Aether has mass

On Nov 14, 4:56*pm, HVAC wrote:
On 11/14/2012 4:52 PM, mpc755 wrote:



100% wrong. Ether exists exactly as much as god exists.

Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?

Ether = God.
God does not exist = Ether does not exist.

I'm just smarter and better than you, MP3.


A while back you asked what does ether get you.

It gets you the correct understanding of what occurs physically in
nature to cause gravity and the observed behaviors in a double slit
experiment.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether through both.

Why did you ask the question if you were just going to remain ignorant
of understanding the answer?

On Nov 14, 5:10*pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 14, 4:56*pm, HVAC wrote:

On 11/14/2012 4:52 PM, mpc755 wrote:

100% wrong. Ether exists exactly as much as god exists.

Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?

Ether = God.
God does not exist = Ether does not exist.

I'm just smarter and better than you, MP3.

A while back you asked what does ether get you.

It gets you the correct understanding of what occurs physically in
nature to cause gravity and the observed behaviors in a double slit
experiment.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether through both.

Why did you ask the question if you were just going to remain ignorant
of understanding the answer?

If light is a disturbance in the so-called "ether," why
does its velocity remain constant regardless of that
of the observer?

On Nov 14, 5:13*pm, Father Haskell wrote:
On Nov 14, 5:10*pm, mpc755 wrote:









On Nov 14, 4:56*pm, HVAC wrote:

On 11/14/2012 4:52 PM, mpc755 wrote:

100% wrong. Ether exists exactly as much as god exists.

Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?

Ether = God.
God does not exist = Ether does not exist.

I'm just smarter and better than you, MP3.

A while back you asked what does ether get you.

It gets you the correct understanding of what occurs physically in
nature to cause gravity and the observed behaviors in a double slit
experiment.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether through both.

Why did you ask the question if you were just going to remain ignorant
of understanding the answer?

If light is a disturbance in the so-called "ether," why
does its velocity remain constant regardless of that
of the observer?

Everything is with respect to the state of the aether in which it
exists, including the rate at which atomic clocks tick. That is why
the speed of light is always measured to be 'c'.

You have an atomic clock at sea level. You take it to the top of a
mountain. The atomic clock ticks at a different rate because the state
of the aether in which it exists has changed.

On Nov 14, 5:17*pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 14, 5:13*pm, Father Haskell wrote:









On Nov 14, 5:10*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 14, 4:56*pm, HVAC wrote:

On 11/14/2012 4:52 PM, mpc755 wrote:

100% wrong. Ether exists exactly as much as god exists.

Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?

Ether = God.
God does not exist = Ether does not exist.

I'm just smarter and better than you, MP3.

A while back you asked what does ether get you.

It gets you the correct understanding of what occurs physically in
nature to cause gravity and the observed behaviors in a double slit
experiment.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether through both.

Why did you ask the question if you were just going to remain ignorant
of understanding the answer?

If light is a disturbance in the so-called "ether," why
does its velocity remain constant regardless of that
of the observer?

Everything is with respect to the state of the aether in which it
exists, including the rate at which atomic clocks tick. That is why
the speed of light is always measured to be 'c'.

You have an atomic clock at sea level. You take it to the top of a
mountain. The atomic clock ticks at a different rate because the state
of the aether in which it exists has changed.

Because of gravity.

On Nov 14, 5:21*pm, Father Haskell wrote:
On Nov 14, 5:17*pm, mpc755 wrote:









On Nov 14, 5:13*pm, Father Haskell wrote:

On Nov 14, 5:10*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 14, 4:56*pm, HVAC wrote:

On 11/14/2012 4:52 PM, mpc755 wrote:

100% wrong. Ether exists exactly as much as god exists.

Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?

Ether = God.
God does not exist = Ether does not exist.

I'm just smarter and better than you, MP3.

A while back you asked what does ether get you.

It gets you the correct understanding of what occurs physically in
nature to cause gravity and the observed behaviors in a double slit
experiment.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether through both.

Why did you ask the question if you were just going to remain ignorant
of understanding the answer?

If light is a disturbance in the so-called "ether," why
does its velocity remain constant regardless of that
of the observer?

