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Old September 12th 07, 08:40 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
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http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/Out...blic_Lectures/
"Perimeter Institute brings great thinkers from around the world to
Canada to share their ideas on a wide variety of interesting and
topical subjects....Alain Aspect: "From Einstein's Intuition to
Quantum Bits" October 3, 2007 at 7:00 pm.......Alain Aspect is a
leading figure with the Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique
(CNRS, France's National Center for Scientific Research) where he is
Senior Scientist at Institut d'Optique and Professor at Ecole
Poytechnique. Both institutions are on the same campus at Palaiseau.
Among his many awards and honours, Prof. Aspect is recipient of the
2005 CNRS Gold Medal, the highest academic recognition in France, as
well as a member of the Academie des Sciences and the Academie des
Technologies."

This great thinker Alain Aspect is able to refute Einstein because he
is a member of the Academie des Sciences and also because his idiocies
are greater than, imcompatible and even incommensurable with,
Einstein's idiocies:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...ein-never.html
"The man who proved Einstein was wrong: Albert Einstein never 24
November 1990 NewScientist.com news service JOHN GRIBBIN.....After a
further two decades, in the 1980s, experimenters in Paris, headed by
Alain Aspect, were able to carry out an experiment along the lines
proposed by Bell. The experiments showed that common sense and
Einstein were wrong.....Hardly surprisingly, this result has been
described by Brian Josephson, when at Cambridge University, as the
most important recent advance in physics.....The only way to save
quantum uncertainty in the context of the EPR 'thought experiment' is
to allow what Einstein referred to as a 'spooky action at a distance',
a communication that operates instantaneously between the two
particles even when they are far apart, so that particle A can be
disturbed by the measurement made on particle B - a communication that
Einstein, the originator of relativity theory, could never accept,
since it seemed to travel faster than light.....But just suppose that
the world is super-deterministic, with not just inanimate nature
running on behind-the-scences clockwork, but with our behaviour,
including our belief that we are free to choose to do one experiment
rather than another, absolutely predetermined. If everything is
predetermined, including the 'decision' by the experimenter to carry
out one set of measurements rather than another, the difficulty
disappears. There is no need for a faster than light signal to tell
particle A what measurement has been carried out on particle B,
because the Universe, including particle A, already 'knows' what that
measurement, and its outcome, will be."

Alain Aspect may initially explain Einstein's initial intuition that
misled him into believing that the speed of light obeys the field
concept dealing with light in terms of continuous structures:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/ "...light is
always propagated in empty space with a definite velocity c which is
independent of the state of motion of the emitting body."

Then Alain Aspect may find it suitable to explain Einstein's final
intuition that contradicts Einstein's initial intuition:

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf...09145525ca.pdf
Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot
be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures.
Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the
theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary
physics."

Pentcho Valev

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Old September 12th 07, 04:12 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
Pentcho Valev
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Default PERIMETER INSTITUTE MAY ALSO REFUTE EINSTEIN

Perhaps the Perimeter Institute (one of the subdivisions of the
Ministry of Silly Walks) wants to advance La Marche Futile - an
extremely silly walk developed by l'Academie des Sciences, and the
great thinker Alain Aspect will be the main protagonist. La Marche
Futile is mentioned at the end of the following presentation of the
Ministry of Silly Walks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhlQfXUk7w

Pentcho Valev

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Old September 16th 07, 04:50 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
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Default PERIMETER INSTITUTE MAY ALSO REFUTE EINSTEIN

On 12 Sept, 17:12, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Perhaps the Perimeter Institute (one of the subdivisions of the
Ministry of Silly Walks) wants to advance La Marche Futile - an
extremely silly walk developed by l'Academie des Sciences, and the
great thinker Alain Aspect will be the main protagonist. La Marche
Futile is mentioned at the end of the following presentation of the
Ministry of Silly Walks:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhlQfXUk7w

Another subdivision of the Ministry of Silly Walks - the Royal Society
- has undergone an interesting development:

