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My Floaters Are Gone. Long Live My Floaters?
I have floaters and have had them for a few years now. Mine look like
multi-celled single-strand organisms and move in and out of my field of view. I can see them at high powers when using a telescope but not all the time. I did some research on the net an found this site: http://www.eyefloaters.com/index.cfm Apparently, The FDA considers the procedure a non-risk issue. Take Care, JAS "John Steinberg" wrote in message ... Floaters: A Personal Memoir By. J.E. Steinberg, non-MD Copyright 2003 All Rights Reversed I must have been about five-years old when I first became aware of my floaters. We had a chandelier in our foyer and if I squinted my eyes |
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My Floaters Are Gone. Long Live My Floaters?
"John Steinberg" wrote Anyway and more seriously, any patients of Dr. Karickhoff lurking here? No, but I was a patient of Dr. Hackenbush. Signed, Whirlaway |
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My Floaters Are Gone. Long Live My Floaters?
Chris L Peterson wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:36:17 -0400, Richard Brenz wrote: Floaters never just "go away"... I don't think this is universally true. Floaters have different sources, and their lifetime in the eye varies. Floaters caused by polymerization or crystallization of vitreous have low mobility, and may indeed remain in the posterior chamber for a lifetime. But cellular debris has higher mobility, and can be transported through or around the vitreous body to the anterior chamber over a period of months to years. Material smaller than about 10u can cross the trabecular network and leave the eye. As you know, small hemorrhages into the vitreous can be cleared from the eye over time, and large hemorrhages can result in glaucoma because erythrocytes/ghost cells interfere with the trabecular meshwork. And of course, floaters with some mobility may be carried out of the optical path in the eye. That's pretty close to "going away." Even if the material is still in the eye, I don't know if you could really call it a floater if it can't be seen. More often than not I see floaters in nearly 100% of my adult patients and they do not complain of them. Guess it depends on what your definition of "is" is. "Floaters" as an ophthalmological phenomenon however usually specifically refers to aggregates of denatured proteins. Vitreous hemorrhages and the like are separate entities, but unfortunately too many EyeM.D.'s refer to the symptoms as floaters. Ghost cell glaucoma is fortunately rare and an intact zonular system(the microfibrils that attach to the capsule that contains the lens) prevents anything much larger than single cells from entering the anterior chamber, to gain access to the trabeculum. Often floaters become sequestered within the vitreous, out of the line of vision, but they nonetheless remain within the eye. the brain selectively perceives that they are no longer there.(Consider the physiologic blind spot where the optic nerve enters the back of the globe...nobody sees their blind spot but it is nonetheless there.) That isn't my own experience. I've had a few irritating floaters for many years, and I've never gotten used to them. The low-level cortical response to movement is very strong- I don't see how you can get used to something that produces the appearance of movement, especially across the fovea. I certainly won't tell you what you experience. Each patient's mileage may vary. I routinely tell patients that there is a good chance that within a year, they will not notice the floaters, except under conditions that cause miosis(small pupils). For me, it's a truism 90% of the time. _________________________________________________ Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com |
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My Floaters Are Gone. Long Live My Floaters?
Skip
As far as your eyes go.. Go see a qualifed practioner about this. Youre eyesight is too valuable to speculate on. You may have already done so. Rich On 9 Jul 2003 12:43:12 -0700, (Skip Freeman) wrote: For the past 6 months or so, I've had a couple of thin, thread-like floaters in each eye but today I can't seem to find them. Do these things ever disappear of their own accord via some sort of disintegration process? If they come back, can an eye doctor safely remove them? -Skip |
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My Floaters Are Gone. Long Live My Floaters?
On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 13:41:00 -0700, lal_truckee
wrote: Skip Freeman wrote, re floaters: If they come back, can an eye doctor safely remove them? I have a bunch of permanent floaters from a tiny fall off a cliff awhile back, while doing some wild abandon skiing. When I asked, the eye doc told me: No, they can't be removed. I assume he really meant: No, you can't afford whatever procedure is used to remove them. No, I think he meant they can't be removed. At least through surgery. I suppose they could drain each eye, fliter them out and replace the fluid. But this type of procedure has, to my knowledge, never been attempted. |
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"Chris L Peterson" wrote in message
... That isn't my own experience. I've had a few irritating floaters for many years, and I've never gotten used to them. The low-level cortical response to movement is very strong- I don't see how you can get used to something that produces the appearance of movement, especially across the fovea. Since I mostly do planet observing at 1mm exit pupil, I have been quite aware of my floaters for years. In my observing eye (left) one round floater has become either more compact or closer to the retina. It used to appear like a single celled organism in a microscope, now it is JUST the right size and darkness to look like a dark spot on Jupiter about the size of a Jovian moon shadow. It also is quite noticeable in the daytime because of (as you noted) the motion. I have been known to swat at "invisible" insects flying near my head. :-) I have (mostly) trained myself to wait for the SOUND of a flying insect before I start flailing. Clear Skies, Craig in Tampa |
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Sounds great for those with the type(s) of floater(s) that can be
reduced/eliminated by the procedure, but results appear to be quite variable and procedure not applicable for many. Check out "Floater Types-Success" in the menu on the left side of the web page that you hyperlinked. Richard "Jose Suro" wrote in message om... I have floaters and have had them for a few years now. Mine look like multi-celled single-strand organisms and move in and out of my field of view. I can see them at high powers when using a telescope but not all the time. I did some research on the net an found this site: http://www.eyefloaters.com/index.cfm Apparently, The FDA considers the procedure a non-risk issue. Take Care, JAS "John Steinberg" wrote in message ... Floaters: A Personal Memoir By. J.E. Steinberg, non-MD Copyright 2003 All Rights Reversed I must have been about five-years old when I first became aware of my floaters. We had a chandelier in our foyer and if I squinted my eyes |
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My Floaters Are Gone. Long Live My Floaters?
"fred ma" wrote I'm not an astronomer, but I just want to say, thank goodness for the humour in this thread. Aqueous or vitreous? Howard Lester |
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Howard Lester wrote:
"fred ma" wrote I'm not an astronomer, but I just want to say, thank goodness for the humour in this thread. Aqueous or vitreous? Howard Lester How does one discern? I didn't realize that the treatment prospects were different for different kinds of floaters. The only two treatments are frought with nasty risks. The specialist I saw doesn't think it's a good idea to change the eyeball fluid, or the explode the floaters with a laser. Fred |
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"Fred Ma" wrote Howard Lester wrote: "fred ma" wrote I'm not an astronomer, but I just want to say, thank goodness for the humour in this thread. Aqueous or vitreous? Howard Lester How does one discern? I didn't realize that the treatment prospects were different for different kinds of floaters. The only two treatments are frought with nasty risks. The specialist I saw doesn't think it's a good idea to change the eyeball fluid, or the explode the floaters with a laser. Fred What I wrote was a joke... The liquids within the eye are known as "humors." You had set me up perfectly for that one. Howard Lester |
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