"President Must Answer to Downing Street Memo"

Jim Logajan wrote:


He then addressed journalists wearing a hangman's noose instead of a
necktie.

He later told the Washington Post newspaper that the message to Saddam
Hussein was: "If you want to execute me, I'll bring my own [expletive]
rope.""



That's just about the stupidest thing I've ever heard of a diplomat
doing. Rather than wearign a noose, he should have been wearing a
shotgun and a bandolier, with a message of "If you want to execute me,
I'll **** you up."

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"The only thing that galls me about someone burning the American flag is how unoriginal it is. I mean if you're going to pull the Freedom-of-speech card, don't be a hack, come up with something interesting. Fashion Old Glory into a wisecracking puppet and blister the system with a scathing ventriloquism act, or better yet, drape the flag over your head and desecrate it with a large caliber bullet hole." Dennis Miller

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 04:11:43 -0000, in a place far, far away, Jim
Logajan made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

(Rand Simberg) wrote:
laughing

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/007135.php

Humorous indeed! For more belly laughs, consider:

If Joseph Wilson can be claimed a liar because he claimed his wife had
nothing to do with his being sent to Africa when in fact she suggested he
be sent, then Rand Simberg can be claimed a liar for claiming that the
entry in "Who's Who in America" for Joseph Wilson lists his wife as working
for the CIA, when he knows no such thing.

Or more fairly, perhaps Joseph Wilson and Rand Simberg are guilty of
nothing more than relying on bad memory or memory colored by other
considerations.

Yes, the other consideration in this case an attempt to make the
president out to be a liar. In any event, there was no crime
committed here, and all of this howling for Rove's head is hilarious.

Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:01:43 +0000 (UTC), in a place far, far away,
: (Eric Chomko) made the phosphor on my
: monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

: : Laughing? Right, just like right before the Great Depression, McCarthyism
: : and Watergate, the three biggest debacles by the GOP in the 20th Century.
: : It is another generation and the Republicans are ready for another
: : screwup. Perhaps Iraq? Looks like more are getting killed there everyday.
:
: : Yes, people are dying in a war. What a scandal.
:
: Getting killed but not at war. More like what is happening in Israel
: (today) and London last week. War is one thing, road side bombings and the
: like is quite another.

: No, it's a war, in all three places.

No it isn't! You, by calling it war, gives it too much credibility. THEY
want Jihad (war). What they get is slaughter. Beneath war. And unless you
and like minded people stop calling slaughter of innocents "war", then
you'll never get them to stop. Do not equate terrorism with war, as it
isn't the same thing despite what they think.

What military target was hit in Israel yesterday?

: : Also, if Rove mentioned the CIA agent but didn't give Novak her name,
: : then how did Novak know her name?
:
: : Her name, and occupation, were common knowledge inside the Beltway, as
: : Andrea Mitchell admitted recently. And if not, it wouldn't take much
: : research for Novak to find out the name of Joe Wilson's wife. It's
: : probably far beyond your abilities, but it's pretty easy for someone
: : of reasonable intelligence.
:
: If it is such a simple matter to find out the identity of a CIA agent,
: then why does the governemnt go out of its way to hide their identities?

: She wasn't a CIA agent. She was a desk analyst. She was not covert.
: She drove to Langley every day in her BMW.

Okay, then why did someone (Rove?) mention her name at all? What purpose
did mentioning her name actually serve? Why did Novak then mention her
name?

: Rove broke no laws, as the law is written.

Only because she wasn't working overseas. THAT is the only reason he
didn't break the law! Forget the law, what he did was immoral and
poltically driven. That is unless he lied to a Grand Jury about what he
said or didn't say. If that be the case then, like Clinton, he broke the
law. Wouldn't that be a interesting twist of fate for Bush's brain?

: You see, this is a case where the keepers of the faith went above the law
: for political reasons. If a Dem had leaked the identity of a CIA agent the
: GOP would want that person drawn and quartered. The shoe is on the other
: foot and everyone is supposed to simply look the other way? I don't think
: so!

: Novak didn't just dream up Plume's name from no place, SOMEONE leaked her
: name.

: Everyone knew who Joe Wilson's wife was.

Even you? Why bring up her name? A distraction from the fact that Bush and
Co. lied their ass off about yellowcake urainium and Niger to justify
attacking Iraq when the war was with Afghanistan?

You claim everyone knew about Plume? Well everyone knows that Bush used
the attacks of 9/11 to implement the PNAC agenda of attacking Iraq.

All Wilson did was not let Bush get away with lying about Saddam trying to
get WMD.

Eric

Scott M. Kozel ) wrote:
: (Eric Chomko) wrote:
:
: Scott M. Kozel ) wrote:
: : (Eric Chomko) wrote:
: : wrote:
: : : (Eric Chomko) wrote:
: :
: : : You conservatives have control of all three branches of the governement
: : : and simply can't handle it. The worst part is crap like you posted above.
: : : You go away! I'm staying!
: :
: : : Nothing like laughing at the antics of liberal/socialist
: : : losers. They are darn right funny when they
: : : are outta power.
: :
: : Laughing? Right, just like right before the Great Depression, McCarthyism
: : and Watergate, the three biggest debacles by the GOP in the 20th Century.
: : It is another generation and the Republicans are ready for another
: : screwup. Perhaps Iraq? Looks like more are getting killed there everyday.
:
: : Actually, the Dems are in the process of their biggest debacle as they
: : melt down and make a power dive leading to a smoking hole in the ground.
:
: By the time W is out of office any Dem will be able to beat any Rep for
: president. People will simply be tired of them. He really hasn't done
: anything in his second term. NOTHING!

