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Old May 25th 18, 12:09 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default China launch will prep for Moon landing

On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 5:37:14 AM UTC-7, Mike Collins wrote:

On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 11:01:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
On Monday, 21 May 2018 11:59:43 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44198673

China has launched a relay satellite to prepare for a lunar rover
mission planned for later in the year.

China is very ambitious?

The tragic thing is they are more less replicating things that were done
what, 55 YEARS ago? We should have colonized the Moon AND Mars y now,
visited all the other planets, and have a ship headed to a near star
system. But lack of interest by an increasingly science-illiterate
public and increasing weak-willed politicians means the space program is
back at square one, wondering slack-jawed if they can cobble together
another Saturn V for a return trip to the Moon and keeping that
worthless money-pit the ISS in orbit.


So where do you get the money for colonizing the Moon, Mars?
Also, has to be technological break through's, which is never linear with
the amount of money spend.


Without Nixon sabotaging the Vietnam peace talks to win an election the war
would have ended years earlier. Plenty of money to continue Apollo level
spending.


We still don't know how to shield against radiation of the astronauts in space for long time travel?
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Old May 25th 18, 12:57 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default China launch will prep for Moon landing

On Thursday, 24 May 2018 04:50:11 UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
RichA wrote:
On Monday, 21 May 2018 11:59:43 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44198673

China has launched a relay satellite to prepare for a lunar rover
mission planned for later in the year.

China is very ambitious?


The tragic thing is they are more less replicating things that were done
what, 55 YEARS ago? We should have colonized the Moon AND Mars y now,
visited all the other planets, and have a ship headed to a near star
system. But lack of interest by an increasingly science-illiterate public
and increasing weak-willed politicians means the space program is back at
square one, wondering slack-jawed if they can cobble together another
Saturn V for a return trip to the Moon and keeping that worthless
money-pit the ISS in orbit.


If the USA had a second Johnson term instead of Nixon the Vietnam war would
have ended years earlier and the USA would have been on Mars before the end
of the 20th century.


Johnson had already set the U.S. down the debt road with his "Great Society" which cost as much as Vietnam. He was also a paper tiger who bailed because he could't take the pressure.
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Old May 25th 18, 02:39 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Scott M. Kozel[_2_]
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Default China launch will prep for Moon landing

On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 8:37:14 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
StarDust wrote:
On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 11:01:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
On Monday, 21 May 2018 11:59:43 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44198673

China has launched a relay satellite to prepare for a lunar rover
mission planned for later in the year.

China is very ambitious?

The tragic thing is they are more less replicating things that were done
what, 55 YEARS ago? We should have colonized the Moon AND Mars y now,
visited all the other planets, and have a ship headed to a near star
system. But lack of interest by an increasingly science-illiterate
public and increasing weak-willed politicians means the space program is
back at square one, wondering slack-jawed if they can cobble together
another Saturn V for a return trip to the Moon and keeping that
worthless money-pit the ISS in orbit.


So where do you get the money for colonizing the Moon, Mars?
Also, has to be technological break through's, which is never linear with
the amount of money spend.


Without Nixon sabotaging the Vietnam peace talks to win an election the war
would have ended years earlier. Plenty of money to continue Apollo level
spending.


Without Kennedy there would have been no Vietnam War to begin with.
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Old May 25th 18, 02:19 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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RichA wrote:
On Thursday, 24 May 2018 04:50:11 UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
RichA wrote:
On Monday, 21 May 2018 11:59:43 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44198673

China has launched a relay satellite to prepare for a lunar rover
mission planned for later in the year.

China is very ambitious?

The tragic thing is they are more less replicating things that were done
what, 55 YEARS ago? We should have colonized the Moon AND Mars y now,
visited all the other planets, and have a ship headed to a near star
system. But lack of interest by an increasingly science-illiterate public
and increasing weak-willed politicians means the space program is back at
square one, wondering slack-jawed if they can cobble together another
Saturn V for a return trip to the Moon and keeping that worthless
money-pit the ISS in orbit.


If the USA had a second Johnson term instead of Nixon the Vietnam war would
have ended years earlier and the USA would have been on Mars before the end
of the 20th century.


Johnson had already set the U.S. down the debt road with his "Great
Society" which cost as much as Vietnam. He was also a paper tiger who
bailed because he could't take the pressure.


Without Kennedy and Johnson there’d have been no Apollo.


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Old May 25th 18, 02:28 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Johnson had already set the U.S. down the debt road with his "Great Society" which cost as much as Vietnam. He was also a paper tiger who bailed because he could't take the pressure.

Poppycock.

The US could easily afford the Great Society. The country went off the rails throwing money away on unsustainable suburban sprawl, highways, and the never ending quest for military supremacy.

Allowing miners, ranchers, and oil drillers access to public resources at 19th century prices sure didn't help matters either.

Johnson opted not to run for a second term because he thought there was a real chance to reach a viable peace in Vietnam. It is well established Johnson's peace effort was surreptitiously - and illegally - undermined by the Nixon camp.