Twelve years ago (silly walkers still know no limits):

http://www.totse.com/en/technology/s.../ftltravl.html
: "ASTRONOMERS PREDICT FASTER THAN LIGHT SPACE TRAVEL. It is boldly
going where no reputable scientific body has gone before.
Contradicting Einstein, the normally conservative Royal Astronomical
Society is about to publish a report predicting that mankind will be
able to travel faster than the speed of light. The breakthrough means
that Star Trek fantasies of interstellar civilisations and voyages
powered by warp drive are now no longer the exclusive domain of
science fiction writers...Crawford argues that modern physics may
allow two possible ways around Einstein's theory....The theories will
boost growing interest among scientists in the possibility of
travelling faster than light. The IPS, whose members include several
NASA engineers, starts its first conference shortly in Halifax, Nova
Scotia."

Six years ago (concern is growing in the Ministry of Silly Walks):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/519406/posts : "A GROUP of
astronomers and cosmologists has warned that the laws thought to
govern the universe, including Albert Einstein's theory of relativity,
must be rewritten. The group, which includes Professor Stephen Hawking
and Sir Martin Rees, the astronomer royal, say such laws may only work
for our universe but not in others that are now also thought to
exist.....AMONG THE IDEAS FACING REVISION IS EINSTEIN'S BELIEF THAT
THE SPEED OF LIGHT MUST ALWAYS BE THE SAME - 186,000 miles a second in
a vacuum.....Rees, Hawking and others are so concerned at the impact
of such ideas that they recently organised a private conference in
Cambridge for more than 30 leading cosmologists."

Now the Ministry of Silly Walks is silent. Silly walkers feel that
something awful has happened:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/ingdahl2.html
"But there has been a marked global decrease of students willing to
study physics, and funding has decreased accordingly. Not only that,
the best students are not heading for studies in physics, finding
other fields more appealing, and science teachers to schools are
getting scarcer in supply. In fact, warning voices are being heard
about the spread of a "scientific illiteracy" where many living in
technologically advanced societies lack the knowledge and the ability
for critical thinking in order to function in their daily
environment."

http://education.guardian.co.uk/scho...648111,00.html
"We are nearing the end of the "World Year of Physics", otherwise
known as Einstein Year, as it is the centenary of his annus mirabilis
in which he made three incredible breakthroughs, including special
relativity. In fact, it was 100 years ago yesterday that he published
the most famous equation in the history of physics: E=mc2. But instead
of celebrating, physicists are in mourning after a report showed a
dramatic decline in the number of pupils studying physics at school.
The number taking A-level physics has dropped by 38% over the past 15
years, a catastrophic meltdown that is set to continue over the next
few years. The report warns that a shortage of physics teachers and a
lack of interest from pupils could mean the end of physics in state
schools. Thereafter, physics would be restricted to only those
students who could afford to go to posh schools. Britain was the home
of Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday and Paul Dirac, and Brits made world-
class contributions to understanding gravity, quantum physics and
electromagnetism - and yet the British physicist is now facing
extinction. But so what? Physicists are not as cuddly as pandas, so
who cares if we disappear?"

Pentcho Valev

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Old September 16th 07, 06:35 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
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"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 12 Sept, 17:12, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Perhaps the Perimeter Institute (one of the subdivisions of the
Ministry of Silly Walks) wants to advance La Marche Futile - an
extremely silly walk developed by l'Academie des Sciences, and the
great thinker Alain Aspect will be the main protagonist. La Marche
Futile is mentioned at the end of the following presentation of the
Ministry of Silly Walks:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhlQfXUk7w

Another subdivision of the Ministry of Silly Walks - the Royal Society
- has undergone an interesting development:

Twelve years ago (silly walkers still know no limits):

http://www.totse.com/en/technology/s.../ftltravl.html
: "ASTRONOMERS PREDICT FASTER THAN LIGHT SPACE TRAVEL. It is boldly
going where no reputable scientific body has gone before.
Contradicting Einstein, the normally conservative Royal Astronomical
Society is about to publish a report predicting that mankind will be
able to travel faster than the speed of light. The breakthrough means
that Star Trek fantasies of interstellar civilisations and voyages
powered by warp drive are now no longer the exclusive domain of
science fiction writers...Crawford argues that modern physics may
allow two possible ways around Einstein's theory....The theories will
boost growing interest among scientists in the possibility of
travelling faster than light. The IPS, whose members include several
NASA engineers, starts its first conference shortly in Halifax, Nova
Scotia."

