Fully formed 8-11 billion year old galaxies observed.

Mature galaxies are found 8-11 billion years ago (or 8-11 billion ly
distant, take your pick).

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=14531


Hope this isn't off topic.

Regards,
Etok

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Etok wrote:

Mature galaxies are found 8-11 billion years ago (or 8-11 billion ly
distant, take your pick).

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=14531

Hope this isn't off topic.


Ref: http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm#News
From Ned Wright's Cosmological Tutorial

Most Distant Object Record Smashed

1 Mar 2004 - Pello et al. have found a galaxy much further away from us
than any previously known. The evidence comes from a single line
observed in the infrared which imples a redshift of z = 10. The source
is seen magnified by a cluster of galaxies, Abell 1935, acting as a
gravitational lens, and the source location is where sources with 9 z
11 should be very highly magnified. The colors of the source are also
very consistent with z = 10. The technical paper and the press release
both give pictures and spectra of this object. My Cosmology Calculator
gives for z = 10 and the WMAP cosmic parameters (Ho=71, OmegaM=0.27 in
a flat Universe) and age of the Universe of 0.48 Gyr at the time the
light we see was emitted, a light travel time of 13.18 Gyr, and a
current distance of 31.5 billion light years. This distance is much
greater than the speed of light times the light travel time because the
Universe has expanded by factors between 1 and 1+z=11 since the light
did its traveling.

See: http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm#News

Etok wrote:

Mature galaxies are found 8-11 billion years ago (or 8-11 billion ly
distant, take your pick).

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=14531

Hope this isn't off topic.


Ref: http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm#News
From Ned Wright's Cosmological Tutorial

Most Distant Object Record Smashed

1 Mar 2004 - Pello et al. have found a galaxy much further away from us
than any previously known. The evidence comes from a single line
observed in the infrared which imples a redshift of z = 10. The source
is seen magnified by a cluster of galaxies, Abell 1935, acting as a
gravitational lens, and the source location is where sources with 9 z
11 should be very highly magnified. The colors of the source are also
very consistent with z = 10. The technical paper and the press release
both give pictures and spectra of this object. My Cosmology Calculator
gives for z = 10 and the WMAP cosmic parameters (Ho=71, OmegaM=0.27 in
a flat Universe) and age of the Universe of 0.48 Gyr at the time the
light we see was emitted, a light travel time of 13.18 Gyr, and a
current distance of 31.5 billion light years. This distance is much
greater than the speed of light times the light travel time because the
Universe has expanded by factors between 1 and 1+z=11 since the light
did its traveling.

See: http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm#News

"Etok" wrote in message
...
Mature galaxies are found 8-11 billion years ago (or 8-11 billion ly
distant, take your pick).

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=14531


Hope this isn't off topic.

Regards,
Etok

That's very interesting. Of course, those findings fly in the face of the
current theory saying that galaxies can't form that early.

Jon


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"Etok" wrote in message
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Mature galaxies are found 8-11 billion years ago (or 8-11 billion ly
distant, take your pick).

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=14531


Hope this isn't off topic.

Regards,
Etok

That's very interesting. Of course, those findings fly in the face of the
current theory saying that galaxies can't form that early.

Jon


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"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
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Etok wrote:

Mature galaxies are found 8-11 billion years ago (or 8-11 billion ly
distant, take your pick).

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=14531

Hope this isn't off topic.


Ref: http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm#News
From Ned Wright's Cosmological Tutorial

Most Distant Object Record Smashed

1 Mar 2004 - Pello et al. have found a galaxy much further away from us
than any previously known. The evidence comes from a single line
observed in the infrared which imples a redshift of z = 10. The source
is seen magnified by a cluster of galaxies, Abell 1935, acting as a
gravitational lens, and the source location is where sources with 9 z
11 should be very highly magnified. The colors of the source are also
very consistent with z = 10. The technical paper and the press release
both give pictures and spectra of this object. My Cosmology Calculator
gives for z = 10 and the WMAP cosmic parameters (Ho=71, OmegaM=0.27 in
a flat Universe) and age of the Universe of 0.48 Gyr at the time the
light we see was emitted, a light travel time of 13.18 Gyr, and a
current distance of 31.5 billion light years. This distance is much
greater than the speed of light times the light travel time because the
Universe has expanded by factors between 1 and 1+z=11 since the light
did its traveling.


