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Zubrin: Obama readies to blast NASA
Le 27/10/11 21:25, Hop a écrit :
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...to-blast-nasa/ Sure hope Zubrin is wrong. I do not think so. This administration has other priorities for the money from U.S. taxpayers: 1) Spending money in War and destruction 2) Spending money in War and destruction gear 3) Spending money for banks bailouts .... last: Research, education, culture, the arts. |
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Zubrin: Obama readies to blast NASA
Sure hope Zubrin is wrong. As a Senator, Obama wanted the NASA budget for inner city school unions. As a president he named an administrator that has done essentially nothing to promote space. His commission recomended new missons of no interest to anyone. There could have been recommendations to get Constellation back on a route to Mars program with the moon etc as development flights - not a whole sale invasion of the overall lunar surface. This is no surprise. Even letting the "doomed to early termination" Mars mission to fly, plays in to his overall scheme. This mission will be an embarressment to NASA. And where's the counter arguement - James Webb Telescope way over budget and schedule, a hard to maintain space station that has yielded nothing much of scientific value, plans for a new missionless heavy lift Pork Pie booster, ridiculous announcements of Arsenic based life ........... One of the strongest argyements for robot exploration was to prepare the way for mankind to follow. Manned space is almost dead - now it's his time to kill off the robots. Val Kraut |
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Zubrin: Obama readies to blast NASA
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:25:29 -0700 (PDT), Hop
wrote: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...to-blast-nasa/ Sure hope Zubrin is wrong. Well, kill off the Webb with its insatiable budget appetite, and that will pay for all the other cuts. No more Webbs and no more Curiosities. If you bust your budget by 50%, you're canceled (Webb and Curiosity are in 300-400% overrun territory). That's all the budget discipline we need. No more rewarding incompetence or rewarding deliberate lowballing of costs. Brian |
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Zubrin: Obama readies to blast NASA
On Oct 27, 3:54*pm, Brian Thorn wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:25:29 -0700 (PDT), Hop wrote: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...eadies-to-blas... Sure hope Zubrin is wrong. Well, kill off the Webb with its insatiable budget appetite, and that will pay for all the other cuts. No more Webbs and no more Curiosities. If you bust your budget by 50%, you're canceled (Webb and Curiosity are in 300-400% overrun territory). That's all the budget discipline we need. No more rewarding incompetence or rewarding deliberate lowballing of costs. Brian It seems cost overruns and delays are in the DNA of our NASA, DARPA and JPL. If there's a more spendy and time consuming way of doing it, that's probably the only way it's ever going to get done. How about we get Mokaerospace (aka William Mook) for capturing this one for us, before it eventually does harm than good? Gravity is the overall big-picture problem for us, because as is more people seem to die because of encountering or having to deal with gravity related issues than anything else (Pandora has the right amount of gravity, as in hardly any). Though locally there's not so much gravity to fear as there could be actual shards of paramagnetic basalt from our moon, plus whatever parts from the arriving asteroid that’ll be attracted by the combined gravity of Earth and our moon. Unfortunately, Earth will eventually get 2/3 of it (again due to gravity, just like all them dinosaurs had to pay the ultimate price due to gravity and that item or several which impacted Earth). This asteroid (2005 YU55) is arriving too damn fast to get captured as another moon or LEO item, but it’s certainly capable of demonstrating a method of capture should it have a glancing lithobraking encounter with our moon. Perhaps our crack FEMA and NOAA are simply getting themselves prepared for a seriously nasty big one (somewhat like our DoD and Pentagon were off playing war games based upon a large commercial aircraft smacking into tall buildings on the exact same day as such was actually happening). Does anyone here believe in Karma? This one is serious Warhol doom and gloom, and especially doom worthy if this bad-boy trajectory should drift by any micro-fraction of a degree and whack into our moon. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/comet...et20110502.gif http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...asteroid-flyby http://www.universetoday.com/85360/t...h-in-november/ Perhaps this November 9th asteroid (2005 YU55) as a 400 meter diameter worth of unknown mass (being that it’s so spherical could suggest a rather solid item of mostly nickel iron), passing through at 38 km/sec with its NEO distance of 324,600 km could conceivably manage to hit our moon at 13 km/sec. Too bad the regular JPL asteroid NEO simulator can’t muster up any specifics on how close it’ll get to our physically dark and naked moon. It looks as though it’ll miss the moon by roughly a little more than 0.5 LD as depicted in this following link. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/comet...et20110502.gif No doubt we’ll see a little fine tuning with their graphic simulation as it gets closer. A moon impact would not give us much time if some of the secondary shards are coming our way at 10+ km/sec, and of course there’s even a slight chance of a glancing blow whereas this item mostly survives its lithobraking encounter and subsequently becomes slowed down but otherwise more attracted to the Earth+moon gravity well. As far as anyone knows, this one has never gotten so close, so it’ll be interesting to see how much revising of its NEO simulation takes place, which should also tell us its mass. http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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Zubrin: Obama readies to blast NASA
