A hair of the SV's EDT?

One million people are out of work in California alone. Some for many months
or a year or more..
And people who have given up in despair after many months of looking aren't
included in the unemployment figures.
Lots of technical and engineering people who were taught to worship the
Golden Calf of the totally untrammeled free market are having second thoughts
now that they are losing their life savings while unemployed. Turns out it was
harder to know which side your bread is buttered on than the engineering schools
let on.
About half the homeless are employed, by the way. They just can't make
enough to afford shelter.
Reminds me of India as I knew it years ago: lots of highly trained talented
scientific and technical people with little hope of getting jobs. And lots of
homeless living on the streets with no hope at all . Very sad.
I hope we can learn somthing from the experience of Great Britain: once the
dominant economic power (as we were in the 1950's and 60's) and now with a GNP
lower than Italy's.
Bill Meyers

Al wrote:

"Patriot" wrote in message
...
So, everyone in the U.S. who thinks cheap
Chinese telescopes are a good thing, will
you still feel the same when your job is
outsourced to China or India or Malaysia?
When the only 2 choices of employment
you have are Wal-Mart or McDonald's, will
it still be a good thing? That some
Ukranian phuck continually bashes a
U.S. company, is that a good thing?
Just wondering...how are your burger
flipping skills these days? You might
need them sooner than you realize.


Hi Henny Penny,

When you've consumed half of your beer, is your glass half empty or half
full? I think that most of our jobs are fairly safe for years to come and
you shouldn't lose much sleep over this. The economic threat from China has
a way of putting American business on notice...and this is good!

Al

Cover2Cover wrote in message ...
Hi all!

http://www.telescope.com/jump.jsp?it...rID=237&KICKER

No any exaggeration, clear and simple. And the price for an entire ED
scope is less than the Chromacor add on thingamajig.

Orion, my congratulations!

DR

Have you ever tried a Chromacorr, or do you damm the product because
you don't like Valery?

I've been using a Chromacorr I on my 6" f/8 for two years and it's
just short of incredible!

Last weekend, after letting club members look at Mars thru my 6" f/8,
I took the Chromacorr out without telling them and let them look
again. One members said it all: "What the hell happen to your scope?
It's almost not useable now!

You may not like Valery, but you can't agrue with what he has done.

Thanks Valery for a great product. As soon as I have the extra money
I'll get a Ch II.

Darren in Bakersfield

Cover2Cover wrote in message ...
Hi all!

http://www.telescope.com/jump.jsp?it...rID=237&KICKER

No any exaggeration, clear and simple. And the price for an entire ED
scope is less than the Chromacor add on thingamajig.

Orion, my congratulations!

DR

Have you ever tried a Chromacorr, or do you damm the product because
you don't like Valery?

I've been using a Chromacorr I on my 6" f/8 for two years and it's
just short of incredible!

Last weekend, after letting club members look at Mars thru my 6" f/8,
I took the Chromacorr out without telling them and let them look
again. One members said it all: "What the hell happen to your scope?
It's almost not useable now!

You may not like Valery, but you can't agrue with what he has done.

Thanks Valery for a great product. As soon as I have the extra money
I'll get a Ch II.

Darren in Bakersfield

(ValeryD) wrote in message om...
Hi all!


http://www.cloudynights.com/reviews4/apm-achro.htm


No any exaggeration, clear and simple. And the price is $300 instead of
$1500 (only a focuser is better in the SV's EDT).

Markus, my congratulations!


V.D.

Nor does it have an ED element.

David

(ValeryD) wrote in message om...
Hi all!


http://www.cloudynights.com/reviews4/apm-achro.htm


No any exaggeration, clear and simple. And the price is $300 instead of
$1500 (only a focuser is better in the SV's EDT).

Markus, my congratulations!


V.D.

Nor does it have an ED element.

David

Darren

It's so very funny that you would allow Valery the right to damn the
Stellarvue 102EDT without ever having
seen it but at the same time you bite deep into my shorts for doing a spoof
on one of Valery's posts.
Somethings to consider:

1.This is a technical forum, Valery, at least when the 102EDT was first
addressed, did present the reasons for his thinking.

2. Let us not forget that Valery was right on the money when it came to his
assessment of the SV 102EDT......

3. Your "spoof" had more venom than it did laughing gas.

I often wish Valery was more tactful and stayed away from personal issues, but
the bottomline is that he does know his optics and he is willing the share that
knowledge.

That is why some people allowed him the right to evaluate the SV 102.

jon

Darren

It's so very funny that you would allow Valery the right to damn the
Stellarvue 102EDT without ever having
seen it but at the same time you bite deep into my shorts for doing a spoof
on one of Valery's posts.
Somethings to consider:

1.This is a technical forum, Valery, at least when the 102EDT was first
addressed, did present the reasons for his thinking.

2. Let us not forget that Valery was right on the money when it came to his
assessment of the SV 102EDT......

3. Your "spoof" had more venom than it did laughing gas.

I often wish Valery was more tactful and stayed away from personal issues, but
the bottomline is that he does know his optics and he is willing the share that
knowledge.

That is why some people allowed him the right to evaluate the SV 102.

jon

Jon Isaacs wrote:


Darren

It's so very funny that you would allow Valery the right to damn the
Stellarvue 102EDT without ever having
seen it but at the same time you bite deep into my shorts for doing a spoof
on one of Valery's posts.
Somethings to consider:

1.This is a technical forum, Valery, at least when the 102EDT was first
addressed, did present the reasons for his thinking.

2. Let us not forget that Valery was right on the money when it came to his
assessment of the SV 102EDT......

3. Your "spoof" had more venom than it did laughing gas.

I often wish Valery was more tactful and stayed away from personal issues, but
the bottomline is that he does know his optics and he is willing the share that
knowledge.

That is why some people allowed him the right to evaluate the SV 102.

jon

Gee whiz Jon

Thank you for explaining all that to us.

'cept I don't remember making an evaluation of the Chromacor... seems that all I
said was that the Orion scope was cheaper than the Chromacor.

And shame on me for having so much venom being that Valery's post was done in such
a lighthearted way.

Oh well.

- D

Jon Isaacs wrote:


Darren

It's so very funny that you would allow Valery the right to damn the
Stellarvue 102EDT without ever having
seen it but at the same time you bite deep into my shorts for doing a spoof
on one of Valery's posts.
Somethings to consider:

1.This is a technical forum, Valery, at least when the 102EDT was first
addressed, did present the reasons for his thinking.

2. Let us not forget that Valery was right on the money when it came to his
assessment of the SV 102EDT......

3. Your "spoof" had more venom than it did laughing gas.

I often wish Valery was more tactful and stayed away from personal issues, but
the bottomline is that he does know his optics and he is willing the share that
knowledge.

That is why some people allowed him the right to evaluate the SV 102.

jon

Gee whiz Jon

Thank you for explaining all that to us.

'cept I don't remember making an evaluation of the Chromacor... seems that all I
said was that the Orion scope was cheaper than the Chromacor.

And shame on me for having so much venom being that Valery's post was done in such
a lighthearted way.

Oh well.

- D

I think that most of our jobs are fairly safe for years to come...

On what planet is that?

Unemployment in the IT industry has gone
from 1.6% in 1998 to nearly 6% now.