhanced here to make them
more clearly visible.

Do you have any ideas of cause of these anomalies?

Hannu Poropudas


xxein: Did you expect our big bang to be homogeneous? It involved a
chaos. And a seemingly lopsided one at that.

It should be considered that if a highly condensed aggregate of
whatever formed (gravity?), it might not be homogeneous due to its own
creation. Upon the trigger point of instability and sudden release of
energy, presumably from its center, it has inhomogeneous paths to
follow outward. Its energy may also cause anything like mass in its
way to convert that mass into an energy.

A rapid inflation should occur until most all mass sediment is
converted. Then a 1/r^2 expansion follows.

After that is the commonly known chaos that allows a reformation of an
energy to mass in the cooler regions.

But for mass to exist, it requires a continual supply of energy to
hold its bonds. It gets this from the ambient energy. In so doing,
it absorbs any energy that comes by. That changes any equlibrium in
the energy field itself. If there was only energy around this mass,
it would be riding this energy expansion.

But if there were two masses, they would drain the energy between
them. For energy to achieve an equilibrium again, it doesn't care
where it went. It will still try to maintain its equilibrium. It
will draw upon itself to maintain that from all directions. But it
also means that it will predominately draw energy along the line
vertical between the two masses (using it up) to fill it up again.

Not entirely along that line though. It also includes the hemispheres
of energy around the two masses. They close in also. And so goes
(go) the masses.

The point of this that mass rides the ambient energy and we see this
with the expansion of this universe. But it rides all energy. Even
local as it tries to maintain its equilibrium.

Please don't think that our universe was the only one that exists.
Just because we cannot see another universe doesn't mean that ours is
the only one.

Furthering that thought, we see novas and supernovas. Do we know the
ingredients for that to happen? Do they release the same kind of
energy? Quasars. What is their energy type? Sure we see them but do
we see all the energy? Ancient, for sure, but were they formed with a
higher form of energy? Do they create new and different universes?
If it took light 14 billion years to show us that, what are they like
or doing now?

Just food for thought.
 




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