On Oct 27, 12:25*pm, Hop wrote:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...eadies-to-blas... Sure hope Zubrin is wrong. Since our DARPA and NASA are kind of dysfunctional (preoccupied with spewing hype and desperate fund raising in order to keep their lights turned on), how about we get Mokaerospace (aka William Mook) for capturing this one for us, before it eventually does us more harm than good? Gravity is the overall big-picture problem for us, because as is more people seem to die because of encountering or having to deal with gravity related issues than anything else (Pandora has the right amount of gravity, as in hardly any). Though locally there's not so much gravity to fear as there could be actual shards of paramagnetic basalt from our moon, plus whatever parts from the arriving asteroid that’ll be attracted by the combined gravity of Earth and our moon (once again proving that gravity is lethal). Unfortunately, Earth will eventually get 2/3 of it (again due to gravity, just like all them dinosaurs had to pay the ultimate price due to gravity and that item or several which impacted Earth). This asteroid (2005 YU55) is arriving too damn fast to get captured as another moon or LEO item, but it’s certainly capable of demonstrating a method of capture should it have a glancing lithobraking encounter with our moon. Perhaps our crack FEMA and NOAA are simply getting themselves prepared for a seriously nasty big one (somewhat like our DoD and Pentagon were off playing war games based upon a large commercial aircraft smacking into tall buildings on the exact same day as such was actually happening). Does anyone here believe in Karma? This one is serious Warhol doom and gloom, and especially doom worthy if this bad-boy trajectory should drift by any micro-fraction of a degree and whack into our moon. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/comet...et20110502.gif http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...asteroid-flyby http://www.universetoday.com/85360/t...h-in-november/ Perhaps this November 9th asteroid (2005 YU55) as a 400 meter diameter worth of unknown mass (being that it’s so spherical could suggest a rather solid item of mostly nickel iron), passing through at 38 km/sec with its NEO distance of 324,600 km could conceivably manage to hit our moon at 13 km/sec. Too bad the regular JPL asteroid NEO simulator can’t muster up any specifics on how close it’ll get to our physically dark and naked moon. It looks as though it’ll miss the moon by roughly a little more than 0.5 LD as depicted in this following link. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/comet...et20110502.gif No doubt we’ll see a little fine tuning with their graphic simulation as it gets closer. A moon impact would not give us much time if some of the secondary shards are coming our way at 10+ km/sec, and of course there’s even a slight chance of a glancing blow whereas this item mostly survives its lithobraking encounter and subsequently becomes slowed down but otherwise more attracted to the Earth+moon gravity well. As far as anyone knows, this one has never gotten so close, so it’ll be interesting to see how much revising of its NEO simulation takes place, which should also tell us its mass. If the worse should happen, it’ll put one hell of a dent in our moon, either increasing its orbital velocity by a fraction of a percent and/or causing a slight rotation. At 264 million tonnes impacting at 13 km/sec, what could possibly go wrong? http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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Zubrin: Obama readies to blast NASA
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...to-blast-nasa/
Sure hope Zubrin is wrong. OMG... it's the END OF THE WORLD! Accept... a) we've had slow downs before. Even if things are cut back, we'll recover. b) Congress is the one that actually writes and approves the budget. Port is still strong. I can see cuts (heck, I could even favor some). But doomsday, nah. -- Greg D. Moore President Green Mountain Software http://www.greenms.com Help honor our WWII Veterans: http://www.honorflight.org/ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. |
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Zubrin: Obama readies to blast NASA
On Oct 27, 1:23*pm, jacob navia wrote:
Le 27/10/11 21:25, Hop a crit : http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...eadies-to-blas... Sure hope Zubrin is wrong. I do not think so. This administration has other priorities for the money from U.S. taxpayers: 1) Spending money in War and destruction 2) Spending money in War and destruction gear 3) Spending money for banks bailouts ... last: Research, education, culture, the arts. The next administration will likely have a faith based space program based in the power of positive thinking (no funding) no matter what the Obama crew does now. A Perry Admin would likely cancel the EPA and NASA and blamed bad weather on sinful ethnic or minority people. Trig |
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Zubrin: Obama readies to blast NASA: a lie
Le 27/10/11 21:25, Hop a écrit :
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...to-blast-nasa/ Sure hope Zubrin is wrong. Looking again at that newspaper (the washington times) I discover now that I misidentified it with the Washington Post, a newspaper that has similar front page font... Looking at the content of this newspaper it is obvious that this is a republican only newspaper, geared to the campaign against Obama. Obviously there is nothing wrong with being anti-Obama, but this newspaper is way too partisan to be taken seriously. There isn't ANY other major newspaper that has taken Mr Zubrin stand or given it credit, besides Slate... More important, NASA officials have denied the rumours started by Mr Zubrin: http://www.space.com/13431-nasa-plan...ts-rumors.html quote Speaking at an Oct. 27 meeting of the NASA Advisory Council’s Planetary Science subcommittee, Jim Green, director of NASA’s Planetary Science division, took issue with an opinion piece claiming the agency was gutting its robotic exploration program following a pair of upcoming missions. “It is not true the planetary program is being killed,” Green told subcommittee members participating via telephone and Internet. He was referring to an assertion by Robert Zubrin, an outspoken advocate of Mars exploration, in an opinion piece published Oct. 26 by the Washington Times. end quote |
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Zubrin: Obama readies to blast NASA: a lie
" More important, NASA officials have denied the rumours started by Mr Zubrin: Unfortunately this is the way most of my favorite Horror Movies start with Government Officials denying that Giant Ants, Giant Spiders, or some other monsters exist in the adjacent desert. As they're all laughing the subject monsters destroy half the town. The NASA guys have to spout the party line or be replaced by someone who will. You can't trust Washington! Val Kraut |
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