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Michelson and Morley experiment
On Nov 12, 2:06*pm, PD wrote:
Didn't have to copy it at all. The first and second experiments I repeated myself, with some colleagues. The third was directly verified in experiments by colleagues. Been there, examined the apparatus, reviewed the data and the analysis. PD- It's biased then. *Do not quote your research. *Somebody may really examine them and find that you fiddled the data. *You may lose your degree and your job retroactively. I invite the examination. That's the point of corroboration in research. The results I gave are corroborated. The corroboration by independent investigators is science's way of guarding against bias. Good. Since you invite the examination, provide the links. |
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Michelson and Morley experiment
On Nov 12, 2:42*pm, Dono wrote:
On Nov 12, 9:30*am, "Strich.9" wrote: On Nov 12, 11:33*am, Dono wrote: On Nov 12, 8:19 am, "Strich.9" wrote: 1) You have a clock and I have a clock. We are at relative rest. 2) Both clocks are ticking at the same rate. Correct 3) I move at v=0.41c. *My clock rate does not change locally. Correct 4) You are left behind. *Your clock rate does not change locally. Correct, you are getting it 5) Since neither clock changed, WHERE IS TIME DILATION? If you send me a signal every second measured on your clock I will detect that the separation between these signals to be MORE than one second on my clock. If I send you a signal every second measured on my clock, you will detect that the separation between these signals to be MORE than one second on your clock. The above is called time dilation, it has been confirmed experimentally. Got that, persistent imbecile? CONTRIVED explanation. What if nobody sends a signal? *Does time dilation still exist? * If nobody sends signals there is no way of comparing clocks, persistent imbecile. Time dilation (like length contraction) is all about comparing measurements between observers in motion, old fart.- Do I need to send signals to measure mass? Do I need to send signals to measure energy? Do I need to send signals to measure distance? Do I need to send signals to measure regular time? NO NO NO NO Now you are free to illustrate your signal happy method and illustrate how much time dilation is in the following setup: 1) You have a clock and I have a clock. We are at relative rest. 2) Both clocks are ticking at the same rate. 3) I move at v=0.41c. My clock rate does not change locally. NO CHANGE, got that? 4) You are left behind. Your clock rate does not change locally. NO CHANGE, got that? 5) Since neither clock changed, WHERE IS TIME DILATION? OH I FORGOT. Your method is only good in theory. It cannot make actual measurements. Not even in a hypothetical example. |
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Michelson and Morley experiment
On Nov 12, 11:54*am, "Strich.9" wrote:
snip imbecilities Stubborn old fart, How do you plan to find out the results of a measurement executed in a lab that is moving wrt your lab without exchanging signals? |
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Michelson and Morley experiment
On Nov 12, 6:06*pm, Dono wrote:
On Nov 12, 11:54*am, "Strich.9" wrote: snip imbecilities Stubborn old fart, How do you plan to find out the results of a measurement executed in a lab that is moving wrt your lab without exchanging signals? Does the act of exchanging signals change the results of the measurement in the moving lab? NO. Can I perform the same measurement in my lab and be guaranteed the same result? YES. That is frame invariance. Therefore I can simply perform the same measurement in my non-moving lab and get the same measurement. Instead of measuring the time in the moving LAB clock, I can measure the time in my OWN identical clock. Will this time be the same time? OF COURSE. Oh wait, you cannot understand this simple idea because you are COMPELLED by your faith in relativity to introduce that time dilation factor. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Too bad. |
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Michelson and Morley experiment
On Nov 12, 4:13*pm, wrote:
On Nov 12, 6:06*pm, Dono wrote: On Nov 12, 11:54*am, "Strich.9" wrote: snip imbecilities Stubborn old fart, How do you plan to find out the results of a measurement executed in a lab that is moving wrt your lab without exchanging signals? Does the act of exchanging signals change the results of the measurement in the moving lab? *NO. Can I perform the same measurement in my lab and be guaranteed the same result? *YES. * Old fart, Time dilation is about what someone in a lab MOVING wrt your lab measures. How stoopid are you? That is frame invariance. Umm, no, old fart. You can take a break from talking about things you have no clue about :-) |
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Michelson and Morley experiment
On Nov 12, 7:22*pm, Dono wrote:
