Israeli-Indian satellite to explore moon

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Israeli satellite to explore moon

Science Minister Zandberg discloses that India has proposed a joint
Israeli-Indian launching.
Arik Bender

Israel is about to make history and join the exclusive club of space
powers exploring the moon. Science Minister, Modi Zandberg, disclosed
at the Knesset Science Committee that Israel and India will cooperate
in launching a satellite to orbit the moon.

According to Zandberg, the Indian proposal was discreetly relayed to
him while visiting India last December. "India is planning to launch
its first satellite ever to the moon, in 2008. It proposed that we
participate in the project, and that we be partners in launching [the
satellite] and in exploring the moon", he related.

When Zandberg told Prime Minister Ariel Sharon about the proposal, the
Prime Minister reacted with enthusiasm. "The PM gave me his go-ahead,
and asked that I present him with detailed plans", Zandberg said. He
added that the Finance Ministry has also expressed its willingness to
allocate funds to the project. In addition, the Science Ministry has
turned to the space industry in Israel and to academic research
institutions with a request for research ideas.

One of the ideas being examined is to launch an Israeli secondary
satellite, which will separate from the Indian satellite and circle
the moon independently. With this development in mind, Israel is
examining the innovative development of a cost-effective satellite
engine.

Another proposal is for an Israeli space telescope to circle the moon.

On 28 Jan 2004 09:40:18 -0800, (Quant) wrote:

Israel is about to make history and join the exclusive club of space
powers exploring the moon. Science Minister, Modi Zandberg, disclosed
at the Knesset Science Committee that Israel and India will cooperate
in launching a satellite to orbit the moon.

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:Israel is about to make history and join the exclusive club of space
:powers exploring the moon. Science Minister, Modi Zandberg, disclosed
:at the Knesset Science Committee that Israel and India will cooperate
:in launching a satellite to orbit the moon.

A rather ingenious way to try and head off US criticism of the
Indian plans on "proliferation" grounds. Normally the US would look
askew at India playing around with big rockets (even if not really ICBM
like) and worse yet advanced payloads. But if Israel is involved, it's
gotta be kosher. So to speak.

regards,
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:52:26 +0000 (UTC), Steven James Forsberg
wrote:


:Israel is about to make history and join the exclusive club of space
:powers exploring the moon. Science Minister, Modi Zandberg, disclosed
:at the Knesset Science Committee that Israel and India will cooperate
:in launching a satellite to orbit the moon.

A rather ingenious way to try and head off US criticism of the
Indian plans on "proliferation" grounds. Normally the US would look
askew at India playing around with big rockets (even if not really ICBM
like) and worse yet advanced payloads. But if Israel is involved, it's
gotta be kosher. So to speak.

Yeah, cute...

India's space aspirations have been known for quite some time now.
Has the US expressed any concerns about them?

Dale

Although the Indian-Israeli moon shot was planned prior to
President Bush's recent announement for the U.S. to return
to the moon with international partners, this makes me
think that it is quite possible that the new U.S.
iniative will spur many other nations to get involved
in working together towards the establishing of a
permanent lunar base or bases. If for no other reason
than that there are U.S. dollars available for
certain launch and survey capabilities and those
nations that have demonstrated their capability will
be first in line when the contracts are handed out.

-McDaniel

In article ,
Hobbs aka McDaniel wrote:
...If for no other reason
than that there are U.S. dollars available for
certain launch and survey capabilities and those
nations that have demonstrated their capability will
be first in line when the contracts are handed out.

Sorry, no, US contractors will be first in line, and very likely there
will be a "no further applicants required" sign after the last US
contractor. Congress is **DEEPLY** averse to spending US tax dollars
anywhere that the workers don't vote in US elections. Essentially all
international space projects run on a "no money crosses borders" basis.
(Even within ESA, there are rules saying that over time, a nation's
contributions must be roughly balanced by contracts to that nation's
suppliers.)

Don't be confused by a couple of things that occurred on ISS. Those were
weird anomalies, not standard procedure.
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MOST launched 30 June; science observations running | Henry Spencer
since Oct; first surprises seen; papers pending. |

In article ,
Steven James Forsberg wrote:
A rather ingenious way to try and head off US criticism of the
Indian plans on "proliferation" grounds. Normally the US would look
askew at India playing around with big rockets (even if not really ICBM
like) and worse yet advanced payloads. But if Israel is involved...

Except that India is already in the big-rocket and advanced-payload
business. They've been building their own launchers, and their own
sizable satellites, for some time now.
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MOST launched 30 June; science observations running | Henry Spencer
since Oct; first surprises seen; papers pending. |

In article ,
Dale wrote:
India's space aspirations have been known for quite some time now.
Has the US expressed any concerns about them?

The US isn't exactly delighted about them on general principles, but has
had little opportunity to show its disapproval except in the engine fiasco
a few years ago.

(India wanted to buy LOX/LH2 engines and engine technology from Russia.
The US got upset and leaned on the Russians, citing "missile technology"
even though LH2 is grossly unsuited to missiles. India ended up buying a
few engines but [officially] no technology, and is now working on building
its own LOX/LH2 engines.)
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MOST launched 30 June; science observations running | Henry Spencer
since Oct; first surprises seen; papers pending. |

A year ago (February 1, 2003) we saw what happens when Hindustani and
Israeli cosmonauts get involved in space projects.

: A rather ingenious way to try and head off US criticism of the
:Indian plans on "proliferation" grounds. Normally the US would look
:askew at India playing around with big rockets (even if not really ICBM
:like) and worse yet advanced payloads. But if Israel is involved...

: Except that India is already in the big-rocket and advanced-payload
: business. They've been building their own launchers, and their own
: sizable satellites, for some time now.

And the US has been fretting a bit about how much such technology
transfers to projects like Agni and 'smart' warheads for Prithvi. In
addition, the US has stood between past Israeli-Indian deals on the
grounds of "destabilization of the region", but the two nations clearly
want to work together. They are both more than competent technically, and
pooling resources could assist both of them with all their space and
missile programs.

regards,
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