Tardigradas could colonize and terraform Mars

http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...digrada-63181/

The Tardigrada, a small creature which feast on moss, is the best
candidate to survive on the planet Mars. It can survive extreme
temperatures (down to almost absolute zero!!) and is resistant to UV
and radiation.

I call on wealthy individuals like Marc Shuttleworth and Elon Musk to
terraform Venus and Mars using Tardigrada and several other lychens and
bacteria. This could be done for relatively little money, no more than
hundred millon dollars. A small reentry vehicle which disperses
bacteria, lychens and Tardigrada from the upper atmosphere on down
would surely do the trick.

On Nov 28, 11:32*am, Kulin Remailer wrote:
http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...digrada-63181/

The Tardigrada, a small creature which feast on moss, is the best
candidate to survive on the planet Mars. It can survive extreme
temperatures (down to almost absolute zero!!) and is resistant to UV
and radiation.

I call on wealthy individuals like Marc Shuttleworth and Elon Musk to
terraform Venus and Mars using Tardigrada and several other lychens and
bacteria. This could be done for relatively little money, no more than
hundred millon dollars. A small reentry vehicle which disperses
bacteria, lychens and Tardigrada from the upper atmosphere on down
would surely do the trick.

is it really a good idea to go changing a environment we know so
little about?

other life forms are likely already there.....

On Nov 28, 8:35*am, " wrote:
On Nov 28, 11:32*am, Kulin Remailer wrote:

http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...digrada-63181/

The Tardigrada, a small creature which feast on moss, is the best
candidate to survive on the planet Mars. It can survive extreme
temperatures (down to almost absolute zero!!) and is resistant to UV
and radiation.

I call on wealthy individuals like Marc Shuttleworth and Elon Musk to
terraform Venus and Mars using Tardigrada and several other lychens and
bacteria. This could be done for relatively little money, no more than
hundred millon dollars. A small reentry vehicle which disperses
bacteria, lychens and Tardigrada from the upper atmosphere on down
would surely do the trick.

is it really a good idea to go changing a environment we know so
little about?

other life forms are likely already there.....

We've systematically screwed around with and traumatized most every m3
of our terrestrial environment past the point of no return as is,
without a stitch of remorse or hardly any regard to the mostly
negative consequences, so why not trash Mars while we're at it?

Perhaps on Mars we'll discover a robust diatom species that'll survive
on Earth, that'll feast on our growing surplus of toxic CO2 and NOx
first, before switching over to feasting on humans. At least that
would be a win-win-win for salvaging our Eden/Earth environment.

~ BG

On Nov 28, 3:34*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 28, 8:35*am, " wrote:





On Nov 28, 11:32*am, Kulin Remailer wrote:

http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...digrada-63181/

The Tardigrada, a small creature which feast on moss, is the best
candidate to survive on the planet Mars. It can survive extreme
temperatures (down to almost absolute zero!!) and is resistant to UV
and radiation.

I call on wealthy individuals like Marc Shuttleworth and Elon Musk to
terraform Venus and Mars using Tardigrada and several other lychens and
bacteria. This could be done for relatively little money, no more than
hundred millon dollars. A small reentry vehicle which disperses
bacteria, lychens and Tardigrada from the upper atmosphere on down
would surely do the trick.

is it really a good idea to go changing a environment we know so
little about?

other life forms are likely already there.....

We've systematically screwed around with and traumatized most every m3
of our terrestrial environment past the point of no return as is,
without a stitch of remorse or hardly any regard to the mostly
negative consequences, so why not trash Mars while we're at it?

Perhaps on Mars we'll discover a robust diatom species that'll survive
on Earth, that'll feast on our growing surplus of toxic CO2 and NOx
first, before switching over to feasting on humans. *At least that
would be a win-win-win for salvaging our Eden/Earth environment.

*~ BG- Hide quoted text -

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but what we send there to terraform kills the local life, and we can
only detect traces of it later.

wouldnt it be sad to kill the first lifeform from another planet?

On Nov 28, 8:32*am, Kulin Remailer wrote:
http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...digrada-63181/

The Tardigrada, a small creature which feast on moss, is the best
candidate to survive on the planet Mars. It can survive extreme
temperatures (down to almost absolute zero!!) and is resistant to UV
and radiation.

