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Did we move from hypothesis to theory on black holes? Their existence certainly matches the predictions and pretty close to the predicted models. Yes, they're not just theory but established fact. Will we ever have full theories on what goes on within the event horizons? Oh, I sincerely doubt it. At this point I don't think we could give any math on that any more than hypothesis. Appreciate your comments. I still say black holes ( and event horizons et al ) are essentially theoretical. |
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On Friday, January 17, 2020 at 7:05:11 AM UTC-8, wrote:
I still say black holes ( and event horizons et al ) are essentially theoretical. Theoretical, sure, but yet, there is plenty of evidence that black holes exist. For example... https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~narayan...McClintock.pdf It is up to you to provide evidence to the contrary, if you can. |
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"Paul AnalSinger" aka "palsing" wrote:
which means in ancient Roman lingo: "House of saggy ass cheeks", wrote: I still say black holes ( and event horizons et al ) are essentially theoretical. Theoretical, sure, but yet, there is plenty of evidence that black holes exist. For example... https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~narayan...McClintock.pdf It is up to you to provide evidence to the contrary, if you can. "Sam Wormley" wrote on 9-Jan-2016: Raymond Yohros wrote: i'm surprise that you,Sam, cannot see how a BH can produce thermonuclear reactions that can give birth to a star "Sam Wormley" wrote: Stars are created by the collapse of gas (mostly hydrogen). Nothing comes out of black holes, Raymond. hanson wrote: Sam, "Nothing comes out of black holes", because there is Nothing there in the first place... Duh!..... ROTFLMAO! Black holes are Sci-Fi products to excite the Public and to beguile Einstein Dingleberries in their worship of Albert's Sphincter. The term BH was colloquially coined & used to describe the region of the Barycenter, which is the COMMON center of rotation, out to the inner orbiting Star(matter). Such Binary & n-body systems do exist & spin.... but the BH region itself does not spin. A BH is a virtual, fictitious, abstract construct of math. In the "Wormhole" series narrated by actor Morgan Freeman. http://www.bing.com/search?q=freeman+wormhole&qs=SC&pq in the segment "Swallowed by a Black hole" Astronomy Prof. Ghez explains and refers to the __ Black hole as being the focus of these orbits---, and "focus" being the afore mentioned "Barycenter". If the orbiting stars are all in the same plane then due to their mutual gravitational (n-body) attraction amongst themselves, their Barycenter, which is their COMMON center of rotation, appears to be flat (lots of x & y, litte z only) and is popularly called BH. If their rotations and orbits, also due to their mutual gravitational (n-body) attraction amongst themselves is random in x, y and z, then the perceived but NOT real BH region appears to be oblate to spherical. In all cases, these domains INSIDE the orbits of those orbiting stars have NO mass nor matter. **** There is nothing in there... Nothing****, ...but when the orbiting stars reach their "tear-apart" speed & -curvature, (aka event horizon), due to their mutual gravitational attraction, then the so-called "feeding of the black hole" begin and stars or gas cloud matter gets so hot that enormous amounts of x-ray radiant energy is released from fusion and pair annilhilation and every conceivable reaction known to particle physics does occur. So, in a sense, Yohors, who bought into the misguided habits of licking of Albert's sphincter is right in that "thermonuclear reactions" do occur when the orbiting stars in the binary to n-body systems are tearing each other apart, and .... make the resulting central jets trivially explainable by the classic right hand rule. Those jet's are also assumed to slam into far way Gas clouds wherein they produce shock-waves that give rise to the birth of stars of the "next generation". There are NO naked BHs floating around, rotating or not. http://tinyurl.com/ykf356z Barycenters Black Holes / Ghez. http://tinyurl.com/yjlxhtd Barycenter --- KW http://tinyurl.com/yjbpwrh |||| d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 - G |||| http://tinyurl.com/yjmfyxa wife beater Einstein's hush money http://tinyurl.com/o74vbr Einstein's guilt and confessions http://tinyurl.com/yfqwm5v Kolker vs Christopher Jon Bjerknes |
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On 1/17/20 7:05 AM, wrote:
... Did we move from hypothesis to theory on black holes? Their existence certainly matches the predictions and pretty close to the predicted models. Yes, they're not just theory but established fact. Will we ever have full theories on what goes on within the event horizons? Oh, I sincerely doubt it. At this point I don't think we could give any math on that any more than hypothesis. Appreciate your comments. I still say black holes ( and event horizons et al ) are essentially theoretical. alright. -- Daniel Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world |
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It is up to you to provide evidence to the contrary, if you can. Absolutely NOT ! The onus is CLEARLY to provide concrete evidence of BH's existence, owing to the strange nature of BHs. Do we need to prove that Santa Claus and the tooth fairy don't exist ? No ? Some things are obvious. |
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On Saturday, January 18, 2020 at 5:29:20 AM UTC-8, wrote:
It is up to you to provide evidence to the contrary, if you can. Absolutely NOT ! The onus is CLEARLY to provide concrete evidence of BH's existence, owing to the strange nature of BHs. Do we need to prove that Santa Claus and the tooth fairy don't exist ? No ? Some things are obvious. I'm afraid that you don't really understand the scientific method. Mainstream science, whether you like it or not, has embraced the existence of black holes, due to overwhelming evidence as to their existence, This evidence is readily available to anyone who wants to look for it, and it is easy to find. If you cannot find it on the internet, I guess you are just not very good at research, for it is really there, The vast majority of scientists accept this evidence, which is why black holes are generally accepted as existing by the scientific community. If you, on the other hand, wish to dispute the beliefs of these mainstream scientists that black holes exist, well, all you need to do is provide evidence to the contrary, evidence that black holes do not exist. If you cannot do this, then you are invited to go pound sand, for no one in the scientific community will pay the least bit of attention to you at all. Your call, either you have evidence or you do not. Mainstream science has provided a terrific amount of evidence, whereas you have not. That is just the way it is. Deal with it. |
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