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NASA asteroid scientists versus 13-year-old.
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NASA asteroid scientists versus 13-year-old.
And guess who wins?: http://www.physorg.com/news127499715.html
Pat http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2008...culations.html |
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NASA asteroid scientists versus 13-year-old.
On Apr 17, 4:05 am, Jean-Jacques Serra wrote:
And guess who wins?:http://www.physorg.com/news127499715.html Pat http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2008...nt_asteroid_ca... RELEASE : 08-103 NASA Statement on Student Asteroid Calculations "WASHINGTON -- The Near-Earth Object Program Office at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., has not changed its current estimates for the very low probability (1 in 45,000) of an Earth impact by the asteroid Apophis in 2036. Contrary to recent press reports, NASA offices involved in near-Earth object research were not contacted and have had no correspondence with a young German student, who claims the Apophis impact probability is far higher than the current estimate. This student's conclusion reportedly is based on the possibility of a collision with an artificial satellite during the asteroid's close approach in April 2029. However, the asteroid will not pass near the main belt of geosynchronous satellites in 2029, and the chance of a collision with a satellite is exceedingly remote. Therefore, consideration of this satellite collision scenario does not affect the current impact probability estimate for Apophis, which remains at 1 in 45,000." - Why of course, and it's not ever going to impact anything else along it's multi-year trek. Besides, we can always trust our NASA over the expertise and wisdom of all others, just like we'd trusted our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush). .. - Brad Guth |
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NASA asteroid scientists versus 13-year-old.
"Pat Flannery" wrote in message news:9uedndNH2KzPSZvVnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@northdakotat elephone... And guess who wins?: http://www.physorg.com/news127499715.html The scientists. The kid was wrong and the news stories that say he's right are also wrong. NASA Watch has some info on this. Jeff -- A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein |
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NASA asteroid scientists versus 13-year-old.
Jean-Jacques Serra wrote: And guess who wins?: http://www.physorg.com/news127499715.html Pat http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2008...culations.html And so the cover-up begins! It's time to start building the Space Ark, like in "When Worlds Collide"! Nothing bad ever happened on Friday the 13th, that's for sure. NASA knows there is nothing unlucky about the number "13". Friday, the 13th of April of 2029, will be just like any other day...when around a five billion people die, and humanity is thrown into a new dark age ruled by the Antichrist...after Apophis hits _ALL_ of the GEO satellites and falls straight down onto the ruins of Sodom and Gomorrah, as the Holy-Bible-Book of Revelation predicts! 7,666* days till Apophis/Wormwood! Waste anything but time! * Note...the number of the beast! Rev. Jimmy-Joe Godknow and the Rev. Martin Luther Bling Full Gospel Olde-Timey Evangelical Rubber Snake Handling Church Under The Rock Coalslag, West Virginia P.S. We are bitter...and we are well-armed! :-) |
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NASA asteroid scientists versus 13-year-old.
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"Jeff Findley" wrote: "Pat Flannery" wrote in message news:9uedndNH2KzPSZvVnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@northdakotat elephone... And guess who wins?: http://www.physorg.com/news127499715.html The scientists. The kid was wrong and the news stories that say he's right are also wrong. NASA Watch has some info on this. Jeff I would have to examine the models used in both calculations, as long-term perturbations from Earth, Venus, Jupiter, solar wind, etc. of Apophis' orbit can affect the answers. This is not something you can calculate on the back of an envelope and get a meaningful answer. -- Remove _'s from email address to talk to me. |
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Orval Fairbairn wrote: This is not something you can calculate on the back of an envelope and get a meaningful answer. If that envelope contains a prayer offering to our church, you can! The meaningful answer is that only the Godknow/Bling Prayer Poncho can save your soul when that Hell-born asteroid falls to Earth. And the bigger that offering is, the bigger the Prayer Poncho you will receive! You wouldn't just want your head and torso to go to heaven, while your arms and legs remain on the Wormwood-blighted Earth under the control of the Antichrist, would you? :-) Rev. Godknow F.G.O.T.E.R.S.H.C.U.T.R. Coalslag, West Virginia |
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NASA asteroid scientists versus 13-year-old.
"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message news In article , "Jeff Findley" wrote: "Pat Flannery" wrote in message news:9uedndNH2KzPSZvVnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@northdakotat elephone... And guess who wins?: http://www.physorg.com/news127499715.html The scientists. The kid was wrong and the news stories that say he's right are also wrong. NASA Watch has some info on this. Jeff I would have to examine the models used in both calculations, as long-term perturbations from Earth, Venus, Jupiter, solar wind, etc. of Apophis' orbit can affect the answers. This is not something you can calculate on the back of an envelope and get a meaningful answer. Sure this isn't something you can do on the back of an envelope. My Orbital Mechanics professor at Purdue used to work at JPL. She's still at Purdue doing really interesting work. I had to work pretty hard in that class, so I know how hard it can be even for a "simple" problem like the kind you'd find on a 500 level exam. So, who are you going to believe? The kid with the science fair project or NASA? Jeff -- A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein |
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NASA asteroid scientists versus 13-year-old.
Jeff Findley wrote: So, who are you going to believe? The kid with the science fair project or NASA? I'm thinking about it. After the water-created blueberries on Mars that turned out to be meteorite impact splash, and the "recent liquid water" flow down the inside of the crater that turned out not to have been caused by liquid water, NASA isn't at the top of my list for reliable information these days. Mind you, this German kid's science fair project last year about the mysterious loss of bee populations being due to their being eaten by near-invisible Skyfish was a little odd also. But he's matured a lot since then, I'm sure. Even WvB wasn't taken seriously when he was young and shot that rocket into the neighbor's greenhouse, explaining to the police that someday his rockets were going to be blowing up greenhouses in London, and they'd be sorry then, as he'd have them all sent off to labor camps. Did NASA ever look into what would happen if Apophis _did_ hit a GEO satellite? The change in velocity to the asteroid would be very tiny, but over the seven year period between that encounter and its next close pass in 2036, such a velocity change would move it either a bit closer or further away from Earth. Pat |
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NASA asteroid scientists versus 13-year-old.
"Pat Flannery" wrote in message news:UO2dnUgXqKIQQ5rVnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@northdakotat elephone... Did NASA ever look into what would happen if Apophis _did_ hit a GEO satellite? Why? The trajectory analysis says it's not going to come anywhere near GEO comsats. Remember, these aren't scattered at random, they're all in in equitorial orbits at the same altitude. Apophis would need to cross that very thin hula-hoop shaped region containing the GEO comsats for this ever to become a problem. The change in velocity to the asteroid would be very tiny, but over the seven year period between that encounter and its next close pass in 2036, such a velocity change would move it either a bit closer or further away from Earth. True, but the answer to that is "run the numbers". This might actually make for a good Master's Thesis topic. ;-) Jeff -- A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein |
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