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proposed name for Saturnian moon S/2005 S1
In case they run out of more and more obscure Greek or Roman mythological figures, and if any JPL folks are lurking here -- may I suggest, as a name for the newly-discovered moon in Saturn, "Cowabunga". I figured this was only appropriate as it's the "wavemaking moon". Hey, c'mon; there's a rock on Mars called "Yogi" now, y'know. -- "All over, people changing their votes, along with their overcoats; if Adolf Hitler flew in today, they'd send a limousine anyway!" --the clash. __________________________________________________ _________________ Mike Flugennock, flugennock at sinkers dot org Mike Flugennock's Mikey'zine, dubya dubya dubya dot sinkers dot org |
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OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote:
On Sun, 22 May 2005 21:51:45 -0400, (Mike Flugennock) wrote: In case they run out of more and more obscure Greek or Roman mythological figures, and if any JPL folks are lurking here -- may I suggest, as a name for the newly-discovered moon in Saturn, "Cowabunga". I figured this was only appropriate as it's the "wavemaking moon". ...It works for me, and probably everyone else with a clue. However, astronomical bodies are currently named by a bunch of transvestite and transsexual Frogs who, to this day, refuse to acknowledge "Mount Marilyn" or any of the other names deservedly assigned to locations on the Moon by those who discovered and/or visited there. As soon as the IAU is disbanded and its members executed, the sooner we'll see more fun and apropos names applied to stellar bodies. Err, as in IAU member with neither French nor amphibian ancestry within the recorded annals, we do other things, you know. The whole relativistic reference-frame thing, expressions of concern about orbiting mausolea as sources of light pollution, promotion of astronomy in developing countries, negotiations with some standing to try heading off interference from satellites (didja known that Iridium satellites are supposed to limit transmissions within line of sight of Arecibo?). Come on - they did let Harrison, Starr, Lennon, and McCartney in for asteroids, along with Spock (named after a cat, making a statement and thereafter resulting in a tightening of the rules), Zappafrank, James Bond, and a couple of folks who drop in on s.s.h. The organization has not always been chemically lacking on humor. When Soviet representatives proposed names for farside features including Mare Mosciovense, there was some debate about this breaking the pattern set by names of nearside maria. As a result, and by vote of the IAU, Moscow is a state of mind. The IAU is also a bit more freewheeling than most other global scientific unions, being the only one I know of fo rwhich memebership is held by individuals rather than by national organizations, whcih did manage to hold down the level of stupidity during the Cold War. Bill Keel |
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Cowabunga is OK!!!
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In message , William C. Keel
writes OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote: On Sun, 22 May 2005 21:51:45 -0400, (Mike Flugennock) wrote: In case they run out of more and more obscure Greek or Roman mythological figures, and if any JPL folks are lurking here -- may I suggest, as a name for the newly-discovered moon in Saturn, "Cowabunga". I figured this was only appropriate as it's the "wavemaking moon". ...It works for me, and probably everyone else with a clue. However, astronomical bodies are currently named by a bunch of transvestite and transsexual Frogs who, to this day, refuse to acknowledge "Mount Marilyn" or any of the other names deservedly assigned to locations on the Moon by those who discovered and/or visited there. As soon as the IAU is disbanded and its members executed, the sooner we'll see more fun and apropos names applied to stellar bodies. Err, as in IAU member with neither French nor amphibian ancestry within the recorded annals, we do other things, you know. Come on - they did let Harrison, Starr, Lennon, and McCartney in for asteroids, along with Spock (named after a cat, making a statement and thereafter resulting in a tightening of the rules) Does that mean an asteroid can't be named for Laika? If so, I hope they make another exception, calling her a dead astronaut or something. Things could be a lot worse - as Arthur Clarke writes somewhere, we could have had everything named by a US general who likes baseball or a Soviet bureaucrat sticking pins in the Moscow telephone directory. BTW, according to a post on alt.astronomy citing this page http://www.bama.ua.edu/~bolan003/, a moon of Ganymede has been found and named Rooster. Am I right in thinking this is complete nonsense? -- Remove spam and invalid from address to reply. |
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OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote: ...It works for me, and probably everyone else with a clue. However, astronomical bodies are currently named by a bunch of transvestite and transsexual Frogs... Now, OM, take your medication like a good boy. :-) As I've noted before, the nationality most heavily represented on the IAU naming committees is actually the US, with only minor French participation. ...who, to this day, refuse to acknowledge "Mount Marilyn" or any of the other names deservedly assigned to locations on the Moon by those who discovered and/or visited there... If memory serves, actually, a lot of the informal Apollo names -- not all of them, but quite a few -- *have* been blessed by the IAU. -- "Think outside the box -- the box isn't our friend." | Henry Spencer -- George Herbert | |
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Jonathan Silverlight wrote:
