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I have been looking for months for information on where first stages of rockets (mostly US but I am also interested in Russian and Chinese) impacted (nominally). I found a table of Saturn first stage impact points and have read some about Russian impacts downrange near Karaganda, Kazakhstan. Also found a description, with detailed Lat and Long, of the Apollo 11 launch that left debris on the deck of a German ship. So this is not about launch failures, but nominal launches. Anybody that could point me to a source? I have looked in most of the usual suspects. Spacefacts, NASA sites, etc. TIA |
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I remember a news story from many years ago about some event observed
after a Vandenberg Launch that was described as possibly being the impact of an Atlas booster. The uncertainty that it actually was the booster makes me think that given the non-arodynamic shape and unknown angular motion after separation - exact landing points may not have been known - just a large zone to keep clear of. They weren't recoverable/reuseable - did anyone care enough to look? Val Kraut |
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Also found a description, with detailed Lat and Long, of the Apollo 11 launch that left debris on the deck of a German ship. i bet those apollo 11 debris would be worth big bucks today. as being the only remaining part of the flight flown apollo 11 not in a museum |
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, bob haller wrote: Also found a description, with detailed Lat and Long, of the Apollo 11 launch that left debris on the deck of a German ship. i bet those apollo 11 debris would be worth big bucks today. as being the only remaining part of the flight flown apollo 11 not in a museum The LM descent stage still rests on the lunar surface. |
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On Jul 4, 5:07*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote: Also found a description, with detailed Lat and Long, of the Apollo 11 launch that left debris on the deck of a German ship. i bet those apollo 11 debris would be worth big bucks today. as being the only remaining part of the flight flown apollo 11 not in a museum You lose. *'Booster bits' aren't particularly valuable. -- "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar *territory." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn theres a plan to recover apollo 11s saturn 5 booster engine bells, thats a lot of work and cost to get some parts from the first manned vehicle to land on the moon |
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i bet those apollo 11 debris would be worth big bucks today. as being the only remaining part of the flight flown apollo 11 not in a museum The LM descent stage still rests on the lunar surface. the apollo 11 LM upper stage crashed back into the moon, at a unknown location. but in both cases the parts cant be reached |
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"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
news bob haller wrote: On Jul 4, 5:07 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: bob haller wrote: Also found a description, with detailed Lat and Long, of the Apollo 11 launch that left debris on the deck of a German ship. i bet those apollo 11 debris would be worth big bucks today. as being the only remaining part of the flight flown apollo 11 not in a museum You lose. 'Booster bits' aren't particularly valuable. theres a plan to recover apollo 11s saturn 5 booster engine bells, thats a lot of work and cost to get some parts from the first manned vehicle to land on the moon Cite? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03...ollo11_rocket/ -- Gordon Davie Edinburgh, Scotland "Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God." |
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On Jul 5, 11:28*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
"GordonD" wrote: "Fred J. McCall" wrote in message news bob haller wrote: On Jul 4, 5:07 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: bob haller wrote: Also found a description, with detailed Lat and Long, of the Apollo 11 launch that left debris on the deck of a German ship. i bet those apollo 11 debris would be worth big bucks today. as being the only remaining part of the flight flown apollo 11 not in a museum You lose. 'Booster bits' aren't particularly valuable. theres a plan to recover apollo 11s saturn 5 booster engine bells, thats a lot of work and cost to get some parts from the first manned vehicle to land on the moon Cite? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03...ollo11_rocket/ Oh, BEZOS wants them. *That doesn't make them "particularly valuable". And there's no plan as yet. *There's a NOTION. -- "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar *territory." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn do note that gus grissoms capsule was recovered and restored. its a museum display today.... |
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On Jul 6, 3:48*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote: On Jul 5, 11:28*am, Fred J. McCall wrote: "GordonD" wrote: "Fred J. McCall" wrote in message news bob haller wrote: On Jul 4, 5:07 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: bob haller wrote: Also found a description, with detailed Lat and Long, of the Apollo 11 launch that left debris on the deck of a German ship. i bet those apollo 11 debris would be worth big bucks today. as being the only remaining part of the flight flown apollo 11 not in a museum You lose. 'Booster bits' aren't particularly valuable. theres a plan to recover apollo 11s saturn 5 booster engine bells, thats a lot of work and cost to get some parts from the first manned vehicle to land on the moon Cite? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03...ollo11_rocket/ Oh, BEZOS wants them. *That doesn't make them "particularly valuable". And there's no plan as yet. *There's a NOTION. do note that gus grissoms capsule was recovered and restored. its a museum display today.... Do note that gus grissoms capsule is not a bit of booster that's broken off.... -- "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar *territory." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn do note that gus grissoms capsule was worth recovering even though it wasnt part of the first manned moon landing ever.... sad they didnt get the capsules door..... at the time of challeger the recovery of its crew compartment was slowed by the large quantityof space debris littering the area.... |
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In sci.space.history message orfairbairn-D4DCA8.20122504072012@70-3-168
-216.pools.spcsdns.net, Wed, 4 Jul 2012 20:12:25, Orval Fairbairn posted: In article , bob haller wrote: Also found a description, with detailed Lat and Long, of the Apollo 11 launch that left debris on the deck of a German ship. i bet those apollo 11 debris would be worth big bucks today. as being the only remaining part of the flight flown apollo 11 not in a museum The LM descent stage still rests on the lunar surface. Likewise, it seems, the ascent stage debris. -- (c) John Stockton, nr London, UK. Turnpike v6.05. Website http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/ - w. FAQish topics, links, acronyms PAS EXE etc. : http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/ - see in 00index.htm Dates - miscdate.htm estrdate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc. |
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