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Old July 17th 08, 02:53 PM posted to sci.space.history
Pat Flannery
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From Modern Mechanix:
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/...giant-rockets/
The rocket on the second page of the article is interesting in that it
lands its passengers in a separable capsule lowered to earth by a
parachute:
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/..._rockets_1.jpg
The booster apparently deploys three or four rotor blades and
auto-rotates back down to landing after capsule separation.
Having the rocket engines exhaust over the exterior of the LOX tank is a
little odd from a insulation point of view to say the least. :-D

Pat
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Old July 17th 08, 03:31 PM posted to sci.space.history
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On Jul 17, 9:53*am, Pat Flannery wrote:
*From Modern Mechanix:http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/...-seven-nations...
The rocket on the second page of the article is interesting in that it
lands its passengers in a separable capsule lowered to earth by a
parachute:http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/.../8-1931/giant_...
The booster apparently deploys three or four rotor blades and
auto-rotates back down to landing after capsule separation.
Having the rocket engines exhaust over the exterior of the LOX tank is a
little odd from a insulation point of view to say the least. :-D

Pat

Pat,

What a great picture. Especially the two crew, standing during
powered flight, and everyone so properly attired in coats and ties.

Take care all . . .

John
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Old July 17th 08, 10:11 PM posted to sci.space.history
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John wrote:
Pat,

What a great picture. Especially the two crew, standing during
powered flight, and everyone so properly attired in coats and ties.


I like the guy reading the newspaper. No doubt the boring morning
rocket commute to his job. :-)
Passenger capacity certainly wouldn't be much; looking at the capsule
size, you'd be lucky to squeeze ten passengers in there.
Also, acceleration isn't much, as the standing pilot and passenger show.
Somehow the link to the illustration got changed in your reply to one on
a DC-8 simulator; the correct image link is:
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/..._rockets_1.jpg

Pat

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Old July 18th 08, 02:04 AM posted to sci.space.history
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On Jul 18, 5:11*am, Pat Flannery wrote:

Also, acceleration isn't much, as the standing pilot and passenger show.


AIUI the Apollo LM crews stood up in harnesses while flying. What sort
of acceleration would they have experienced?
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Old July 18th 08, 04:45 AM posted to sci.space.history
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Neil Gerace wrote:
On Jul 18, 5:11 am, Pat Flannery wrote:


Also, acceleration isn't much, as the standing pilot and passenger show.


AIUI the Apollo LM crews stood up in harnesses while flying. What sort
of acceleration would they have experienced?


That's a good one; the ascent was pretty rapid as seen in the films of
the liftoff from the moon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXs4t...eature=related
Of course there's a odd factor in all this - even if the ascent
acceleration was 2 Gs, the Moon's low gravity would make it seem like1
and 1/6th G to the astronauts.

Pat
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Old July 18th 08, 06:06 AM posted to sci.space.history
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Pat Flannery wrote:

That's a good one; the ascent was pretty rapid as seen in the films of
the liftoff from the moon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXs4t...eature=related
Of course there's a odd factor in all this - even if the ascent
acceleration was 2 Gs, the Moon's low gravity would make it seem like1
and 1/6th G to the astronauts.


BTW, a weird coincidence from the early 1960's, before the seats in the
LM got dumped in favor of the upright harnesses;
the interior of Prof. Cavor's Moon Sphere from the movie "First Men In
The Moon" (1964 release) has the crew standing inside upright rope net
cylinders tied between the ceiling and the floor to cut the force of
impact on landing.
On wonders if the guys over at Grumman saw that movie and the concept
stuck in their minds.
Since NASA didn't have any ready-made video to show how the LOR concept
would work when it was first announced to the public after being chosen,
they used the opening sequence of the film to show the orbiting
component of the spacecraft and the lander separating in lunar orbit and
the lander descending to the Moon's surface.
Would that Apollo had been of that scale...you're talking two Nova
launches easy to assemble the two-component spacecraft that heads to the
Moon.

Pat
 




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