I call on wealthy individuals like Marc Shuttleworth and Elon Musk to
terraform Venus and Mars using Tardigrada and several other lychens and
bacteria. This could be done for relatively little money, no more than
hundred millon dollars. A small reentry vehicle which disperses
bacteria, lychens and Tardigrada from the upper atmosphere on down
would surely do the trick.

Either Venus or Mars are certainly as good as any (Venus being the
best option), although a few trial and error runs with Tardigradas
populating our moon couldn't hurt, whereas at least we could keep a
very close eye on their progress, or lack thereof. We could also
affordably send and deploy amounts of whatever nutrients (including O2
and h2o) to our moon on fairly regular robotic missions and as often
as necessary. Perhaps terraforming a deep lunar crater where there's
some environmental containment as well as protection from those pesky
meteors, dust and cosmic energy.

The typical 16 km Bessel crater is roughly 1.7 kilometers deep, and
there are certainly many others to pick from that are bigger and
deeper. "Eratosthenes is a relatively deep lunar impact crater that
lies on the boundary between the Mare Imbrium and Sinus Aestuum mare
regions" at 58 by 3.6 km deep is another good one. Little Ukert
crater of 23 by 2.9 km deep might also represent a good option. The
Copernicus crater at 93 by 3.8 km deep isn't more than 20 degrees off
center and less than 10 degrees north. The Triesnecker crater of 26 by
2.8 km deep is nearly dead center. A minimal artificial habitat
pocket creation within the Chladni crater of 13.6 by 2.6 km deep
should not be insurmountable. With sufficient resources we could
terraform the Albategnius crater that's worth 129 km by 4.4 km deep.

It seems most any lunar crater that's sufficiently deep and situated
within +/- 30 degrees of center would be real nifty and least costly
for our prototype, and if anything should go terribly wrong we could
just nuke the living snot out of it, and start over.

A Earth-moon L1 science platform of instruments and possibly as a
manned outpost/gateway for keeping a very close eye on everything
that's coming or going is yet another done deal that everyone needs.

~ BG

On Nov 28, 1:21*pm, " wrote:
On Nov 28, 3:34*pm, Brad Guth wrote:







On Nov 28, 8:35*am, " wrote:

On Nov 28, 11:32*am, Kulin Remailer wrote:

http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...digrada-63181/

The Tardigrada, a small creature which feast on moss, is the best
candidate to survive on the planet Mars. It can survive extreme
temperatures (down to almost absolute zero!!) and is resistant to UV
and radiation.

I call on wealthy individuals like Marc Shuttleworth and Elon Musk to
terraform Venus and Mars using Tardigrada and several other lychens and
bacteria. This could be done for relatively little money, no more than
hundred millon dollars. A small reentry vehicle which disperses
bacteria, lychens and Tardigrada from the upper atmosphere on down
would surely do the trick.

is it really a good idea to go changing a environment we know so
little about?

other life forms are likely already there.....

We've systematically screwed around with and traumatized most every m3
of our terrestrial environment past the point of no return as is,
without a stitch of remorse or hardly any regard to the mostly
negative consequences, so why not trash Mars while we're at it?

Perhaps on Mars we'll discover a robust diatom species that'll survive
on Earth, that'll feast on our growing surplus of toxic CO2 and NOx
first, before switching over to feasting on humans. *At least that
would be a win-win-win for salvaging our Eden/Earth environment.

*~ BG- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

but what we send there to terraform kills the local life, and we can
only detect traces of it later.

wouldnt it be sad to kill the first lifeform from another planet?

We've killed off thousands of environment critical species on Earth as
is, applied lethal dosages of Corexit to thousands of other complex
biodiversity species, modified countless other genetics of the global
biodiversity that which we humans are only 1 ppm of, as well as made
our lower atmosphere saturated with CO2 and NOx as somewhat toxic and
acidic to boot, and otherwise having methane, freon and soot polluted
the upper atmosphere. We're still losing roughly a tonne per second
of our precious helium that doesn't bind to hardly anything, and so
what's the big freaking deal about protecting little old Mars that's
about as lifeless as our moon?

