What goes up, or China's Skylab?

Perhaps not as large as Skylab, but an interesting parallel:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/06...se_tiangong_1/

Though it may be a while.

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Oh well, there's a new one set for launch this year:

http://www.spacepolicyonline.com/new...l ine+News%29


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As well as a more ambitious one set for completion around 2020:

http://gbtimes.com/china/chinas-spac...chinese-hubble


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There are even plans for "Space" Stations in Argentina:

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/0...-in-argentina/


And under the Sea:

http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/10/11...outh-sea-ocean


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I guess for China, the "Space" part of "Space Station" is optional.

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/space...o?id=2011-053A

This station was a test of technology anyway. They shut it down in December 2015 and are planning to launch another that will continue the programme.

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 11:39:42 PM UTC-4, William Mook wrote:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/space...o?id=2011-053A

This station was a test of technology anyway. They shut it down in December 2015 and are planning to launch another that will continue the programme.

sooner or later, a space something thats left in orbit powerless will hit a major city somewhere.......

bob haller wrote:

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 11:39:42 PM UTC-4, William Mook wrote:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/space...o?id=2011-053A

This station was a test of technology anyway. They shut it down in December 2015 and are planning to launch another that will continue the programme.

sooner or later, a space something thats left in orbit powerless will hit a major city somewhere.......


And Bobbert is back to his old Chicken Little self...


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On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:09:42 PM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 11:39:42 PM UTC-4, William Mook wrote:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/space...o?id=2011-053A

This station was a test of technology anyway. They shut it down in December 2015 and are planning to launch another that will continue the programme.

sooner or later, a space something thats left in orbit powerless will hit a major city somewhere.......


And Bobbert is back to his old Chicken Little self...


--
"Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

i will remember your post, when the unthinkable happens and debris come down in a major city.

launching anything without proper plans for disposal is just plain dumb

bob haller wrote:

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:09:42 PM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 11:39:42 PM UTC-4, William Mook wrote:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/space...o?id=2011-053A

This station was a test of technology anyway. They shut it down in December 2015 and are planning to launch another that will continue the programme.

sooner or later, a space something thats left in orbit powerless will hit a major city somewhere.......


And Bobbert is back to his old Chicken Little self...


i will remember your post, when the unthinkable happens and debris come down in a major city.

launching anything without proper plans for disposal is just plain dumb


Except, given your history, you will misremember it and claim to have
'told us so' over nothing.


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On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 1:07:43 AM UTC+12, bob haller wrote:
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:09:42 PM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 11:39:42 PM UTC-4, William Mook wrote:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/space...o?id=2011-053A

This station was a test of technology anyway. They shut it down in December 2015 and are planning to launch another that will continue the programme.

sooner or later, a space something thats left in orbit powerless will hit a major city somewhere.......


And Bobbert is back to his old Chicken Little self...


--
"Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

i will remember your post, when the unthinkable happens and debris come down in a major city.

launching anything without proper plans for disposal is just plain dumb

China had plans to deorbit the space station. So, you can't fault them for not having plans.

Here's what Wikipedia has to say about it;

Tiangong-1 (Chinese: 天宫一å�·; pinyin: TiÄ�ngÅ�ng yÄ«hÃ*o; literally: "Heavenly Palace 1") is China's first space station, serving as both a manned laboratory and an experimental testbed to demonstrate orbital rendezvous and docking capabilities. Launched unmanned aboard a Long March 2F/G rocket on 29 September 2011, it is the first operational component of the Tiangong program, which aims to place a larger, modular station into orbit by 2023. As of September 2011, Tiangong-1 was projected to be deorbited in 2013, and replaced over the following decade by the larger Tiangong-2 and Tiangong-3 modules.[12] However, Tiangong-1 remains in uncontrolled orbit as of 2016.

Tiangong-1 was visited by a series of Shenzhou spacecraft during its two-year operational lifetime. The first of these, the unmanned Shenzhou 8, successfully docked with the module in November 2011, while the manned Shenzhou 9 mission docked in June 2012. A third and final mission to Tiangong-1, the manned Shenzhou 10, docked in June 2013. The manned missions to Tiangong-1 were notable for including China's first female astronauts, Liu Yang and Wang Yaping.

Recent reports in Australia indicate that Western News Media may be suffering from an anti-China bias in their reporting. According to one reporter who recently visited the Chinese space agency the Tiangong-1 isn't scheduled for a reboost until mid-2017 and to save money, the Chinese shut down data transmission from the spacecraft. According to reports from the Chinese space agency the Tiangong-1 will be powered back up and reboosted sometime first quarter 2017.

http://mashable.com/2016/07/13/tiang.../#KANcqtD2KEq3

So, if you believe the Chinese, nothing to see here folks.

On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 6:37:23 PM UTC-4, William Mook wrote:
On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 1:07:43 AM UTC+12, bob haller wrote:
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:09:42 PM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 11:39:42 PM UTC-4, William Mook wrote:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/space...o?id=2011-053A

This station was a test of technology anyway. They shut it down in December 2015 and are planning to launch another that will continue the programme.

sooner or later, a space something thats left in orbit powerless will hit a major city somewhere.......