Everything is with respect to the state of the aether in which it
exists, including the rate at which atomic clocks tick. That is why
the speed of light is always measured to be 'c'.

You have an atomic clock at sea level. You take it to the top of a
mountain. The atomic clock ticks at a different rate because the state
of the aether in which it exists has changed.

Because of gravity.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter IS gravity.

On Nov 14, 5:22*pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 14, 5:21*pm, Father Haskell wrote:









On Nov 14, 5:17*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 14, 5:13*pm, Father Haskell wrote:

On Nov 14, 5:10*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 14, 4:56*pm, HVAC wrote:

On 11/14/2012 4:52 PM, mpc755 wrote:

100% wrong. Ether exists exactly as much as god exists.

Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?

Ether = God.
God does not exist = Ether does not exist.

I'm just smarter and better than you, MP3.

A while back you asked what does ether get you.

It gets you the correct understanding of what occurs physically in
nature to cause gravity and the observed behaviors in a double slit
experiment.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether through both.

Why did you ask the question if you were just going to remain ignorant
of understanding the answer?

If light is a disturbance in the so-called "ether," why
does its velocity remain constant regardless of that
of the observer?

Everything is with respect to the state of the aether in which it
exists, including the rate at which atomic clocks tick. That is why
the speed of light is always measured to be 'c'.

You have an atomic clock at sea level. You take it to the top of a
mountain. The atomic clock ticks at a different rate because the state
of the aether in which it exists has changed.

Because of gravity.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter IS gravity.

Which would mean its force impinges equally from all
directions, thus cancelling itself out.

On Nov 14, 5:25*pm, Father Haskell wrote:
On Nov 14, 5:22*pm, mpc755 wrote:









On Nov 14, 5:21*pm, Father Haskell wrote:

On Nov 14, 5:17*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 14, 5:13*pm, Father Haskell wrote:

On Nov 14, 5:10*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 14, 4:56*pm, HVAC wrote:

On 11/14/2012 4:52 PM, mpc755 wrote:

100% wrong. Ether exists exactly as much as god exists.

Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?

Ether = God.
God does not exist = Ether does not exist.

I'm just smarter and better than you, MP3.

A while back you asked what does ether get you.

It gets you the correct understanding of what occurs physically in
nature to cause gravity and the observed behaviors in a double slit
experiment.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether through both.

Why did you ask the question if you were just going to remain ignorant
of understanding the answer?

If light is a disturbance in the so-called "ether," why
does its velocity remain constant regardless of that
of the observer?

Everything is with respect to the state of the aether in which it
exists, including the rate at which atomic clocks tick. That is why
the speed of light is always measured to be 'c'.

You have an atomic clock at sea level. You take it to the top of a
mountain. The atomic clock ticks at a different rate because the state
of the aether in which it exists has changed.

Because of gravity.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter IS gravity.

Which would mean its force impinges equally from all
directions, thus cancelling itself out.

The aether displaced by the Earth is pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the Earth. It doesn't cancel itself out because it is
pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the particles of
matter the Earth consists of.

On Nov 14, 5:17*pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 14, 5:13*pm, Father Haskell wrote:









On Nov 14, 5:10*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 14, 4:56*pm, HVAC wrote:

On 11/14/2012 4:52 PM, mpc755 wrote:

100% wrong. Ether exists exactly as much as god exists.

Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?

Ether = God.
God does not exist = Ether does not exist.

I'm just smarter and better than you, MP3.

A while back you asked what does ether get you.

It gets you the correct understanding of what occurs physically in
nature to cause gravity and the observed behaviors in a double slit
experiment.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether through both.

Why did you ask the question if you were just going to remain ignorant
of understanding the answer?

If light is a disturbance in the so-called "ether," why
does its velocity remain constant regardless of that
of the observer?

Everything is with respect to the state of the aether in which it
exists, including the rate at which atomic clocks tick. That is why
the speed of light is always measured to be 'c'.

You have an atomic clock at sea level. You take it to the top of a
mountain. The atomic clock ticks at a different rate because the state
of the aether in which it exists has changed.

