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Orbital solar power plants touted for energy needs
On Nov 18, 2:56*pm, Dr J R Stockton
wrote: In sci.space.policy message , Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:24:18, Doug Freyburger posted: *Ground solar has an issue called night that means the only way it can supply base load is to have transmission lines that cross the oceans. Not entirely exact. *Argentinian solar farms would be ideally placed to supply Beijing's street lighting, and the lines would only need to cross the Panama Canal and the Bering Straits, neither of which are oceans. A Bering Tunnel is routinely in contemplation, and it should be easy enough to tunnel under the Canal. -- *(c) John Stockton, nr London, UK. *Turnpike 6.05 *WinXP. *Web *http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/ - FAQ-type topics, acronyms, and links. *Command-prompt MiniTrue is useful for viewing/searching/altering files.. Free, *DOS/Win/UNIX now 2.0.6; see URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/pc-links.htm. The Atacama Desert is better situated. A solar powered version of the World Landbridge is possible. The Taklamakan Desert supplies Europe. The Sahara Desert supplies the Americas. Buckminster Fuller proposed this sort of power sharing back in the 1950s. Pipelines transmit hydrogen gas more cheaply than wires can. Superconducting wires have the potential to change that. The nice thing about hydrogen pipelines is that by changing the pressure, the amount of energy stored in them changes. So using hydrogen producing panels in a Landbridge type arrangement with rail, gas, water, and so forth - powered by large solar arrays - is possible. Connecting all the major areas of the world by maglev and pipelines, allows us to calculate, based on population distribution, the distribution of solar panels attached to the system to minimize energy storage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjR3tWBDPbI |
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Orbital solar power plants touted for energy needs
On Nov 23, 4:47*pm, William Mook wrote:
On Nov 21, 10:35*pm, Brad Guth wrote: On Nov 19, 3:17*am, William Mook wrote: On Nov 18, 11:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: Doug Freyburger wrote: Space based power can supplement base load. *Ground based solar can't. Why not? -- "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar *territory." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn It requires global interconnection and/or intermediate storage. *My solar panels produce hydrogen and oxygen from water. *The hydrogen is gathered and stored in depleted gas wells for up to 90 days. *The hydrogen is withdrawn as needed and transmitted to stationary power plants where it replaced carbon fuels. *Additional hydrogen is used to convert carbon fuel to liquid transportation fuels. *Those fuels are replaced with hydrogen as mobile systems are converted to hydrogen use. Stored solar energy can also be in the form of hot water, or simply in products made and/or processed from the clean energy. *Peak energy via industrial sized fuel cells that can reach 50% efficiency, plus their waste heat recovery should put this method up close to to 60%. Each and every community on Earth needs hot water for all sorts of reasons. Each and every community needs its utility electrical energy at something less then 5 cents per kwhr. (especially needed with those all-electric cars that'll need to consume an average of 50 kwhrs/day because all electric car manufactures basically lie when they claim such good performance with a new battery pack, usually no hills, no great number of stop and goes, no HVAC or nighttime driving and they do not mention the recharge conversion efficiency or the waste heat from such). Your terrestrial solar farms should have been established and at full capacity as of nearly a decade ago, and thereby providing cheaper energy for us, a cleaner environment plus exporting of energy related products and those Mokenergy synfuels as a done deal. Instead, the best system of advancing technology we got kinda sucks. DoE must stand for the Department of Exclusion, or perhaps Department of Extreme-Obfuscation. *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” Its hard to light a bulb or run a computer with hot water. It's not an all-or-nothing kind of thing. Obviously you could heat all sorts of nifty stuff besides water, not that hot water isn't extremely handy as is. Mokenergy should make as much LH2 and LOx as you can possibly store and deliver within reason, plus otherwise create other products (including my HTP) that demand a great deal of processing energy plus raw heat, and/or simply store the solar surplus energy within thousands of enormous and well insulated water tanks for communities to utilize on demand. We already know how to make those commercial polypropylene tanks of 10,000 gallons capacity, and we certainly know how to insulate those up to an extra R-256 if not better. I'm certain our DoEO will not give a tinkers damn because, they seem to be rather happy campers as is while screwing us out of every last dime. http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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