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Betelgeuse as pre supernova - what are the closest and most recentclose supernova remnants.
I notice from APOD that Betelgeuse is~640 l.y. away, and from
Wikipedia that it is possibly in a pre supernova stage, perhaps to explode in a few thousand years. In thinking about the ecological consequences of this, being mindful that Betelgeuse's spin axis is not pointed toward the solar system, I still would like to esimate any possible effects. For this purpose I would like to know the locations and estimated dates of the closest supernova remnants to the solar system, i.e. how long has it been since a comperable event. Any remnant within ~1000 l.y. would seem reasonable. This would include of course the closest pulsars, etc. It is complicated since for times lond ago we need to include the effects of galactic orbital motion, etc. Still, interesting Thanks |
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Betelgeuse as pre supernova - what are the closest and mostrecent close supernova remnants.
On Sep 5, 11:16*am, sg1 wrote:
I notice from APOD that Betelgeuse is~640 l.y. away, and from Wikipedia that it is possibly in a pre supernova stage, perhaps to explode in a few thousand years. * In thinking about the ecological consequences of this, being mindful that Betelgeuse's spin axis is not pointed toward the solar system, I still would like to esimate any possible effects. * *For this purpose I would like to know the locations and estimated dates of the closest supernova remnants to the solar system, i.e. how long has it been since a comperable event. Any remnant within ~1000 l.y. would seem reasonable. * *This would include of course the closest pulsars, etc. * *It is complicated since for times lond ago we need to include the effects of galactic orbital motion, etc. * Still, interesting Thanks Sirius B at 8+ solar mass rather quickly became a red supergiant and supposedly went nova postal on us fairly recent, leaving that little white dwarf and possibly a stealth Sirius C behind. ~ BG |
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Betelgeuse as pre supernova - what are the closest and mostrecent close supernova remnants.
On Sep 5, 8:16*pm, sg1 wrote:
possible effects. * *For this purpose I would like to know the locations and estimated dates of the closest supernova remnants to the solar system, i.e. how long has it been since a comperable event. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_supernova_remnants shows only two remnants closer than 1000 light years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_Supernova_Remnant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RX_J0852.0-4622 That last one was 700 light years away and its light should have reached Earth around 1250. |
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Betelgeuse as pre supernova - what are the closest and mostrecent close supernova remnants.
On Sep 5, 11:16*am, sg1 wrote:
I notice from APOD that Betelgeuse is~640 l.y. away, and from Wikipedia that it is possibly in a pre supernova stage, perhaps to explode in a few thousand years. * In thinking about the ecological consequences of this, being mindful that Betelgeuse's spin axis is not pointed toward the solar system, I still would like to esimate any possible effects. * *For this purpose I would like to know the locations and estimated dates of the closest supernova remnants to the solar system, i.e. how long has it been since a comperable event. Any remnant within ~1000 l.y. would seem reasonable. * *This would include of course the closest pulsars, etc. * *It is complicated since for times lond ago we need to include the effects of galactic orbital motion, etc. * Still, interesting Thanks According to what mainstream science is telling us, anything less than 8 solar masses is not likely to become a full blown supernova, but instead just evolving into another pesky nova that could expand its molecular debris out to a dozen some odd light years radii (16 ly) before slowing down. Double that original pre-nova solar mass (16+) and the bulk of this now supernova molecular debris radii expands 64 ly. Sirius B was originally 8+9solar masses before becoming a red supergiant of 5+ solar masses, subsequently terminating its nova phase into a 1+ white dwarf that's nicely sucking away at Sirius A on each and every near pass. At some point Sirius A+B could merge and become yet another nova or dwarf-supernova, possibly evolve into a binary white dwarf system, or into becoming a singular and somewhat larger white dwarf that'll supposedly remain stable for billions of years. The bad new is, Sirius is too close and only getting closer for our extremely limited level of discomfort tolerance, whereas frail human life and the vast biodiversity as we've known Eden/Earth to support may not be as local nova immune as we'd care to think. Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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