In message , William C. Keel writes OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote: On Sun, 22 May 2005 21:51:45 -0400, (Mike Flugennock) wrote: Does that mean an asteroid can't be named for Laika? If so, I hope they make another exception, calling her a dead astronaut or something. I suppose someone could petition for an exception on historical grounds or something. BTW, the current alphabetical name list is in http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/lists/MPNames.html Things could be a lot worse - as Arthur Clarke writes somewhere, we could have had everything named by a US general who likes baseball or a Soviet bureaucrat sticking pins in the Moscow telephone directory. This is almost what heppened in the first round of lunar crater names - lots of those folks were patrons or supporters of the mapper's personal position. BTW, according to a post on alt.astronomy citing this page http://www.bama.ua.edu/~bolan003/, a moon of Ganymede has been found and named Rooster. Am I right in thinking this is complete nonsense? How odd - that appears to be a student web site on our own campus, with a passing reference (along with the gender preferences of the mythological Ganymede) to this Rooster business. Looks made up to me - I don't think Ganymede-the-moon has any phase space in which a satellite would be stable over interestingly long times, and googling doesn't turn up anything else. Bill Keel |
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Jonathan Silverlight wrote: In message , William C. Keel writes OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote: On Sun, 22 May 2005 21:51:45 -0400, (Mike Flugennock) wrote: In case they run out of more and more obscure Greek or Roman mythological figures, and if any JPL folks are lurking here -- may I suggest, as a name for the newly-discovered moon in Saturn, "Cowabunga". I figured this was only appropriate as it's the "wavemaking moon". ...It works for me, and probably everyone else with a clue. However, astronomical bodies are currently named by a bunch of transvestite and transsexual Frogs who, to this day, refuse to acknowledge "Mount Marilyn" or any of the other names deservedly assigned to locations on the Moon by those who discovered and/or visited there. As soon as the IAU is disbanded and its members executed, the sooner we'll see more fun and apropos names applied to stellar bodies. Err, as in IAU member with neither French nor amphibian ancestry within the recorded annals, we do other things, you know. Come on - they did let Harrison, Starr, Lennon, and McCartney in for asteroids, along with Spock (named after a cat, making a statement and thereafter resulting in a tightening of the rules) Biological taxonomy probably serves as the bad example for something to avoid. Decades aga, one fellow submitted a lot of proposed generic names for beetles he described. The names got approved until an English speaker noticed Peggikishme, Suziekishme, Marikishme and a slew of others. They cracked down on the frivolity after that. The other extreme is probably the Spanish, who almost everywhere they went named everything from towns, to mountains, to lakes, to ships, to plants after only about a dozen saints and the Virgin Mary. Very boring. s that mean an asteroid can't be named for Laika? If so, I hope they make another exception, calling her a dead astronaut or something. If an asteroid hasn't been named for Laika, it just means no one's proposed it yet. Things could be a lot worse - as Arthur Clarke writes somewhere, we could have had everything named by a US general who likes baseball or a Soviet bureaucrat sticking pins in the Moscow telephone directory. BTW, according to a post on alt.astronomy citing this page http://www.bama.ua.edu/~bolan003/, a moon of Ganymede has been found and named Rooster. Am I right in thinking this is complete nonsense? -- Hint: if the first moon of a moon had been discovered, would you expect the home site of a gay boy's band to be the best source for information?? Especially when they don't cite a source? |
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On Mon, 23 May 2005 18:58:50 GMT, (Henry Spencer)
wrote: If memory serves, actually, a lot of the informal Apollo names -- not all of them, but quite a few -- *have* been blessed by the IAU. ....But from what I've been able to gather, Mount Marilyn has *not*, and the craters named for the A1 crew are still on the far side, right? OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr |
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In article ,
OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote: If memory serves, actually, a lot of the informal Apollo names -- not all of them, but quite a few -- *have* been blessed by the IAU. ...But from what I've been able to gather, Mount Marilyn has *not*, and the craters named for the A1 crew are still on the far side, right? Mount Marilyn I'm not sure about. But last I heard, you're correct that craters Grissom, White, and Chaffee have not moved. :-) Trouble is, the nearside has been mapped for so long that even quite small craters had pre-spaceflight names. The only way to name *noticeable* craters -- ones that would be marked in typical maps -- after the Apollo 1 crew was to go to the farside. Don't complain too much. They also have *stars* named after them -- by an underhanded route -- and that's a rare distinction indeed. (Three of the stars in the Apollo navigation-star list did not have names, at least not that the astronomer helping with Apollo navigation work knew, and so the crew talked him into giving them some... Navi after Virgil *Ivan* Grisson, Dnoces after Edward H. White *II*, Regor after *Roger* Chaffee. And those names have since shown up in other star catalogs. Turns out that Navi and Dnoces already had relatively-obscure names, but still...) -- "Think outside the box -- the box isn't our friend." | Henry Spencer -- George Herbert | |
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