On Nov 12, 4:13*pm, wrote: On Nov 12, 6:06*pm, Dono wrote: On Nov 12, 11:54*am, "Strich.9" wrote: snip imbecilities Stubborn old fart, How do you plan to find out the results of a measurement executed in a lab that is moving wrt your lab without exchanging signals? Does the act of exchanging signals change the results of the measurement in the moving lab? *NO. Can I perform the same measurement in my lab and be guaranteed the same result? *YES. * Old fart, Time dilation is about what someone in a lab MOVING wrt your lab measures. How stoopid are you? so WHERE is this time dilation fetish you are so obsessed with in the example below: 1) You have a clock and I have a clock. We are at relative rest. 2) Both clocks are ticking at the same rate. 3) I move at v=0.41c. My clock rate does not change locally. NO CHANGE, got that? 4) You are left behind. Your clock rate does not change locally. NO CHANGE, got that? 5) Since neither clock changed, WHERE IS TIME DILATION? |
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Michelson and Morley experiment
On Nov 12, 4:37*pm, wrote:
On Nov 12, 7:22*pm, Dono wrote: On Nov 12, 4:13*pm, wrote: On Nov 12, 6:06*pm, Dono wrote: On Nov 12, 11:54*am, "Strich.9" wrote: snip imbecilities Stubborn old fart, How do you plan to find out the results of a measurement executed in a lab that is moving wrt your lab without exchanging signals? Does the act of exchanging signals change the results of the measurement in the moving lab? *NO. Can I perform the same measurement in my lab and be guaranteed the same result? *YES. * Old fart, Time dilation is about what someone in a lab MOVING wrt your lab measures. How stoopid are you? so WHERE is this time dilation fetish you are so obsessed with in the example below: 1) You have a clock and I have a clock. We are at relative rest. 2) Both clocks are ticking at the same rate. 3) I move at v=0.41c. *My clock rate does not change locally. *NO CHANGE, got that? 4) You are left behind. *Your clock rate does not change locally. *NO CHANGE, got that? 5) Since neither clock changed, WHERE IS TIME DILATION?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You are an IMBECILE, old fart :-) |
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Michelson and Morley experiment
On Nov 12, 7:42*pm, Dono wrote:
You are an IMBECILE, old fart :-)- -- Sample of low IQ reply. |
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Michelson and Morley experiment
On Nov 12, 1:49*pm, "Strich.9" wrote:
On Nov 12, 2:06*pm, PD wrote: Didn't have to copy it at all. The first and second experiments I repeated myself, with some colleagues. The third was directly verified in experiments by colleagues. Been there, examined the apparatus, reviewed the data and the analysis. PD- It's biased then. *Do not quote your research. *Somebody may really examine them and find that you fiddled the data. *You may lose your degree and your job retroactively. I invite the examination. That's the point of corroboration in research. The results I gave are corroborated. The corroboration by independent investigators is science's way of guarding against bias. Good. *Since you invite the examination, provide the links. I have already. Don't you remember me pointing you directly to the g-2 links, as well as the experimental paper on the pi-zero decays? That wasn't that long ago. What happened to your memory? Did you have electroshock therapy this week? Can't you look up where I did that on google? Don't know how to do it? Exactly how many times do you want to be spoonfed the very same thing over and over and over again? You baited me once into spoonfeeding you. I think at this point it's just worth pointing out that you have significant short-term memory loss. What medication are you taking for that? PD |
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Michelson and Morley experiment
On Nov 13, 8:38*am, PD wrote:
On Nov 12, 1:49*pm, "Strich.9" wrote: On Nov 12, 2:06*pm, PD wrote: Didn't have to copy it at all. The first and second experiments I repeated myself, with some colleagues. The third was directly verified in experiments by colleagues. Been there, examined the apparatus, reviewed the data and the analysis. PD- It's biased then. *Do not quote your research. *Somebody may really examine them and find that you fiddled the data. *You may lose your degree and your job retroactively. I invite the examination. That's the point of corroboration in research. The results I gave are corroborated. The corroboration by independent investigators is science's way of guarding against bias. Good. *Since you invite the examination, provide the links. I have already. Don't you remember me pointing you directly to the g-2 links, as well as the experimental paper on the pi-zero decays? That wasn't that long ago. What happened to your memory? Did you have electroshock therapy this week? Can't you look up where I did that on google? Don't know how to do it? Exactly how many times do you want to be spoonfed the very same thing over and over and over again? You baited me once into spoonfeeding you. I think at this point it's just worth pointing out that you have significant short-term memory loss. What medication are you taking for that? PD- Go ahead, continue LYING. That's what RELATIVITY is all about. |
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