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Old September 16th 09, 07:26 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics
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What! No Parallel Universe? Cosmic Cold Spot Just Data Artifact |
Universe Today
"Rats! Another perplexing space mystery solved by science. New analysis
of the famous "cold spot" in the cosmic microwave background reveals,
and confirms, actually, that the spot is just an artifact of the
statistical methods used to find it. That means there is no supervoid
lurking in the CMB, and no parallel universe lying just beyond the edge
of our own. What fun is that?"
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/09...data-artifact/
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Old September 16th 09, 08:53 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics
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Dear Yousuf Khan:

On Sep 16, 11:26*am, Yousuf Khan wrote:
What! No Parallel Universe? Cosmic Cold Spot
Just Data Artifact | Universe Today
"Rats! Another perplexing space mystery solved
by science. New analysis of the famous "cold
spot" in the cosmic microwave background
reveals, and confirms, actually, that the spot is
just an artifact of the statistical methods used
to find it. That means there is no supervoid
lurking in the CMB, and no parallel universe
lying just beyond the edge of our own. What
fun is that?"

snip link now broken by Google.Groups

They indicated the "cold spot" had a star "in front" and "behind".
How in the world do you have a star "behind" a supervoid at the edge
of the Universe, and us able to see it? Not that this result is
surprising, just wondering about that little datumn...

David A. Smith
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Old September 17th 09, 02:07 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics
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Yousuf Khan wrote:

What! No Parallel Universe? Cosmic Cold Spot Just Data Artifact |
Universe Today
"Rats! Another perplexing space mystery solved by science. New analysis
of the famous "cold spot" in the cosmic microwave background reveals,
and confirms, actually, that the spot is just an artifact of the
statistical methods used to find it. That means there is no supervoid
lurking in the CMB, and no parallel universe lying just beyond the edge
of our own. What fun is that?"
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/09...iverse-cosmic-

cold-spot-just-data-artifact/

Pity.

I continue to be somewhat irritated at how well our simple cosmological
models work.
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Old September 17th 09, 04:59 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics
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"eric gisse" wrote:
Yousuf Khan wrote:

Khan cited:
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/09...data-artifact/

"What! No Parallel Universe? Cosmic Cold Spot Just Data Artifact...
Rats! Another perplexing space mystery solved by science. New analysis
of the famous "cold spot" in the cosmic microwave background reveals,
and confirms, actually, that the spot is just an artifact of the
statistical methods used to find it. That means there is no supervoid
lurking in the CMB, and no parallel universe lying just beyond the edge
of our own. What fun is that?"

Eric Gisse wrote:
Pity. .... I continue to be somewhat irritated at
how well our simple cosmological models work.

hanson wrote:
..... ahahahaha... This is a gem!.. Eric's remark that is!

Eric if you continue to be somewhat irritated why you
have not received your long overdue BSc yet, that
mentality in your notion you just expressed may very
well be the reason for it.

OTOH you may be a very rare character and you may
gain fame in some profession wherein the guiding
principle rules that simple solutions are discarded
for more complicated ones.

You'd make a good bureaucrat... or maybe
you are the Anti-Occam... sort of an Anti-Christ.

Thansk for the laughs, dude,... ahahhahanson

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Old September 17th 09, 08:15 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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On Sep 16, 9:26*pm, Yousuf Khan wrote:
What! No Parallel Universe? Cosmic Cold Spot Just Data Artifact |
Universe Today
"Rats! Another perplexing space mystery solved by science. New analysis
of the famous "cold spot" in the cosmic microwave background reveals,
and confirms, actually, that the spot is just an artifact of the
statistical methods used to find it. That means there is no supervoid
lurking in the CMB, and no parallel universe lying just beyond the edge
of our own. What fun is that?"http://www.universetoday.com/2009/09/16/what-no-parallel-universe-cos...


I know that these cold and hot spots in the
cosmic microwave background are LIGHT CONES.
(I refer here to the WMAP picture).

Hannu
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Old September 17th 09, 08:17 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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"mathematician" wrote in message
...
On Sep 16, 9:26 pm, Yousuf Khan wrote:
What! No Parallel Universe? Cosmic Cold Spot Just Data Artifact |
Universe Today
"Rats! Another perplexing space mystery solved by science. New analysis
of the famous "cold spot" in the cosmic microwave background reveals,
and confirms, actually, that the spot is just an artifact of the
statistical methods used to find it. That means there is no supervoid
lurking in the CMB, and no parallel universe lying just beyond the edge
of our own. What fun is
that?"http://www.universetoday.com/2009/09/16/what-no-parallel-universe-cos...


I know that these cold and hot spots in the
cosmic microwave background are LIGHT CONES.


I think you're confusing light-cones with ice-cream cones. *They* are cold.


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Old September 17th 09, 08:12 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics
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dlzc wrote:
They indicated the "cold spot" had a star "in front" and "behind".
How in the world do you have a star "behind" a supervoid at the edge
of the Universe, and us able to see it? Not that this result is
surprising, just wondering about that little datumn...

David A. Smith


Why it's the identical but evil twin star in the parallel universe, of
course. :-)

Yousuf Khan
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Old September 17th 09, 08:15 PM posted to sci.astro
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eric gisse wrote:
Pity.


Pity, that it turned out to be just a data artifact? Or pity that it
blows some favoured model of the universe out of the water for you?

I continue to be somewhat irritated at how well our simple cosmological
models work.


Well, obviously this particular model didn't work.

Yousuf Khan
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Old September 18th 09, 03:50 AM posted to sci.astro
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Dear Yousuf Khan:

"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
...
eric gisse wrote:
Pity.


Pity, that it turned out to be just a data artifact? Or
pity that it blows some favoured model of the universe
out of the water for you?


Based on his next comment, it is a pity that "vanilla" GR is
sufficient... again.

I continue to be somewhat irritated at how well our
simple cosmological models work.


Well, obviously this particular model didn't work.


There was no model to support this. It flew in the face of
classical mechanics and multiverse cosmology both.

David A. Smith


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Old September 18th 09, 09:48 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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On Sep 17, 10:17*am, "Inertial" wrote:
"mathematician" wrote in message

...

On Sep 16, 9:26 pm, Yousuf Khan wrote:
What! No Parallel Universe? Cosmic Cold Spot Just Data Artifact |
Universe Today
"Rats! Another perplexing space mystery solved by science. New analysis
of the famous "cold spot" in the cosmic microwave background reveals,
and confirms, actually, that the spot is just an artifact of the
statistical methods used to find it. That means there is no supervoid
lurking in the CMB, and no parallel universe lying just beyond the edge
of our own. What fun is
that?"http://www.universetoday.com/2009/09/16/what-no-parallel-universe-cos...


I know that these cold and hot spots in the
cosmic microwave background are LIGHT CONES.


I think you're confusing light-cones with ice-cream cones. *They* are cold.


Can't you understand GR.

Intersection of ball and cone is SPOT. This is how we observe spot.

Lot of spots means lots of light cones and there seems to exist
two types of light cones. Perhaps these two types of light cones
corresponds two different types of mass which exist ???

Please take a look Ned Wright's cosmology tutorial to see how
we observe in GR.

Hannu
 




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