Six years ago (concern is growing in the Ministry of Silly Walks):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/519406/posts : "A GROUP of
astronomers and cosmologists has warned that the laws thought to
govern the universe, including Albert Einstein's theory of relativity,
must be rewritten. The group, which includes Professor Stephen Hawking
and Sir Martin Rees, the astronomer royal, say such laws may only work
for our universe but not in others that are now also thought to
exist.....AMONG THE IDEAS FACING REVISION IS EINSTEIN'S BELIEF THAT
THE SPEED OF LIGHT MUST ALWAYS BE THE SAME - 186,000 miles a second in
a vacuum.....Rees, Hawking and others are so concerned at the impact
of such ideas that they recently organised a private conference in
Cambridge for more than 30 leading cosmologists."

Now the Ministry of Silly Walks is silent. Silly walkers feel that
something awful has happened:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/ingdahl2.html
"But there has been a marked global decrease of students willing to
study physics, and funding has decreased accordingly. Not only that,
the best students are not heading for studies in physics, finding
other fields more appealing, and science teachers to schools are
getting scarcer in supply. In fact, warning voices are being heard
about the spread of a "scientific illiteracy" where many living in
technologically advanced societies lack the knowledge and the ability
for critical thinking in order to function in their daily
environment."

http://education.guardian.co.uk/scho...648111,00.html
"We are nearing the end of the "World Year of Physics", otherwise
known as Einstein Year, as it is the centenary of his annus mirabilis
in which he made three incredible breakthroughs, including special
relativity. In fact, it was 100 years ago yesterday that he published
the most famous equation in the history of physics: E=mc2. But instead
of celebrating, physicists are in mourning after a report showed a
dramatic decline in the number of pupils studying physics at school.
The number taking A-level physics has dropped by 38% over the past 15
years, a catastrophic meltdown that is set to continue over the next
few years. The report warns that a shortage of physics teachers and a
lack of interest from pupils could mean the end of physics in state
schools. Thereafter, physics would be restricted to only those
students who could afford to go to posh schools. Britain was the home
of Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday and Paul Dirac, and Brits made world-
class contributions to understanding gravity, quantum physics and
electromagnetism - and yet the British physicist is now facing
extinction. But so what? Physicists are not as cuddly as pandas, so
who cares if we disappear?"

Pentcho Valev


You are still an idiot. You deal horizontally broad and levels deep in
multiple coordinate systems!, fool. The universal result regarding light
will always be the constant of c, the speed of light in [vacuo]!, stupid.

As an infinity of crossing beams of light, an infinity of crossing
[histories] will always be there at any and all points omni-directionally in
space PREVIOUS (-) to any and all space travelers. Space travelers will
always be spatial submarines traveling (+) in an external ocean of time (-).
Light itself will always travel, expand, out from specific EVENTS, always
acquiring more general EVENTUALITY, rear end of time forward in space, front
end of time backward in space. Just where in hell -- in what direction of
time -- do you think the space traveler is going to go?!

And last but not least, no space navigator in his right mind is ever going
to point his vessel into the light point of his destination. He would know
his destination (0) wasn't there (-). He would point his vessel into the
vacuum in-line plus (+) to his destination (0) and make the point of light
(-) speed up in time toward a rendevous point with him. Or better yet, he
get there to the rendevous first by as small a margin as possible. A dynamic
light ocean of ever changing -- advancing ahead (+) and receding behind
(-) -- external coordinate histories (-) would always observably tell him he
was never surpassing the speed of light himself. Never getting any closer to
the speed of light than before he began his voyage. That is the physic, and
the benefit to him, of the ocean of light time histories (-) always being
there -- always being there PREVIOUS to him -- for him. Why don't you pull
out a dictionary and look up the meaning of "previous"! (The speed of light
in vacuo, c, will always be "infinitely faster than any velocity." -- Albert
Einstein. I don't think you'll ever catch on as to why it is, and always
will be, that way.)

