Orbital solar power plants touted for energy needs

On Nov 18, 2:56*pm, Dr J R Stockton
wrote:
In sci.space.policy message , Thu, 17 Nov
2011 19:24:18, Doug Freyburger posted:

*Ground solar has an issue called night that means the
only way it can supply base load is to have transmission lines that
cross the oceans.

Not entirely exact. *Argentinian solar farms would be ideally placed to
supply Beijing's street lighting, and the lines would only need to cross
the Panama Canal and the Bering Straits, neither of which are oceans.

A Bering Tunnel is routinely in contemplation, and it should be easy
enough to tunnel under the Canal.

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The Atacama Desert is better situated. A solar powered version of the
World Landbridge is possible. The Taklamakan Desert supplies Europe.
The Sahara Desert supplies the Americas.

Buckminster Fuller proposed this sort of power sharing back in the
1950s. Pipelines transmit hydrogen gas more cheaply than wires can.
Superconducting wires have the potential to change that. The nice
thing about hydrogen pipelines is that by changing the pressure, the
amount of energy stored in them changes. So using hydrogen producing
panels in a Landbridge type arrangement with rail, gas, water, and so
forth - powered by large solar arrays - is possible.

Connecting all the major areas of the world by maglev and pipelines,
allows us to calculate, based on population distribution, the
distribution of solar panels attached to the system to minimize energy
storage.

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On Nov 23, 4:47*pm, William Mook wrote:
On Nov 21, 10:35*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Nov 19, 3:17*am, William Mook wrote:

On Nov 18, 11:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:

Doug Freyburger wrote:

Space based power can supplement base load. *Ground based solar can't.

Why not?

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"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
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It requires global interconnection and/or intermediate storage. *My
solar panels produce hydrogen and oxygen from water. *The hydrogen is
gathered and stored in depleted gas wells for up to 90 days. *The
hydrogen is withdrawn as needed and transmitted to stationary power
plants where it replaced carbon fuels. *Additional hydrogen is used to
convert carbon fuel to liquid transportation fuels. *Those fuels are
replaced with hydrogen as mobile systems are converted to hydrogen
use.

Stored solar energy can also be in the form of hot water, or simply in
products made and/or processed from the clean energy. *Peak energy via
industrial sized fuel cells that can reach 50% efficiency, plus their
waste heat recovery should put this method up close to to 60%.

Each and every community on Earth needs hot water for all sorts of
reasons.

Each and every community needs its utility electrical energy at
something less then 5 cents per kwhr. (especially needed with those
all-electric cars that'll need to consume an average of 50 kwhrs/day
because all electric car manufactures basically lie when they claim
such good performance with a new battery pack, usually no hills, no
great number of stop and goes, no HVAC or nighttime driving and they
do not mention the recharge conversion efficiency or the waste heat
from such).

Your terrestrial solar farms should have been established and at full
capacity as of nearly a decade ago, and thereby providing cheaper
energy for us, a cleaner environment plus exporting of energy related
products and those Mokenergy synfuels as a done deal.

Instead, the best system of advancing technology we got kinda sucks.
DoE must stand for the Department of Exclusion, or perhaps Department
of Extreme-Obfuscation.

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Its hard to light a bulb or run a computer with hot water.

It's not an all-or-nothing kind of thing. Obviously you could heat
all sorts of nifty stuff besides water, not that hot water isn't
extremely handy as is.

Mokenergy should make as much LH2 and LOx as you can possibly store
and deliver within reason, plus otherwise create other products
(including my HTP) that demand a great deal of processing energy plus
raw heat, and/or simply store the solar surplus energy within
thousands of enormous and well insulated water tanks for communities
to utilize on demand.

We already know how to make those commercial polypropylene tanks of
10,000 gallons capacity, and we certainly know how to insulate those
up to an extra R-256 if not better.

I'm certain our DoEO will not give a tinkers damn because, they seem
to be rather happy campers as is while screwing us out of every last
dime.

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