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Old May 25th 18, 03:11 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default China launch will prep for Moon landing

Scott M. Kozel wrote:
On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 8:37:14 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
StarDust wrote:
On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 11:01:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
On Monday, 21 May 2018 11:59:43 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44198673

China has launched a relay satellite to prepare for a lunar rover
mission planned for later in the year.

China is very ambitious?

The tragic thing is they are more less replicating things that were done
what, 55 YEARS ago? We should have colonized the Moon AND Mars y now,
visited all the other planets, and have a ship headed to a near star
system. But lack of interest by an increasingly science-illiterate
public and increasing weak-willed politicians means the space program is
back at square one, wondering slack-jawed if they can cobble together
another Saturn V for a return trip to the Moon and keeping that
worthless money-pit the ISS in orbit.

So where do you get the money for colonizing the Moon, Mars?
Also, has to be technological break through's, which is never linear with
the amount of money spend.


Without Nixon sabotaging the Vietnam peace talks to win an election the war
would have ended years earlier. Plenty of money to continue Apollo level
spending.


Without Kennedy there would have been no Vietnam War to begin with.


Debt was stave under Johnson. It didn’t start to go through the roof until
Reagan.


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Old May 25th 18, 11:41 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 8:28:19 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Johnson had already set the U.S. down the debt road with his "Great Society" which cost as much as Vietnam. He was also a paper tiger who bailed because he could't take the pressure.


Poppycock.

The US could easily afford the Great Society. The country went off the rails throwing money away on unsustainable suburban sprawl, highways, and the never ending quest for military supremacy.

Allowing miners, ranchers, and oil drillers access to public resources at 19th century prices sure didn't help matters either.

Johnson opted not to run for a second term because he thought there was a real chance to reach a viable peace in Vietnam. It is well established Johnson's peace effort was surreptitiously - and illegally - undermined by the Nixon camp.


We keep bobbling back and forth between one administration and another. Never any long term outlook or follow-thru, just short term programs that are then scuttled by the next administration.
“Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. " H.L.Mencken
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Old May 26th 18, 12:51 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 3:41:51 PM UTC-7, Razzmatazz wrote:
On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 8:28:19 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Johnson had already set the U.S. down the debt road with his "Great Society" which cost as much as Vietnam. He was also a paper tiger who bailed because he could't take the pressure.


Poppycock.

The US could easily afford the Great Society. The country went off the rails throwing money away on unsustainable suburban sprawl, highways, and the never ending quest for military supremacy.

Allowing miners, ranchers, and oil drillers access to public resources at 19th century prices sure didn't help matters either.

Johnson opted not to run for a second term because he thought there was a real chance to reach a viable peace in Vietnam. It is well established Johnson's peace effort was surreptitiously - and illegally - undermined by the Nixon camp.


We keep bobbling back and forth between one administration and another. Never any long term outlook or follow-thru, just short term programs that are then scuttled by the next administration.
“Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. " H.L.Mencken


AS one economist said - Don't try to build a bridge the democratic way, it won't work, it will collapse.
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Old May 26th 18, 04:22 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Scott M. Kozel[_2_]
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Default China launch will prep for Moon landing

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 10:11:16 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
Scott M. Kozel wrote:
On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 8:37:14 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
StarDust wrote:
On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 11:01:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
On Monday, 21 May 2018 11:59:43 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44198673

China has launched a relay satellite to prepare for a lunar rover
mission planned for later in the year.

China is very ambitious?

The tragic thing is they are more less replicating things that were done
what, 55 YEARS ago? We should have colonized the Moon AND Mars y now,
visited all the other planets, and have a ship headed to a near star
system. But lack of interest by an increasingly science-illiterate
public and increasing weak-willed politicians means the space program is
back at square one, wondering slack-jawed if they can cobble together
another Saturn V for a return trip to the Moon and keeping that
worthless money-pit the ISS in orbit.

So where do you get the money for colonizing the Moon, Mars?
Also, has to be technological break through's, which is never linear with
the amount of money spend.


Without Nixon sabotaging the Vietnam peace talks to win an election the war
would have ended years earlier. Plenty of money to continue Apollo level
spending.


Without Kennedy there would have been no Vietnam War to begin with.


Debt was stave under Johnson. It didn’t start to go through the roof until
Reagan.


The national economy was moribund under Johnson. It didn’t start to go
through the roof until Reagan.
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Old May 26th 18, 04:37 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 7:08:36 AM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 23 May 2018 2
wrote:

On Monday, 21 May 2018 11:59:43 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44198673

China has launched a relay satellite to prepare for a lunar rover mission planned for later in the year.

China is very ambitious?


The tragic thing is they are more less replicating things that were done what, 55 YEARS ago? We should have colonized the Moon AND Mars y now, visited all the other planets, and have a ship headed to a near star system. But lack of interest by an increasingly science-illiterate public and increasing weak-willed politicians means the space program is back at square one, wondering slack-jawed if they can cobble together another Saturn V for a return trip to the Moon and keeping that worthless money-pit the ISS in orbit.

 




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