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Lab fireball 'may be black hole'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4357613.stm Lab fireball 'may be black hole' Creating the conditions for the formation of black holes is one of the aims of particle physics A fireball created in a US particle accelerator has the characteristics of a black hole, a physicist has said. It was generated at the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) in New York, US, which smashes beams of gold nuclei together at near light speeds. Horatiu Nastase says his calculations show that the core of the fireball has a striking similarity to a black hole. His work has been published on the pre-print website arxiv.org and is reported in New Scientist magazine. When the gold nuclei smash into each other they are broken down into particles called quarks and gluons. These form a ball of plasma about 300 times hotter than the surface of the Sun. This fireball, which lasts just 10 million, billion, billionths of a second, can be detected because it absorbs jets of particles produced by the beam collisions. But Nastase, of Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, says there is something unusual about it. Ten times as many jets were being absorbed by the fireball as were predicted by calculations. The Brown researcher thinks the particles are disappearing into the fireball's core and reappearing as thermal radiation, just as matter is thought to fall into a black hole and come out as "Hawking" radiation. However, even if the ball of plasma is a black hole, it is not thought to pose a threat. At these energies and distances, gravity is not the dominant force in a black hole. The RHIC is sited at the Brookhaven National Laboratory. ------------------------------------- Fed up with illegal immigration? _____ http://www.saveourstate.org http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frostyA.htm http://www.americanpatrol.com/LINKS/LINKS.html http://www.vdare.com/links.htm http://www.stoptheinvasion.com/links/ _____ "Cosmic upheaval is not so moving as a little child pondering the death of a sparrow in the corner of a barn." -Anouk Aimee, French Actor _____ "Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny", Aeschylus (525BC-456BC), Agamemnon _____ "I wear no Burka." - Mother Nature ---------- To send mail: remove hutch |
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:22:39 GMT, Bunn E. Rabbit
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4357613.stm Lab fireball 'may be black hole' Creating the conditions for the formation of black holes is one of the aims of particle physics A fireball created in a US particle accelerator has the characteristics of a black hole, a physicist has said. It was generated at the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) in New York, US, which smashes beams of gold nuclei together at near light speeds. Horatiu Nastase says his calculations show that the core of the fireball has a striking similarity to a black hole. WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!! RUN FOR THE HILLS!! -- V.G. "i would blame them it they went on a holy jhiad and killed off all the infidels, would you?" - AssLexa's "200+" alien-implanted IQ jumps the rails and crashes into a grade school, killing all inside. Change pobox dot alaska to gci. Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield. |
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:18:26 -0900, "Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)"
in accordance with The Prophecy scribed: On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:22:39 GMT, Bunn E. Rabbit wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4357613.stm Lab fireball 'may be black hole' Creating the conditions for the formation of black holes is one of the aims of particle physics A fireball created in a US particle accelerator has the characteristics of a black hole, a physicist has said. It was generated at the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) in New York, US, which smashes beams of gold nuclei together at near light speeds. Horatiu Nastase says his calculations show that the core of the fireball has a striking similarity to a black hole. WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!! RUN FOR THE HILLS!! Daymn, not again! -- DrPostman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed" Member,Board of Directors, afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® #15-51506-253. AFA-B Official Pollster & Hammer of Thor winner - August 2004 You can email me at: DrPostman(at)gmail.com "Skepticism's bad rap arises from the impression that, however necessary the activity, it can only be regarded as a negative removal of false claims. Not so... Proper debunking is done in the interest of an alternate model of explanation, not as a nihilistic exercise. The alternate model is rationality itself, tied to moral decency--the most powerful joint instrument for good that our planet has ever known." -Stephen Jay Gould |
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:34:27 GMT, DrPostman
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message : On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:18:26 -0900, "Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" in accordance with The Prophecy scribed: On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:22:39 GMT, Bunn E. Rabbit wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4357613.stm Lab fireball 'may be black hole' Creating the conditions for the formation of black holes is one of the aims of particle physics A fireball created in a US particle accelerator has the characteristics of a black hole, a physicist has said. It was generated at the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) in New York, US, which smashes beams of gold nuclei together at near light speeds. Horatiu Nastase says his calculations show that the core of the fireball has a striking similarity to a black hole. WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!! RUN FOR THE HILLS!! Daymn, not again! Yup, DOOOOOOOMED. Again. -- V.G. "i would blame them it they went on a holy jhiad and killed off all the infidels, would you?" - AssLexa's "200+" alien-implanted IQ jumps the rails and crashes into a grade school, killing all inside. Change pobox dot alaska to gci. Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield. |
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I predict the man made black hole will consume the East coast of the
USA. |