And Bobbert is back to his old Chicken Little self...


--
"Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

i will remember your post, when the unthinkable happens and debris come down in a major city.

launching anything without proper plans for disposal is just plain dumb

China had plans to deorbit the space station. So, you can't fault them for not having plans.

Here's what Wikipedia has to say about it;

Tiangong-1 (Chinese: 天宫一å�·; pinyin: TiÄ�ngÅ�ng yÄ«hÃ*o; literally: "Heavenly Palace 1") is China's first space station, serving as both a manned laboratory and an experimental testbed to demonstrate orbital rendezvous and docking capabilities. Launched unmanned aboard a Long March 2F/G rocket on 29 September 2011, it is the first operational component of the Tiangong program, which aims to place a larger, modular station into orbit by 2023. As of September 2011, Tiangong-1 was projected to be deorbited in 2013, and replaced over the following decade by the larger Tiangong-2 and Tiangong-3 modules.[12] However, Tiangong-1 remains in uncontrolled orbit as of 2016.

Tiangong-1 was visited by a series of Shenzhou spacecraft during its two-year operational lifetime. The first of these, the unmanned Shenzhou 8, successfully docked with the module in November 2011, while the manned Shenzhou 9 mission docked in June 2012. A third and final mission to Tiangong-1, the manned Shenzhou 10, docked in June 2013. The manned missions to Tiangong-1 were notable for including China's first female astronauts, Liu Yang and Wang Yaping.

Recent reports in Australia indicate that Western News Media may be suffering from an anti-China bias in their reporting. According to one reporter who recently visited the Chinese space agency the Tiangong-1 isn't scheduled for a reboost until mid-2017 and to save money, the Chinese shut down data transmission from the spacecraft. According to reports from the Chinese space agency the Tiangong-1 will be powered back up and reboosted sometime first quarter 2017.

http://mashable.com/2016/07/13/tiang.../#KANcqtD2KEq3

So, if you believe the Chinese, nothing to see here folks.

any stations shouldhave one last docking before being mothballed.

a dedicated deorbit module, to ensure its safely reenters, or boosted to a safe long term storage orbit

"bob haller" wrote in message
...

On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 6:37:23 PM UTC-4, William Mook wrote:
On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 1:07:43 AM UTC+12, bob haller wrote:
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:09:42 PM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 11:39:42 PM UTC-4, William Mook wrote:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/space...o?id=2011-053A

This station was a test of technology anyway. They shut it down
in December 2015 and are planning to launch another that will
continue the programme.

sooner or later, a space something thats left in orbit powerless
will hit a major city somewhere.......


And Bobbert is back to his old Chicken Little self...


--
"Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

i will remember your post, when the unthinkable happens and debris come
down in a major city.

launching anything without proper plans for disposal is just plain dumb

China had plans to deorbit the space station. So, you can't fault them
for not having plans.

Here's what Wikipedia has to say about it;

Tiangong-1 (Chinese: ????; pinyin: Tiangong yihÃ*o; literally: "Heavenly
Palace 1") is China's first space station, serving as both a manned
laboratory and an experimental testbed to demonstrate orbital rendezvous
and docking capabilities. Launched unmanned aboard a Long March 2F/G
rocket on 29 September 2011, it is the first operational component of the
Tiangong program, which aims to place a larger, modular station into
orbit by 2023. As of September 2011, Tiangong-1 was projected to be
deorbited in 2013, and replaced over the following decade by the larger
Tiangong-2 and Tiangong-3 modules.[12] However, Tiangong-1 remains in
uncontrolled orbit as of 2016.

Tiangong-1 was visited by a series of Shenzhou spacecraft during its
two-year operational lifetime. The first of these, the unmanned Shenzhou
8, successfully docked with the module in November 2011, while the manned
Shenzhou 9 mission docked in June 2012. A third and final mission to
Tiangong-1, the manned Shenzhou 10, docked in June 2013. The manned
missions to Tiangong-1 were notable for including China's first female
astronauts, Liu Yang and Wang Yaping.

Recent reports in Australia indicate that Western News Media may be
suffering from an anti-China bias in their reporting. According to one
reporter who recently visited the Chinese space agency the Tiangong-1
isn't scheduled for a reboost until mid-2017 and to save money, the
Chinese shut down data transmission from the spacecraft. According to
reports from the Chinese space agency the Tiangong-1 will be powered back
up and reboosted sometime first quarter 2017.

http://mashable.com/2016/07/13/tiang.../#KANcqtD2KEq3

So, if you believe the Chinese, nothing to see here folks.

any stations shouldhave one last docking before being mothballed.

a dedicated deorbit module, to ensure its safely reenters, or boosted to a
safe long term storage orbit


Which if you're paying attention, is the basic plan. It's in part how Mir
was deorbited and the plan for ISS and apparently Tiangong-1.

Nations are responsible for what they put into orbit. No nation really wants
to pay for a part of their station hitting downtown Manhattan.
(unless perhaps a certain Presidential Candidate who calls NY State their
home is there. :-)
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