How has the aether changed with height ? TeBet

On Nov 14, 5:28*pm, "G=EMC^2" wrote:
On Nov 14, 5:17*pm, mpc755 wrote:









On Nov 14, 5:13*pm, Father Haskell wrote:

On Nov 14, 5:10*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 14, 4:56*pm, HVAC wrote:

On 11/14/2012 4:52 PM, mpc755 wrote:

100% wrong. Ether exists exactly as much as god exists.

Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?

Ether = God.
God does not exist = Ether does not exist.

I'm just smarter and better than you, MP3.

A while back you asked what does ether get you.

It gets you the correct understanding of what occurs physically in
nature to cause gravity and the observed behaviors in a double slit
experiment.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether through both.

Why did you ask the question if you were just going to remain ignorant
of understanding the answer?

If light is a disturbance in the so-called "ether," why
does its velocity remain constant regardless of that
of the observer?

Everything is with respect to the state of the aether in which it
exists, including the rate at which atomic clocks tick. That is why
the speed of light is always measured to be 'c'.

You have an atomic clock at sea level. You take it to the top of a
mountain. The atomic clock ticks at a different rate because the state
of the aether in which it exists has changed.

How has the aether changed with height ? *TeBet

What changes is its state of displacement. The further from the Earth
you get the less the aether is displaced by the Earth.

On Nov 14, 11:11*am, Painius wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:21:10 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:









On Nov 12, 4:35 pm, Painius wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 04:11:06 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 12, 2:55 am, Painius wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:13:58 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 11, 6:13 pm, Painius wrote:

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

Yet, the aether cannot do that on its own. It must have help. There
must be a pressure exerted on the aether. What, in your opinion,
might be the source of that pressure?

Aether exists everywhere particles of matter do not.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

What, again in your opinion, causes the disappearance of the
interference pattern when a sensor is placed near a slit?

'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory -
Louis de BROGLIE'
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf

When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics I was
looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles,
of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in
his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the
physical reality of waves and particles.

any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous
energetic contact with a hidden medium

The hidden medium of de Broglie wave mechanics is the aether. The
energetic contact is the state of displacement of the aether.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.

In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined path
which takes it through one slit. The associated wave in the aether
passes through both. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates
wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction
it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave
piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Detecting the particle
strongly exiting a single slit turns the associated aether wave into
chop. The aether waves exiting the slits interact with the detectors
and become many short waves with irregular motion. The waves are
disorganized. There is no wave interference. The particle pitches and
rolls through the chop. The particle gets knocked around by the chop
and it no longer creates an interference pattern.

Fascinating!

What is it about the detection of the particle that turns the
associated aether wave into "chop"? The detector does nothing but
"detect", correct? So how does a device that does nothing but detect
have any affect at all upon the aether wave that's associated with the
particle?

In a boat double slit experiment there are pilings at the exits to the
slits with sensors on them to detect the boat. As the boat exits the
slits the pilings turn the bow wave into chop.

The detection destroys the coherence of the associated wave in the
aether. The detection destroys the coherence between the particle and
its associated wave in the aether.

But where do those "pilings" come from? How does the detection
instrument generate those pilings? How does the detection destroy the
dual coherence you describe? All it happens to be is a detector, an
instrument that merely *receives* information. It's noted that the
detector must somehow do something to destroy the dual coherence, but
precisely how does an instrument that is only there to receive
information have any effect at all upon the particle or the wave?

The detector detects the particle by physically interacting with the
particle. The detector also physically interacts with the associated
wave in the aether. The detector turns the aether wave into chop.

It is amazing you can make up magical particles which magically flow
toward the Earth and magically transition from mass to energy and back
again but you can't understand how physically detecting the a particle
can turn the associated wave in the aether into chop.

lol! *It is you, Mike, who proffers effect without cause. *So it is
you who make up the magic of an aether that causes gravity merely by
being displaced by matter. *Without a pressure/force behind that
aether, then it operates on fairy wings.

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Happiness makes up in height for what it lacks in length."

Aether "fairy wings" could be the next great thing.

No doubt something other than a great deal of helium, rogue electrons
and 1e36 photons/cm3 probably exist wherever other molecular mass is
not all that significant(less than 1 atom/cm3)