GLB


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Old September 25th 07, 06:50 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
Pentcho Valev
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Default PERIMETER INSTITUTE MAY ALSO REFUTE EINSTEIN

On 16 Sep, 18:50, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On 12 Sept, 17:12, Pentcho Valev wrote:

Perhaps the Perimeter Institute (one of the subdivisions of the
Ministry of Silly Walks) wants to advance La Marche Futile - an
extremely silly walk developed by l'Academie des Sciences, and the
great thinker Alain Aspect will be the main protagonist. La Marche
Futile is mentioned at the end of the following presentation of the
Ministry of Silly Walks:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhlQfXUk7w

Another subdivision of the Ministry of Silly Walks - the Royal Society
- has undergone an interesting development:

Twelve years ago (silly walkers still know no limits):

http://www.totse.com/en/technology/s.../ftltravl.html
: "ASTRONOMERS PREDICT FASTER THAN LIGHT SPACE TRAVEL. It is boldly
going where no reputable scientific body has gone before.
Contradicting Einstein, the normally conservative Royal Astronomical
Society is about to publish a report predicting that mankind will be
able to travel faster than the speed of light. The breakthrough means
that Star Trek fantasies of interstellar civilisations and voyages
powered by warp drive are now no longer the exclusive domain of
science fiction writers...Crawford argues that modern physics may
allow two possible ways around Einstein's theory....The theories will
boost growing interest among scientists in the possibility of
travelling faster than light. The IPS, whose members include several
NASA engineers, starts its first conference shortly in Halifax, Nova
Scotia."

Six years ago (concern is growing in the Ministry of Silly Walks):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/519406/posts: "A GROUP of
astronomers and cosmologists has warned that the laws thought to
govern the universe, including Albert Einstein's theory of relativity,
must be rewritten. The group, which includes Professor Stephen Hawking
and Sir Martin Rees, the astronomer royal, say such laws may only work
for our universe but not in others that are now also thought to
exist.....AMONG THE IDEAS FACING REVISION IS EINSTEIN'S BELIEF THAT
THE SPEED OF LIGHT MUST ALWAYS BE THE SAME - 186,000 miles a second in
a vacuum.....Rees, Hawking and others are so concerned at the impact
of such ideas that they recently organised a private conference in
Cambridge for more than 30 leading cosmologists."

Now the Ministry of Silly Walks is silent. Silly walkers feel that
something awful has happened:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/ingdahl2.html
"But there has been a marked global decrease of students willing to
study physics, and funding has decreased accordingly. Not only that,
the best students are not heading for studies in physics, finding
other fields more appealing, and science teachers to schools are
getting scarcer in supply. In fact, warning voices are being heard
about the spread of a "scientific illiteracy" where many living in
technologically advanced societies lack the knowledge and the ability
for critical thinking in order to function in their daily
environment."

http://education.guardian.co.uk/scho...648111,00.html
"We are nearing the end of the "World Year of Physics", otherwise
known as Einstein Year, as it is the centenary of his annus mirabilis
in which he made three incredible breakthroughs, including special
relativity. In fact, it was 100 years ago yesterday that he published
the most famous equation in the history of physics: E=mc2. But instead
of celebrating, physicists are in mourning after a report showed a
dramatic decline in the number of pupils studying physics at school.
The number taking A-level physics has dropped by 38% over the past 15
years, a catastrophic meltdown that is set to continue over the next
few years. The report warns that a shortage of physics teachers and a
lack of interest from pupils could mean the end of physics in state
schools. Thereafter, physics would be restricted to only those
students who could afford to go to posh schools. Britain was the home
of Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday and Paul Dirac, and Brits made world-
class contributions to understanding gravity, quantum physics and
electromagnetism - and yet the British physicist is now facing
extinction. But so what? Physicists are not as cuddly as pandas, so
who cares if we disappear?"


Something is going on in the Perimeter Institute - some crazy
desperate panic or even worse:

http://maisonneuve.org/index.php?&pa...rticle_id=2934
CRISES + PARADOX = REVOLUTION. WELCOME TO THE PERIMETER INSTITUTE
WHERE TODAY'S EINSTEINS ARE HARD AT WORK.

