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On Apr 11, 1:05 pm, Phineas T Puddleduck
wrote: In article . com, wrote: We see that your bed wetting partner in crimes against humanity "Fart Deco" is stuck to my shoe like so much used toilet paper. That's what I get for using those public outhouses, like the one represented by this warm and fuzzy anti-think-tank of your mutually naysay Usenet, that's otherwise from his mostly Jewish crapolla hell on Earth that the likes of "Fart Deco" can't possibly get enough fornication out of. Well Brad if you do insist on posting such obvious BS, expect to be called out on it. We see that yet another of our resident bed wetting partners in crimes against humanity "Phineas T Puddleduck" is also stuck to my shoe like so much used toilet paper. That's what we all get for using those public outhouses, like the one represented by this warm and fuzzy anti- think-tank of your mutually naysay Usenet, that's otherwise from his mostly Jewish crapolla spewing hell on Earth, that which the likes of "Phineas T Puddleduck" and of his partner "Fart Deco" can't possibly get enough mutual fornication out of. - Brad Guth |
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We see that your bed wetting partner in crimes against humanity "Fart Deco" is stuck to my shoe like so much used toilet paper. That's what I get for using those public outhouses, like the one represented by this warm and fuzzy anti-think-tank of your mutually naysay Usenet, that's otherwise from his mostly Jewish crapolla hell on Earth that the likes of "Fart Deco" can't possibly get enough fornication out of. I see that I still live rent-free inside your skull, Brad. -- Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco "Still suffering from reading comprehension problems, Deco? The section is clearly attributed to Art Deco, not to you, Deco." -- Dr. David Tholen "Who is "David Tholen", Daedalus? Still suffering from attribution problems?" -- Dr. David Tholen |
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In article ,
Art Deco wrote: wrote: We see that your bed wetting partner in crimes against humanity "Fart Deco" is stuck to my shoe like so much used toilet paper. That's what I get for using those public outhouses, like the one represented by this warm and fuzzy anti-think-tank of your mutually naysay Usenet, that's otherwise from his mostly Jewish crapolla hell on Earth that the likes of "Fart Deco" can't possibly get enough fornication out of. I see that I still live rent-free inside your skull, Brad. And that would be a 40 room mansion with interior pool and 42 acres of grounds. -- Got mail? I did ;-) Three and counting. Got proof? Not yet, still waiting. |
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"Phineas T Puddleduck" wrote in message news In article , Art Deco wrote: wrote: We see that your bed wetting partner in crimes against humanity "Fart Deco" is stuck to my shoe like so much used toilet paper. That's what I get for using those public outhouses, like the one represented by this warm and fuzzy anti-think-tank of your mutually naysay Usenet, that's otherwise from his mostly Jewish crapolla hell on Earth that the likes of "Fart Deco" can't possibly get enough fornication out of. I see that I still live rent-free inside your skull, Brad. And that would be a 40 room mansion with interior pool and 42 acres of grounds. You live in Art's ass, Gay Duckie-Boi. HJ |
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These brown-nosed Jeswish clowns are funny, arnt they.
