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Old May 27th 07, 08:12 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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Pardon my lack of knoweldge on the subject... more a curiosity to me
than anything, and maybe you guys can help me understand.

If there was supposedly a singularity which expanded as the big bang,
then wouldn't the singularity have to exist in a three dimensional
location, or "location" within another higher dimension? I understand
the balloon analogy, as how the universe expands... but when you take
all the air out, it will of course shrink, but the balloon itself is
still *somewhere*.

Additionally, what did the universe expand *into*? Was this empty
space as we know it? Empty space being that "nothing" that exists
between galaxies, etc? So if one were to travel in a straight line,
and somehow managed to travel faster than the expansion, after passing
the background radiation, what would you see?

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Old May 27th 07, 10:47 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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The universe == Everything.

So if your big bang bubble exist within a higher dimension, then this
big bang bubble is just a portion of the real universe.

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Old May 27th 07, 11:14 AM posted to alt.astronomy
Greg Neill[_5_]
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"ShutterMan" wrote in message
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Pardon my lack of knoweldge on the subject... more a curiosity to me
than anything, and maybe you guys can help me understand.

If there was supposedly a singularity which expanded as the big bang,
then wouldn't the singularity have to exist in a three dimensional
location, or "location" within another higher dimension? I understand
the balloon analogy, as how the universe expands... but when you take
all the air out, it will of course shrink, but the balloon itself is
still *somewhere*.

Additionally, what did the universe expand *into*? Was this empty
space as we know it? Empty space being that "nothing" that exists
between galaxies, etc? So if one were to travel in a straight line,
and somehow managed to travel faster than the expansion, after passing
the background radiation, what would you see?


Take a look at Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial:

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm


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Old May 29th 07, 02:40 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On May 27, 3:12 am, ShutterMan wrote:
Pardon my lack of knoweldge on the subject... more a curiosity to me
than anything, and maybe you guys can help me understand.

If there was supposedly a singularity which expanded as the big bang,
then wouldn't the singularity have to exist in a three dimensional
location, or "location" within another higher dimension? I understand
the balloon analogy, as how the universe expands... but when you take
all the air out, it will of course shrink, but the balloon itself is
still *somewhere*.

Additionally, what did the universe expand *into*? Was this empty
space as we know it? Empty space being that "nothing" that exists
between galaxies, etc? So if one were to travel in a straight line,
and somehow managed to travel faster than the expansion, after passing
the background radiation, what would you see?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brane_cosmology

I dont think I have heard of a singularity being the start of the big
bang, but I found M-theory, and Brane Theory very interesting t say
the least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGnhsudTaRI

good thing to watch called elegant universe, Briane greene did a nova
special. This link is the one about the 11th dimensional Membrane we
could live on in this theory.

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Old June 2nd 07, 01:15 PM posted to alt.astronomy
G=EMC^2 Glazier[_1_]
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X= Reality is only gravity that can carry thought waves They can pass
through the membranes that separate universes. This makes
thinking(thoughts) instantaneous messages. It will be a big part of
cosmology a few million years from now. Bert

 




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