So today's Einsteins are hard at work, but what will today's Einsteins
discover in the end? Today's Einsteins have already hinted at
tomorrow's new breathtaking discovery:

http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/smol...n03_print.html
Lee Smolin: "Now, here is the really interesting part: Some of the
effects predicted by the theory appear to be in conflict with one of
the principles of Einstein's special theory of relativity, the theory
that says that the speed of light is a universal constant. It's the
same for all photons, and it is independent of the motion of the
sender or observer. How is this possible, if that theory is itself
based on the principles of relativity? The principle of the constancy
of the speed of light is part of special relativity, but we quantized
Einstein's general theory of relativity. Because Einstein's special
theory is only a kind of approximation to his general theory, we can
implement the principles of the latter but find modifications to the
former. And this is what seems to be happening! So Gambini, Pullin,
and others calculated how light travels in a quantum geometry and
found that the theory predicts that the speed of light has a small
dependence on energy. Photons of higher energy travel slightly slower
than low-energy photons....A very exciting question we are now
wrestling with is, How drastically shall we be forced to modify
Einstein's special theory of relativity if the predicted effect is
observed?"

Pentcho Valev

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Old September 25th 07, 08:26 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
Pentcho Valev
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Default PERIMETER INSTITUTE MAY ALSO REFUTE EINSTEIN

On 25 Sep, 08:50, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Something is going on in the Perimeter Institute - some crazy
desperate panic or even worse:

http://maisonneuve.org/index.php?&pa...rticle_id=2934
CRISES + PARADOX = REVOLUTION. WELCOME TO THE PERIMETER INSTITUTE
WHERE TODAY'S EINSTEINS ARE HARD AT WORK.

So today's Einsteins are hard at work, but what will today's Einsteins
discover in the end? Today's Einsteins have already hinted at
tomorrow's new breathtaking discovery:

http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/smol...n03_print.html
Lee Smolin: "Now, here is the really interesting part: Some of the
effects predicted by the theory appear to be in conflict with one of
the principles of Einstein's special theory of relativity, the theory
that says that the speed of light is a universal constant. It's the
same for all photons, and it is independent of the motion of the
sender or observer. How is this possible, if that theory is itself
based on the principles of relativity? The principle of the constancy
of the speed of light is part of special relativity, but we quantized
Einstein's general theory of relativity. Because Einstein's special
theory is only a kind of approximation to his general theory, we can
implement the principles of the latter but find modifications to the
former. And this is what seems to be happening! So Gambini, Pullin,
and others calculated how light travels in a quantum geometry and
found that the theory predicts that the speed of light has a small
dependence on energy. Photons of higher energy travel slightly slower
than low-energy photons....A very exciting question we are now
wrestling with is, How drastically shall we be forced to modify
Einstein's special theory of relativity if the predicted effect is
observed?"


Six years ago the Royal Society felt the same crazy desperate panic.
They also hinted at new breathtaking discoveries:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/519406/posts
"A GROUP of astronomers and cosmologists has warned that the laws
thought to govern the universe, including Albert Einstein's theory of
relativity, must be rewritten. The group, which includes Professor
Stephen Hawking and Sir Martin Rees, the astronomer royal, say such
laws may only work for our universe but not in others that are now
also thought to exist. "It is becoming increasingly likely that the
rules we had thought were fundamental through time and space are
actually just bylaws for our bit of it," said Rees, whose new book,
Our Cosmic Habitat, is published next month. "Creation is emerging as
even stranger than we thought." Among the ideas facing revision is
Einstein's belief that the speed of light must always be the same -
186,000 miles a second in a vacuum....Another puzzle is the so-called
"smoothness" of our universe, by which astronomers mean the
distribution of matter and radiation."

Then the Royal Society suddenly realized where the introduction of non-
constancy of the speed of light, of non-smoothness of radiation etc.
would lead to:

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf...09145525ca.pdf
Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot
be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures.
Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the
theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary
physics."

Pentcho Valev

 




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