If only Hitler could see how nicely his cloning paid off. - Brad Guth |
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In sci.physics,
wrote on 11 Apr 2007 11:52:41 -0700 . com: On Apr 10, 9:36 pm, The Ghost In The Machine wrote: In sci.physics, wrote on 10 Apr 2007 12:24:22 -0700 .com: On Apr 8, 2:39 pm, The Ghost In The Machine wrote: So OK then. How does one convert CO2 to O2 in a 9.3 MPa, 860F environment? The same exact technical process as for doing Mars, except you don't have to import a nuclear reactor for accommodating the necessary process energy, nor having to wait for a year's worth of processing to take place, and therefore roughly less than 1% the cost and complications of doing Mars. I can't recall each of the technical steps in that process of converting co2 back into the raw elements of co/o2, but it's posted on the internet by the likes of Dr. Zubrin and several others if we ever need to know such specifics. Erm, the raw elements of CO2 are C and O2. CO is carbon monoxide. I do believe CO can be obtained as one of the CO2 process options, and is actually a perfectly usable rocket fuel, though I'm informed that it's not terribly thrust efficient nor clean to burn (perhaps worth more noise than thrust, but human hearing would likely have been intentionally disabled anyway). At nearly 100 bar, the human need of O2 isn't going to be 1%, with the remainder as H2 and we're good to go (actually as little as 0.5% O2 and 99.5% H2 should be doable). Venus has no actual shortage of O2 or H2, or actually there's no shortage of easily extracting teratonnes worth h2o from those relatively cool acidic clouds above the S8 layer, therefore h2o2 seems perfectly doable. Retrieved from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus: Pressu 9.3 MPa Composition: ~96.5% Carbon dioxide (8.97 MPa) ~3.5% Nitrogen (325.5 kPa) ..015% Sulfur dioxide (1395 Pa) ..007% Argon (651 Pa) ..002% Water vapor (186 Pa) ..0017% Carbon monoxide (158 Pa) The human need for O2 is approximately 21 kPa, or 0.226%. Surviving at VL2's POOF city is offering somewhat tenuous odds, as rather dependent upon how much shield is accomplishing how much actual good, and of the naked physical truth of having to avoid whatever is passing nearby or through your POOF that has your name on it. Otherwise this POOF city should be nearly as safe as ISS, although without benefit of a magnetosphere as shield from those waves upon waves of solar wind that's continually blowing the upper atmospheric stuff of Venus directly your way, is perhaps a bit more of an unknown. The lack of magnetosphere shouldn't be a problem, though I'd have to research the issue; most of the danger comes from the Sun, which is occluded. The peak spectrum of available solar energy is actually worth nearly 4 kw/m2, but as you say, most of that potential energy (including the very worse of halo CMEs) is being nicely isolated and/or diverted by way of Venus staying in the way. We can even utilize our gamma and hard-Xray shedding moon itself as a gravity boosted exit phase in getting to VL2, and upon our return we should be able once again to utilize that pesky mascon of a moon as our gravity parking brake. Only if one want to expose the participants to gamma and hard X rays. That is true, but we'd likely be going like a freaking bat out of hell, perhaps trekking out of town at 30+ km/s, which doesn't give our frail DNA all that much time of gamma and hard Xray TBI exposure to our naked moon that's so terribly reactive plus being a little extra radioactive to boot. In returning from VL2, the gravity braking maneuver(s) of another close swing or two past our nasty moon would also be accomplished at a fairly great deal of velocity, therefore once again our frail DNA shouldn't get traumatised past the point of no return if we're only talking about adding minutes or perhaps seconds worth of peak exposure as to whatever cobalt hard or even titanium soft gamma that moon as to deliver. Too bad we don't have those station keeping robust habitats at our moon's L1 for safely accommodating such crew and passengers returning from whatever other worlds or moons, or better yet of there being something deep underground upon our salty moon would become nearly the ideal biological isolation, offering the ultimate solution that's close enough to home to suit for all but physical contact. We can put them there, if you like. It's mostly a question of boost. I would very much like that, especially if this effort can start off with getting a 10,000 kg package parked into the moon's L1, with more features and possibly habitat added as time and resources allow (AKA somewhat Clarke Station). I agree, in that possibly a boost of using roughly a 120:1 ratio of rocket per payload should accomplish the deployment task quickly enough, whereas otherwise if being of a robotic platform of science instruments, whereas it could be given a lunar month to get there, in which case perhaps as little as a modern 80:1 ratio of a sufficiently low inert mass worth of rocket/payload should more than do the trick. You folks wouldn't happen to have a spare rocket sitting around? - Brad Guth Mi/Mf = 120 v = Escape velocity = 11.2 km/s v_e = exhaust velocity = v/log(Mi/Mf) = 11200 / log(120) = 2339 Doable (Saturn V had a v_e of about 2500 m/s) but difficult. -- #191, Linux. The choice of a GNU generation. Windows. 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