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Mission 2 to Mars with humans.
This would involve not landing the humans but rather using remote
robotic 'avatars' on the surface already prelanded on the surface. Control from orbit would decrease the time lag to manageable spans thus permitting human level effectiveness as the surface. This would require a perfecting of a shielded vessel for all forms of radiation and likely a spinning station/ship form to maintain bone and muscle. This would be able to do real science, IMHO with reduced risks for the humans. The proposed flyby first mission with humans looks to me as being just irradiated spam in a can taking a fast buzz by the planet. Things that buzz may sting................Trig |
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Mission 2 to Mars with humans.
On 28/02/2013 07:52, Nun Giver wrote:
This would involve not landing the humans but rather using remote robotic 'avatars' on the surface already prelanded on the surface. Control from orbit would decrease the time lag to manageable spans thus permitting human level effectiveness as the surface. This would require a perfecting of a shielded vessel for all forms of radiation and likely a spinning station/ship form to maintain bone and muscle. This would be able to do real science, IMHO with reduced risks for the humans. The proposed flyby first mission with humans looks to me as being just irradiated spam in a can taking a fast buzz by the planet. Things that buzz may sting................Trig Doesn't make sense to me. By the time we've achieved satisfactory robotic avatars to mimic 90% of the physical capabilities of humans our technology will be advanced enough to effortlessly land, protect while on the surface and then launch humans back into Mars orbit without breaking a sweat. -- T |
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Mission 2 to Mars with humans.
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:49:53 AM UTC-8, Hg wrote:
On 28/02/2013 07:52, Nun Giver wrote: This would involve not landing the humans but rather using remote robotic 'avatars' on the surface already prelanded on the surface. Control from orbit would decrease the time lag to manageable spans thus permitting human level effectiveness as the surface. This would require a perfecting of a shielded vessel for all forms of radiation and likely a spinning station/ship form to maintain bone and muscle. This would be able to do real science, IMHO with reduced risks for the humans. The proposed flyby first mission with humans looks to me as being just irradiated spam in a can taking a fast buzz by the planet. Things that buzz may sting................Trig Doesn't make sense to me. By the time we've achieved satisfactory robotic avatars to mimic 90% of the physical capabilities of humans our technology will be advanced enough to effortlessly land, protect while on the surface and then launch humans back into Mars orbit without breaking a sweat. -- T Understand they wouldn't be independent as I envision them; rather, they would simply be remotes. That tech is basically already here just look at robotic mules and the two legged Japanese robots. They would have the needed sense of balance while the orbiting astronaut could operate the arms. Working on harden remotes would permit working in hot and colder environments than those of Mars that would be crazy to land a human into no matter what sort of suit was provided. Remotes could be left on the surface. Launching from even Mars is likely costly. Imagine a remotely operated go cart with a camera operated from orbit, it certainly go faster than what we have on the surface of Mars now. It would take the develop of robotic hand that transmit a sense of feeling back to the operator. This should be a fairly trivial threshold of engineering and I'd suspect is already available. I wonder what sort of suit a human would require to walk around an exotic ice environment at 94 degrees C. I'd be concerned about melting into the dry ice............................Trig |
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