: Pure fantasy. The Dems continue to lose elections, and they dig their
: hole deeper day by day.

Hole deeper? Just like the success of the mixing bowl down in Springfield,
VA, Scott? You have anything to do with that mess? hahahaha

The Reps are due for another debacle like Watergate.

Eric

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:05:13 -0000, in a place far, far away, Jim
Logajan made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

(Rand Simberg) wrote:
And everyone knew that his
wife worked for the CIA, partly because he had put the fact that his
wife worked for the CIA in his "Who's Who" citation.

Not even Novak claims that the "Who's Who" entry stated she worked for the
CIA. If it had, I'm confident he would have crowed about it - but his
precise words re the entry were "Her name, Valerie Plame, was no secret
either, appearing in Wilson's "Who's Who in America" entry."

All right, I was mistaken about the last point. But the point remains
that the name of his wife was no secret, except to morons like Eric
Chomko.

People should be asking why Judith Miller remains in jail. It can't
be to protect Karl Rove, because he's already been outed by Newsweek,
and he's signed a release, so she could get out of jail by simply
revealing him as a source now, with no fear of being accused of
burning a source. So who is she protecting?

My guess is that she's protecting Judith Miller, and the fiction that
Rove committed a crime..

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:16:51 GMT, in a place far, far away,
h (Rand Simberg) made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

People should be asking why Judith Miller remains in jail. It can't
be to protect Karl Rove, because he's already been outed by Newsweek,

Sorry, that should have been Time. I don't read either publication
regularly, but they seem so similar to me I tend to get them confused.

Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:41:42 -0500, in a place far, far away, Pat
: Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
: such a way as to indicate that:

:
:
: Eric Chomko wrote:
:
:
: Novak didn't just dream up Plume's name from no place, SOMEONE leaked her
: name.
:
:
:
: It's becoming increasingly apparent that it was Rove:
: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8545657/
: In my opinion, it couldn't happen to a nicer guy. :-D

: Sorry, but Rove didn't "leak" her name. He just pointed out that the
: stupid decision to send liar, Joe Wilson, to Niger wasn't because
: Cheney sent him, but because his wife (whose name he didn't provide),
: who worked at the CIA, put them up to it. And everyone knew that his
: wife worked for the CIA, partly because he had put the fact that his
: wife worked for the CIA in his "Who's Who" citation.

: This is a huge nothingburger, except to intellect-challenged folks
: (like Eric), though hopefully not you.

No, this just shows the extent that the Bush adminstration will go to help
out their friends at PNAC to implement their agenda. Bush started another
oil war and folks like Wilson didn't play along with Bush's "Saddam has
WMD" ruse and Bush's people wanted to make an example of him. One John
Dean-type in W's admininstration could turn the whole thing into another
Watergate. It is clear that the politics of this whole thing is NOT in the
best interest of American and her people just a select few rich
industrialists of whom Bush represents.

Eric

Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:05:13 -0000, in a place far, far away, Jim
: Logajan made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
: such a way as to indicate that:

: (Rand Simberg) wrote:
: And everyone knew that his
: wife worked for the CIA, partly because he had put the fact that his
: wife worked for the CIA in his "Who's Who" citation.
:
: Not even Novak claims that the "Who's Who" entry stated she worked for the
: CIA. If it had, I'm confident he would have crowed about it - but his
: precise words re the entry were "Her name, Valerie Plame, was no secret
: either, appearing in Wilson's "Who's Who in America" entry."

: All right, I was mistaken about the last point. But the point remains
: that the name of his wife was no secret, except to morons like Eric
: Chomko.

So you admit you made a mistake and the call me a moron? Slimey for even
you Rand. Or perhaps not...

: People should be asking why Judith Miller remains in jail.

Sort of makes you wonder why a member of the "liberal media" is protecting
the Bush administration's brain, doesn't it?

: It can't
: be to protect Karl Rove, because he's already been outed by Newsweek,
: and he's signed a release, so she could get out of jail by simply
: revealing him as a source now, with no fear of being accused of
: burning a source. So who is she protecting?

Makes you wonder...

: My guess is that she's protecting Judith Miller, and the fiction that
: Rove committed a crime..

THAT makes no sense! Your beliefs are in the way of any logic you may
actually have.

Eric

Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:16:51 GMT, in a place far, far away,
: h (Rand Simberg) made the phosphor on my
: monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

: People should be asking why Judith Miller remains in jail. It can't
: be to protect Karl Rove, because he's already been outed by Newsweek,

: Sorry, that should have been Time. I don't read either publication
: regularly, but they seem so similar to me I tend to get them confused.

The fact that you are confused is true...

Eric Chomko wrote:

That is unless he lied to a Grand Jury about what he
said or didn't say. If that be the case then, like Clinton, he broke the
law. Wouldn't that be a interesting twist of fate for Bush's brain?



Some would call it karma; I would call it just desserts.

Pat