Nearly 32 billion l.y.? Wow! I guess that challenges the current age of
the universe a bit.

Jon

See: http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm#News

"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
...
Etok wrote:

Mature galaxies are found 8-11 billion years ago (or 8-11 billion ly
distant, take your pick).

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=14531

Hope this isn't off topic.


Ref: http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm#News
From Ned Wright's Cosmological Tutorial

Most Distant Object Record Smashed

1 Mar 2004 - Pello et al. have found a galaxy much further away from us
than any previously known. The evidence comes from a single line
observed in the infrared which imples a redshift of z = 10. The source
is seen magnified by a cluster of galaxies, Abell 1935, acting as a
gravitational lens, and the source location is where sources with 9 z
11 should be very highly magnified. The colors of the source are also
very consistent with z = 10. The technical paper and the press release
both give pictures and spectra of this object. My Cosmology Calculator
gives for z = 10 and the WMAP cosmic parameters (Ho=71, OmegaM=0.27 in
a flat Universe) and age of the Universe of 0.48 Gyr at the time the
light we see was emitted, a light travel time of 13.18 Gyr, and a
current distance of 31.5 billion light years. This distance is much
greater than the speed of light times the light travel time because the
Universe has expanded by factors between 1 and 1+z=11 since the light
did its traveling.


Nearly 32 billion l.y.? Wow! I guess that challenges the current age of
the universe a bit.

Jon

See: http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm#News

Sam Wormley cited:
This distance is much
greater than the speed of light times the light travel time because the
Universe has expanded by factors between 1 and 1+z=11 since the light
did its traveling.

Jon Kickerston wrote:
Nearly 32 billion l.y.? Wow! I guess that challenges the current age of
the universe a bit.

No, it doesn't, actually--check the last paragraph of Sam's cite, which
I retained. The expansion of the universe, as measured by the speed at
which two particular objects are separating from one another, is not
limited by the speed of light. The universe therefore does not have to
be 32 billion years old in order for two objects to be 32 billion
light-years apart.

Brian Tung
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Unofficial C5+ Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/c5plus/
The PleiadAtlas Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/pleiadatlas/
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Sam Wormley cited:
This distance is much
greater than the speed of light times the light travel time because the
Universe has expanded by factors between 1 and 1+z=11 since the light
did its traveling.

Jon Kickerston wrote:
Nearly 32 billion l.y.? Wow! I guess that challenges the current age of
the universe a bit.

No, it doesn't, actually--check the last paragraph of Sam's cite, which
I retained. The expansion of the universe, as measured by the speed at
which two particular objects are separating from one another, is not
limited by the speed of light. The universe therefore does not have to
be 32 billion years old in order for two objects to be 32 billion
light-years apart.

Brian Tung
The Astronomy Corner at http://astro.isi.edu/
Unofficial C5+ Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/c5plus/
The PleiadAtlas Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/pleiadatlas/
My Own Personal FAQ (SAA) at http://astro.isi.edu/reference/faq.txt

Jon Kickerston wrote:

"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
...
Etok wrote:

Mature galaxies are found 8-11 billion years ago (or 8-11 billion ly
distant, take your pick).

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=14531

Hope this isn't off topic.


Ref: http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm#News
From Ned Wright's Cosmological Tutorial

Most Distant Object Record Smashed

1 Mar 2004 - Pello et al. have found a galaxy much further away from us
than any previously known. The evidence comes from a single line
observed in the infrared which imples a redshift of z = 10. The source
is seen magnified by a cluster of galaxies, Abell 1935, acting as a
gravitational lens, and the source location is where sources with 9 z
11 should be very highly magnified. The colors of the source are also
very consistent with z = 10. The technical paper and the press release
both give pictures and spectra of this object. My Cosmology Calculator
gives for z = 10 and the WMAP cosmic parameters (Ho=71, OmegaM=0.27 in
a flat Universe) and age of the Universe of 0.48 Gyr at the time the
light we see was emitted, a light travel time of 13.18 Gyr, and a
current distance of 31.5 billion light years. This distance is much
greater than the speed of light times the light travel time because the
Universe has expanded by factors between 1 and 1+z=11 since the light
did its traveling.

Nearly 32 billion l.y.? Wow! I guess that challenges the current age of
the universe a bit.


That can be misleading... the age is still a young 13.7 Gyr... by the
light left the galaxy 13.18 Gyr ago when thing were a lot closer.