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Monkey Boy wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:34:27 GMT, DrPostman wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message : On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:18:26 -0900, "Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" in accordance with The Prophecy scribed: On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:22:39 GMT, Bunn E. Rabbit wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4357613.stm Lab fireball 'may be black hole' Creating the conditions for the formation of black holes is one of the aims of particle physics A fireball created in a US particle accelerator has the characteristics of a black hole, a physicist has said. It was generated at the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) in New York, US, which smashes beams of gold nuclei together at near light speeds. Horatiu Nastase says his calculations show that the core of the fireball has a striking similarity to a black hole. WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!! RUN FOR THE HILLS!! Daymn, not again! Yup, DOOOOOOOMED. Again. doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed again. -- Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler "a photon can travel faster than light when it is not excited" "Ions are attracted to IRON" "The dense ions in the ionosphere are simulating a much higher gravitational pull to earth." -- Alexa Cameron demonstrates her 200+ alien-implanted IQ "I really don't care too much for humans" "Just think of all the fun watching them from above while they dance their kooker-step on their burning planet ..." -- Chuckweasel Bohnehead's delusional non-human self-image |
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"Bunn E. Rabbit" wrote in message
... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4357613.stm Lab fireball 'may be black hole' There was a SciFi short story about this. Controlled "burst" fusion was being used to produce power, and tiny black holes were orbitting through the Earth. Before we knew about Hawking radiation, I presume. David A. Smith |
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, it was written: "Bunn E. Rabbit" wrote in message ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4357613.stm Lab fireball 'may be black hole' There was a SciFi short story about this. Controlled "burst" fusion was being used to produce power, and tiny black holes were orbitting through the Earth. Before we knew about Hawking radiation, I presume. Except, again, I feel the need to point out that the article in question has nothing to do with black holes as people are thinking of them. |
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Bunn E. Rabbit wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4357613.stm Lab fireball 'may be black hole' Zero chance. Since the only people in the whole universe to date that believe that Hawking radiation comes from anywhere other than the Internet are Hawking and his lab astrologers in Australia, Los Angelos, and New York. Creating the conditions for the formation of black holes is one of the aims of particle physics A fireball created in a US particle accelerator has the characteristics of a black hole, a physicist has said. It was generated at the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) in New York, US, which smashes beams of gold nuclei together at near light speeds. Horatiu Nastase says his calculations show that the core of the fireball has a striking similarity to a black hole. His work has been published on the pre-print website arxiv.org and is reported in New Scientist magazine. When the gold nuclei smash into each other they are broken down into particles called quarks and gluons. These form a ball of plasma about 300 times hotter than the surface of the Sun. This fireball, which lasts just 10 million, billion, billionths of a second, can be detected because it absorbs jets of particles produced by the beam collisions. But Nastase, of Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, says there is something unusual about it. Ten times as many jets were being absorbed by the fireball as were predicted by calculations. The Brown researcher thinks the particles are disappearing into the fireball's core and reappearing as thermal radiation, just as matter is thought to fall into a black hole and come out as "Hawking" radiation. However, even if the ball of plasma is a black hole, it is not thought to pose a threat. At these energies and distances, gravity is not the dominant force in a black hole. That's quite obvious, since gravity is not the dominant force in a spin hole either. Since Brookhaven has been redesiginated as a US National Laboratory as: The Intergalatic Galileo Wannabee Laboratory. And so hence, does not permit travel to Mars. The RHIC is sited at the Brookhaven National Laboratory. ------------------------------------- Fed up with illegal immigration? _____ http://www.saveourstate.org http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frostyA.htm http://www.americanpatrol.com/LINKS/LINKS.html http://www.vdare.com/links.htm http://www.stoptheinvasion.com/links/ _____ "Cosmic upheaval is not so moving as a little child pondering the death of a sparrow in the corner of a barn." -Anouk Aimee, French Actor _____ "Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny", Aeschylus (525BC-456BC), Agamemnon _____ "I wear no Burka." - Mother Nature ---------- To send mail: remove hutch |
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Dear Creighton Hogg:
"Creighton Hogg" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, it was written: "Bunn E. Rabbit" wrote in message ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4357613.stm Lab fireball 'may be black hole' There was a SciFi short story about this. Controlled "burst" fusion was being used to produce power, and tiny black holes were orbitting through the Earth. Before we knew about Hawking radiation, I presume. Except, again, I feel the need to point out that the article in question has nothing to do with black holes as people are thinking of them. The article was pretty clear that fewer constituent particles than expected were seen coming out, but lots of purportedly Hawking radiation... indicating that the holes were evaporating. What do you fear they are thinking of, permanent structures that continue to absorb mass and growing larger? Apparently not the case. David A. Smith |
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