So what if we exterminate the last few complex species of Mars life?
(and to think I'm not even Jewish)

~ BG

On Nov 28, 1:40*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:

but what we send there to terraform kills the local life, and we can
only detect traces of it later.

wouldnt it be sad to kill the first lifeform from another planet?

No, it wouldn't. *Why do you think it would?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn

I was just kidding, though obviously you and others of your kind never
kid.

As I sad before, we need to failsafe prototype this transforming
within a lunar crater, before we go out and about trashing other
planets.

~ BG

On Nov 28, 8:35*am, " wrote:
On Nov 28, 11:32*am, Kulin Remailer wrote:

http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...digrada-63181/

The Tardigrada, a small creature which feast on moss, is the best
candidate to survive on the planet Mars. It can survive extreme
temperatures (down to almost absolute zero!!) and is resistant to UV
and radiation.

I call on wealthy individuals like Marc Shuttleworth and Elon Musk to
terraform Venus and Mars using Tardigrada and several other lychens and
bacteria. This could be done for relatively little money, no more than
hundred millon dollars. A small reentry vehicle which disperses
bacteria, lychens and Tardigrada from the upper atmosphere on down
would surely do the trick.

is it really a good idea to go changing a environment we know so
little about?

other life forms are likely already there.....

Either Venus or Mars are certainly as good as any (Venus being by far
the best terraforming option), although a few trial and error runs
with those Tardigradas populating our moon couldn't hurt, whereas at
least we could keep a very close eye on their progress, or lack
thereof. We could also affordably send and deploy amounts of whatever
nutrients (including O2 and h2o) to our moon on fairly regular robotic
missions as often as necessary. Perhaps terraforming a deep lunar
crater where there's some environmental containment as well as
protection from those pesky meteors, dust and cosmic energy.

The typical 16 km Bessel crater is roughly 1.7 kilometers deep, and
there are certainly many others to pick from that are bigger and
deeper. "Eratosthenes is a relatively deep lunar impact crater that
lies on the boundary between the Mare Imbrium and Sinus Aestuum mare
regions" at 58 by 3.6 km deep is certainly another good one. The
little Ukert crater of 23 by 2.9 km deep might also represent a good
option. The Copernicus crater at 93 by 3.8 km deep isn't more than 20
degrees off center and less than 10 degrees north. The Triesnecker
crater of 26 by 2.8 km deep is nearly dead center. A minimal
artificial habitat pocket creation within the Chladni crater of 13.6
by 2.6 km deep should not be the least bit insurmountable. With
sufficient resources we could terraform the Albategnius crater that's
worth 129 km by 4.4 km deep.

It seems most any lunar crater that's sufficiently deep and situated
within +/- 30 degrees of center would be real nifty and least costly
for our prototype, and if anything should go terribly wrong we could
just nuke the living snot out of it, and start over.

A Earth-moon L1 science platform (aka Clarke Station or LSE-CM/ISS) of
instruments and possibly as a manned outpost/gateway for keeping a
very close eye on everything that's coming or going, is yet another
done deal that everyone needs as of decades ago.

~ BG

On Nov 28, 8:32*am, Kulin Remailer wrote:
http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...digrada-63181/

The Tardigrada, a small creature which feast on moss, is the best
candidate to survive on the planet Mars. It can survive extreme
temperatures (down to almost absolute zero!!) and is resistant to UV
and radiation.

I call on wealthy individuals like Marc Shuttleworth and Elon Musk to
terraform Venus and Mars using Tardigrada and several other lychens and
bacteria. This could be done for relatively little money, no more than
hundred millon dollars. A small reentry vehicle which disperses
bacteria, lychens and Tardigrada from the upper atmosphere on down
would surely do the trick.

Either Venus or Mars are certainly as good as any (Venus being by far
the best terraforming option), although a few trial and error runs
with those Tardigradas populating our moon couldn't hurt, whereas at
least we could keep a very close eye on their progress, or lack
thereof. We could also affordably send and deploy amounts of whatever
nutrients (including O2 and h2o) to our moon on fairly regular robotic
missions as often as necessary. Perhaps terraforming within a deep
lunar crater where there's some environmental containment as well as
protection from those pesky meteors, electrostatic dust and cosmic
energy shouldn't be ignored.

