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On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:27:13 PM UTC-8, bob haller wrote:
looks like rabbit has some issues, its warranty may be expired It's very suspicious, as to how the China moon mission was so unprepared. Have you uncovered any actual science from their moon mission (other than revised/doctored images)? |
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On Thursday, January 30, 2014 4:44:44 AM UTC-8, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article , says... On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:27:13 PM UTC-8, bob haller wrote: looks like rabbit has some issues, its warranty may be expired It's very suspicious, as to how the China moon mission was so unprepared. Unprepared? Are you kidding? The fact that the mission actually landed on the moon and the rover worked for a period of time indicates a level of expertise (and financial investment) that's quite high. I'm quite impressed with what they've accomplished. Look at the moon race in the 60's for a comparison. Both the US and U.S.S.R. had quite a string of failures of unmanned lunar probes. Have you uncovered any actual science from their moon mission (other than revised/doctored images)? Like you're an expert! :-P Jeff I never suggested they didn't have a vastly superior lander (especially to anything we have), which to me proved just how good their MIC of fly-by-rocket stuff has become. Of course any and all R&D pertaining to that sort of moon lander remains as a taboo/nondisclosure issue, so that our guys don't get to benefit from any of their superior capability. Do you even know of anyone having access to the raw science of their mission, besides those badly revised 3rd or 4th hand modified images, of which they can't even explain to us how their CCD imagers working at 400+ K as having performed so nicely when none of our stuff can? Is this why their extremely high temperature rated CCD imagers couldn't function when cooled down to below 200 K? What is it about real objective science that you obviously place no value upon? It's exactly as though no other missions ever made it to the surface of our physically dark, paramagnetic and naked moon, and thereby team China had no idea of what to expect. What sort of outsider expertise does it take in order to comprehend surface temperatures, illumination levels (including planetshine) and those basic radiation readings? Are we also to believe our moon is inert, monochromatic and not the least bit reactive to UV nor ionized? Obviously you can't even deductively interpret those crappy media revised images, because dysfunctional 5th graders seem to know far more about using PhotoShop or whatever photo editing image interpreting than yourself. Are you suggesting that your education never got that far? |
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On Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:52:37 PM UTC-8, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article , says... On Thursday, January 30, 2014 4:44:44 AM UTC-8, Jeff Findley wrote: In article , says... On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:27:13 PM UTC-8, bob haller wrote: looks like rabbit has some issues, its warranty may be expired It's very suspicious, as to how the China moon mission was so unprepared. Unprepared? Are you kidding? The fact that the mission actually landed on the moon and the rover worked for a period of time indicates a level of expertise (and financial investment) that's quite high. I'm quite impressed with what they've accomplished. Look at the moon race in the 60's for a comparison. Both the US and U.S.S.R. had quite a string of failures of unmanned lunar probes. Have you uncovered any actual science from their moon mission (other than revised/doctored images)? Like you're an expert! :-P Jeff I never suggested they didn't have a vastly superior lander (especially to anything we have), which to me proved just how good their MIC of fly-by-rocket stuff has become. Of course any and all R&D pertaining to that sort of moon lander remains as a taboo/nondisclosure issue, so that our guys don't get to benefit from any of their superior capability. Do you even know of anyone having access to the raw science of their mission, besides those badly revised 3rd or 4th hand modified images, of which they can't even explain to us how their CCD imagers working at 400+ K as having performed so nicely when none of our stuff can? Is this why their extremely high temperature rated CCD imagers couldn't function when cooled down to below 200 K? Ah yes, now I remember why I kill-filed you in the past. Goodbye you ignorant git! Plonk! Jeff In other words, actual real honest to God science data doesn't actually matter to those of your kind. No wonder our DARPA and NASA was nothing without their "Operation Paperclip" SS Nazi friends, that obviously you still worship. What is it about the science obtained by a public-funded government that you feel isn't obligated as to being shared with the republic for which it stands? |
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well its feb 10th, the lander and rover should wake up right about now...
I do wonder why they designed the craft to stow its solar panels, every lander or rover I ever heard of deployed the panels permanetely after landing. wasnt spirit and opportunity built to expose the anels as soon as te air bag was deflated. having to restow solar panels adds extra complexity and failure modes ...... |
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On Monday, February 10, 2014 2:32:10 AM UTC-5, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote: well its feb 10th, the lander and rover should wake up right about now... I do wonder why they designed the craft to stow its solar panels, every lander or rover I ever heard of deployed the panels permanetely after landing. wasnt spirit and opportunity built to expose the anels as soon as te air bag was deflated. having to restow solar panels adds extra complexity and failure modes ...... The Moon is different. You get a long period of time with no illumination and temperatures drop precipitously. The solar panels on Jade Rabbit are part of the insulating system that keeps electronics from freezing and being damaged during the long 'night'. Lunar rovers of various designs frequently have compartments that close for insulation purposes and often have internal heaters powered from something other than solar power to keep them from 'dying' during the 'night'. -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." --George Bernard Shaw spirit and opportunity dont and neither did the old moon landers like surveyor. it would likely e easier to have solar panels that arent complex. since moon dust is sticky and abrasive. |
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On Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:34:22 PM UTC-8, bob haller wrote:
well its feb 10th, the lander and rover should wake up right about now... I do wonder why they designed the craft to stow its solar panels, every lander or rover I ever heard of deployed the panels permanetely after landing. wasnt spirit and opportunity built to expose the anels as soon as te air bag was deflated. having to restow solar panels adds extra complexity and failure modes ...... After having been at least twice roasted to death, then essentially frozen to death and always getting clogged with highly ionized dust as well as radiated by all sorts of local, solar and cosmic dosages, it'll be lucky if much of anything works. Apparently team Yutu had no idea of what to expect. |
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On Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:53:26 PM UTC-8, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Nice to see something moving on the lunar surface again. Looking forward to the selfies. From being twice frozen to death and about to get a third time roasted to death, as well as constantly radiated and tormented by ionized dust, doesn't exactly look good for Yutu or its lander. Notice how the rover tracks vanish, shadows that simply do not match and how poorly the dynamic range of their CCD imagers operating at 400 k (260 F) can't seem to perform any better than Kodak film. http://d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net...Ken-Kremer.jpg Of course, not one iota of actual raw science from the China yutu or that of its lander has ever been offered. The best we ever got were of their media eyecandy infomercials composed of these 3rd and 4th hand modified images with no CCD imager or optical specs. By the way, I still have numerous lunar samples of 3.5+ g/cm3 basalts that are highly paramagnetic and some of these samples every bit as hard as carbonado, compared to terrestrials basalt that seldom exceeds 3.1 g/cm3 and are barely a tenth as paramagnetic and clearly not formed as that of lunar basalt which solidified in a hard vacuum. No doubt our planet has several teratonnes of such highly paramagnetic basalt deposits as derived from our moon, because where else would most of that crater basalt crust material have gone, besides roughly a third as having been retained by the moon. |
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Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Nice to see something moving on the lunar surface again. Looking forward to the selfies. Alas, now it seems the reported death of the rabbit is no longer greatly exaggerated: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02..._conked_ out/ rick jones -- web2.0 n, the dot.com reunion tour... these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... feel free to post, OR email to rick.jones2 in hp.com but NOT BOTH... |
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