The typical 16 km Bessel crater is roughly 1.7 kilometers deep, and
there are certainly many others to pick from that are bigger and
deeper. "Eratosthenes is a relatively deep lunar impact crater that
lies on the boundary between the Mare Imbrium and Sinus Aestuum mare
regions" at 58 by 3.6 km deep is certainly another good one. The
little Ukert crater of 23 by 2.9 km deep might also represent a good
option. The Copernicus crater at 93 by 3.8 km deep isn't more than 20
degrees off center and less than 10 degrees north. The Triesnecker
crater of 26 by 2.8 km deep is nearly dead center. A minimal
artificial habitat pocket creation within the Chladni crater of 13.6
by 2.6 km deep should not be the least bit insurmountable. With
sufficient resources we could terraform the Albategnius crater that's
worth 129 km by 4.4 km deep.

It seems most any lunar crater that's sufficiently deep and situated
within +/- 30 degrees of center would be real nifty and least costly
for our prototype, and if anything should go terribly wrong we could
just nuke the living snot out of it, and start over.

A Earth-moon L1 science platform (aka Clarke Station or LSE-CM/ISS) of
instruments and possibly as a manned outpost/gateway for keeping a
very close eye on everything that's coming or going, is yet another
done deal that everyone needs as of decades ago.

~ BG

On Nov 28, 2:27*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 28, 8:32*am, Kulin Remailer wrote:

http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...digrada-63181/

The Tardigrada, a small creature which feast on moss, is the best
candidate to survive on the planet Mars. It can survive extreme
temperatures (down to almost absolute zero!!) and is resistant to UV
and radiation.

I call on wealthy individuals like Marc Shuttleworth and Elon Musk to
terraform Venus and Mars using Tardigrada and several other lychens and
bacteria. This could be done for relatively little money, no more than
hundred millon dollars. A small reentry vehicle which disperses
bacteria, lychens and Tardigrada from the upper atmosphere on down
would surely do the trick.

Either Venus or Mars are certainly as good as any (Venus being by far
the best terraforming option), although a few trial and error runs
with those Tardigradas populating our moon couldn't hurt, whereas at
least we could keep a very close eye on their progress, or lack
thereof. *We could also affordably send and deploy amounts of whatever
nutrients (including O2 and h2o) to our moon on fairly regular robotic
missions as often as necessary. *Perhaps terraforming within a deep
lunar crater where there's some environmental containment as well as
protection from those pesky meteors, electrostatic dust and cosmic
energy shouldn't be ignored.

The typical 16 km Bessel crater is roughly 1.7 kilometers deep, and
there are certainly many others to pick from that are bigger and
deeper. "Eratosthenes is a relatively deep lunar impact crater that
lies on the boundary between the Mare Imbrium and Sinus Aestuum mare
regions" at 58 by 3.6 km deep is certainly another good one. *The
little Ukert crater of 23 by 2.9 km deep might also represent a good
option. *The Copernicus crater at 93 by 3.8 km deep isn't more than 20
degrees off center and less than 10 degrees north. The Triesnecker
crater of 26 by 2.8 km deep is nearly dead center. *A minimal
artificial habitat pocket creation within the Chladni crater of 13.6
by 2.6 km deep should not be the least bit insurmountable. *With
sufficient resources we could terraform the Albategnius crater that's
worth 129 km by 4.4 km deep.

It seems most any lunar crater that's sufficiently deep and situated
within +/- 30 degrees of center would be real nifty and least costly
for our prototype, and if anything should go terribly wrong we could
just nuke the living snot out of it, and start over.

A Earth-moon L1 science platform (aka Clarke Station or LSE-CM/ISS) of
instruments and possibly as a manned outpost/gateway for keeping a
very close eye on everything that's coming or going, is yet another
done deal that everyone needs as of decades ago.

*~ BG

It would be relatively simple to cover a small crater with an inflated
mylar dome roof that would reflect sunlight by day, otherwise insulate
against the nighttime cold and thereby trap the precious O2 and the
h2o inside. Just think of it as a very large inflated swimming pool
cover/tent.

~ BG


~ BG